I'm not trying to pile on but this is just wild. To see PSU be this impenetrable ship for a decade and then have this much happen in weeks is unreal.no bueno
To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.I'm not trying to pile on but this is just wild. To see PSU be this impenetrable ship for a decade and then have this much happen in weeks is unreal.
I just don’t think you can connect the NWLC to the college program only when it is positive.To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is Brooks. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it but he is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
Think they’ll blame this one on DT too?To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
Sure I can. i graduate from PSU. 18 months later I light up drug testing.I just don’t think you can connect the NWLC to the college program only when it is positive.
Stuff like this happens probably more often than not, in D1 programs. A few years ago Daton “accidentally” took contraband. It may or may not have been intentional, Daton is a good egg, but I was always a bit doubtful of his explanation.To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
I mean apples to oranges. Doping is something directly related to what he does as a member of the NWLC.Sure I can. i graduate from OSU. 18 months later I kill someone. I learned that behavior at OSU.
I would. 🤣Think they’ll blame this one on DT too?
I will never blame the program unless I see habitual transgressions. I don't see that here any more than in Fix's situation.Stuff like this happens probably more often than not, in D1 programs. A few years ago Daton “accidentally” took contraband. It may or may not have been intentional, Daton is a good egg, but I was always a bit doubtful of his explanation.
Well, I will say, it's been a significantly off year in Happy Valley in terms of what is normal. What does NLWC stand for?To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
You can't infer that. If you could, then what does it say about John Smith with Fix and Klimara? I don't blame Smith and OSU for those positives. Why blame PSU and NLWC for this? Stop the automatic attack on PSU. It goes both ways. I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation. Grown ass men need to take responsibility for mistakes.I mean apples to oranges. Doping is something directly related to what he does as a member of the NWLC.
I’m not saying Cael forced him to dope. My point is so much has happened with the program lately it seems pretty clear Cael isn’t exactly running a tight ship.
Well, I will say, it's been a significantly off year in Happy Valley in terms of what is normal. What does NLWC stand for?
I absolutely think it reflected poorly on John and our program when Fix popped. That doesn’t mean Fix wasn’t a grown man who was ultimately responsible.You can't infer that. If you could, then what does it say about John Smith with Fix and Klimara? I don't blame Smith and OSU for those positives. Why blame PSU and NLWC for this? Stop the automatic attack on PSU. It goes both ways. I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation. Grown ass men need to take responsibility for mistakes.
Lack of institutional control is what happenedI absolutely think it reflected poorly on John and our program when Fix popped. That doesn’t mean Fix wasn’t a grown man who was ultimately responsible.
In the past few weeks the NLWC has had an athlete charged with a sex crime, another accused of sex crimes and theft and another popped for a banned substance. You think it’s out of line for non-PSU homers to wonder what the hell is going on up there? If that happened at OSU I would be extremely worried.
As far as I know, CS has never been under contract with NLWC. Nor has he been accused of any sex crimes. Where are the police reports? Innuendo is not good enough. I'm willing to meet you in the middle but not if you're going to troll me. Let's just agree that CS has issues. To what extent no one knows.I absolutely think it reflected poorly on John and our program when Fix popped. That doesn’t mean Fix wasn’t a grown man who was ultimately responsible.
In the past few weeks the NLWC has had an athlete charged with a sex crime, another accused of sex crimes and theft and another popped for a banned substance. You think it’s out of line for non-PSU homers to wonder what the hell is going on up there? If that happened at OSU I would be extremely worried.
Have I distanced from CS? It's his fault. Have I distanced from AB? It's his fault. I don't give a crap about an Ohio State guy meeting a prostitute. I'm not his wife.lol. This is not on PSU. This is squarely on NLWC though, where he is still a member. Last year it was a missed "Prescription". This year it is not. PSU fans somehow distancing from Snyder, Carter, and Brooks suddenly after they did what they did reeks of hypocrisy.
Come on man. It’s all the same program just like it is here. Cael is in charge of it all.As far as I know, CS has never been under contract with NLWC. Nor has he been accused of any sex crimes. Where are the police reports? Innuendo is not good enough. I'm willing to meet you in the middle but not if you're going to troll me. Let's just agree that CS has issues. To what extent no one knows.
Not Listening to Wrestling CoachWell, I will say, it's been a significantly off year in Happy Valley in terms of what is normal. What does NLWC stand for?
I wouldn’t take it too personal. PSU has been nothing but a united front for so many years and now we are seeing cracks in the facade. Of course we are going to have fun going to have fun at their expense. Just we have fun at Iowa’s expense…every day. They’re just too easy of a target.You can't infer that. If you could, then what does it say about John Smith with Fix and Klimara? I don't blame Smith and OSU for those positives. Why blame PSU and NLWC for this? Stop the automatic attack on PSU. It goes both ways. I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation. Grown ass men need to take responsibility for mistakes.
I don't take it personally at all. AB needs to own his misdeeds. Same as anyone else.I wouldn’t take it too personal. PSU has been nothing but a united front for so many years and now we are seeing cracks in the facade. Of course we are going to have fun going to have fun at their expense. Just we have fun at Iowa’s expense…every day. They’re just too easy of a target.
As far as you know isn't very far. Do you know what accused means? Do you know what innuendo means? Those are rhetorical questions (you'll probably need to look up what rhetorical means as well).As far as I know, CS has never been under contract with NLWC. Nor has he been accused of any sex crimes. Where are the police reports? Innuendo is not good enough. I'm willing to meet you in the middle but not if you're going to troll me. Let's just agree that CS has issues. To what extent no one knows.
I’m uneducated so I have no idea what those words mean. Rather than troll, please try to have meaningful conversations. I’ve been open and honest in my posts today. Try your best to be Oklahoma nice in return! Okay?As far as you know isn't very far. Do you know what accused means? Do you know what innuendo means? Those are rhetorical questions (you'll probably need to look up what rhetorical means as well).
Haha, nope! No fight!![]()
If you want a fight Chase, you go through him first. Make his day!!!
And the NCAA hasn't tested for PED in 5 years now.To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
Exactly the RTC guys are in the room daily and train with the college guys. When they win gold it's WE. And when a problem arises it's well hes really not part of Penn stI just don’t think you can connect the NWLC to the college program only when it is positive.
You were not honest. There were credible accusations made. You said CS wasn't accused of sex crimes. That's a lie. There were specific claims made by multiple sources. You said it was only innuendo. That's a lie.I’m uneducated so I have no idea what those words mean. Rather than troll, please try to have meaningful conversations. I’ve been open and honest in my posts today. Try your best to be Oklahoma nice in return! Okay?