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Brooks fails drug test

I'm not trying to pile on but this is just wild. To see PSU be this impenetrable ship for a decade and then have this much happen in weeks is unreal.
To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
 
To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is Brooks. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it but he is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
I just don’t think you can connect the NWLC to the college program only when it is positive.
 
To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
Think they’ll blame this one on DT too?
 
I just don’t think you can connect the NWLC to the college program only when it is positive.
Sure I can. i graduate from PSU. 18 months later I light up drug testing.

Is that an acceptable thought process to blame it on PSU? No of course not. Judge a person by the content of their character and not by their associations.
 
To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
Stuff like this happens probably more often than not, in D1 programs. A few years ago Daton “accidentally” took contraband. It may or may not have been intentional, Daton is a good egg, but I was always a bit doubtful of his explanation.
 
Sure I can. i graduate from OSU. 18 months later I kill someone. I learned that behavior at OSU.
I mean apples to oranges. Doping is something directly related to what he does as a member of the NWLC.

I’m not saying Cael forced him to dope. My point is so much has happened with the program lately it seems pretty clear Cael isn’t exactly running a tight ship.
 
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Stuff like this happens probably more often than not, in D1 programs. A few years ago Daton “accidentally” took contraband. It may or may not have been intentional, Daton is a good egg, but I was always a bit doubtful of his explanation.
I will never blame the program unless I see habitual transgressions. I don't see that here any more than in Fix's situation.
 
To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
Well, I will say, it's been a significantly off year in Happy Valley in terms of what is normal. What does NLWC stand for?
 
I mean apples to oranges. Doping is something directly related to what he does as a member of the NWLC.

I’m not saying Cael forced him to dope. My point is so much has happened with the program lately it seems pretty clear Cael isn’t exactly running a tight ship.
You can't infer that. If you could, then what does it say about John Smith with Fix and Klimara? I don't blame Smith and OSU for those positives. Why blame PSU and NLWC for this? Stop the automatic attack on PSU. It goes both ways. I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation. Grown ass men need to take responsibility for mistakes.
 
Well, I will say, it's been a significantly off year in Happy Valley in terms of what is normal. What does NLWC stand for?
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If you want a fight Chase, you go through him first. Make his day!!!
 
You can't infer that. If you could, then what does it say about John Smith with Fix and Klimara? I don't blame Smith and OSU for those positives. Why blame PSU and NLWC for this? Stop the automatic attack on PSU. It goes both ways. I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation. Grown ass men need to take responsibility for mistakes.
I absolutely think it reflected poorly on John and our program when Fix popped. That doesn’t mean Fix wasn’t a grown man who was ultimately responsible.

In the past few weeks the NLWC has had an athlete charged with a sex crime, another accused of sex crimes and theft and another popped for a banned substance. You think it’s out of line for non-PSU homers to wonder what the hell is going on up there? If that happened at OSU I would be extremely worried.
 
I absolutely think it reflected poorly on John and our program when Fix popped. That doesn’t mean Fix wasn’t a grown man who was ultimately responsible.

In the past few weeks the NLWC has had an athlete charged with a sex crime, another accused of sex crimes and theft and another popped for a banned substance. You think it’s out of line for non-PSU homers to wonder what the hell is going on up there? If that happened at OSU I would be extremely worried.
Lack of institutional control is what happened
 
lol. This is not on PSU. This is squarely on NLWC though, where he is still a member. Last year it was a missed "Prescription". This year it is not. PSU fans somehow distancing from Snyder, Carter, and Brooks suddenly after they did what they did reeks of hypocrisy.
 
I absolutely think it reflected poorly on John and our program when Fix popped. That doesn’t mean Fix wasn’t a grown man who was ultimately responsible.

In the past few weeks the NLWC has had an athlete charged with a sex crime, another accused of sex crimes and theft and another popped for a banned substance. You think it’s out of line for non-PSU homers to wonder what the hell is going on up there? If that happened at OSU I would be extremely worried.
As far as I know, CS has never been under contract with NLWC. Nor has he been accused of any sex crimes. Where are the police reports? Innuendo is not good enough. I'm willing to meet you in the middle but not if you're going to troll me. Let's just agree that CS has issues. To what extent no one knows.
 
lol. This is not on PSU. This is squarely on NLWC though, where he is still a member. Last year it was a missed "Prescription". This year it is not. PSU fans somehow distancing from Snyder, Carter, and Brooks suddenly after they did what they did reeks of hypocrisy.
Have I distanced from CS? It's his fault. Have I distanced from AB? It's his fault. I don't give a crap about an Ohio State guy meeting a prostitute. I'm not his wife.
 
As far as I know, CS has never been under contract with NLWC. Nor has he been accused of any sex crimes. Where are the police reports? Innuendo is not good enough. I'm willing to meet you in the middle but not if you're going to troll me. Let's just agree that CS has issues. To what extent no one knows.
Come on man. It’s all the same program just like it is here. Cael is in charge of it all.

I’m not trolling in the slightest. I think I’m being fairly rational and straight forward. You have to remember this is not a PSU board. I don’t think Cael walks on water.

If as much happened to our program in the past month I would be extremely concerned with the leadership.

I’m not sure what I’m saying that is so out of bounds and offensive. It’s a terrible look. Is it more than that? No idea but from anyone not a PSU homer it looks really, really bad.
 
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You can't infer that. If you could, then what does it say about John Smith with Fix and Klimara? I don't blame Smith and OSU for those positives. Why blame PSU and NLWC for this? Stop the automatic attack on PSU. It goes both ways. I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation. Grown ass men need to take responsibility for mistakes.
I wouldn’t take it too personal. PSU has been nothing but a united front for so many years and now we are seeing cracks in the facade. Of course we are going to have fun going to have fun at their expense. Just we have fun at Iowa’s expense…every day. They’re just too easy of a target.
 
I view AB popping positive the same way I view Daton popping positive. It’s a f-up that falls on him. These guys are grown men responsible for what goes in their bodies. I’m not gonna throw the whole program under the bus until it’s proven to be a systematic problem. Is this timing great for PSU? Not at all. But AB juicing doesn’t correlate at all to the Bartlett-Starocci stuff imo.

I have a lot more thoughts on Daton’s situation that is outside this topic, but that’s for another thread.
 
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I wouldn’t take it too personal. PSU has been nothing but a united front for so many years and now we are seeing cracks in the facade. Of course we are going to have fun going to have fun at their expense. Just we have fun at Iowa’s expense…every day. They’re just too easy of a target.
I don't take it personally at all. AB needs to own his misdeeds. Same as anyone else.
 
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As far as I know, CS has never been under contract with NLWC. Nor has he been accused of any sex crimes. Where are the police reports? Innuendo is not good enough. I'm willing to meet you in the middle but not if you're going to troll me. Let's just agree that CS has issues. To what extent no one knows.
As far as you know isn't very far. Do you know what accused means? Do you know what innuendo means? Those are rhetorical questions (you'll probably need to look up what rhetorical means as well).
 
As far as you know isn't very far. Do you know what accused means? Do you know what innuendo means? Those are rhetorical questions (you'll probably need to look up what rhetorical means as well).
I’m uneducated so I have no idea what those words mean. Rather than troll, please try to have meaningful conversations. I’ve been open and honest in my posts today. Try your best to be Oklahoma nice in return! Okay?
 
To me, and I know this board may disagree, but this is not PSU. This is a Brooks issue. Once is a mistake. Twice is a trend. I cannot condone it. He is 16 months removed from PSU and he is a grown ass man. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions. I say that as an American. Own it and do better.
And the NCAA hasn't tested for PED in 5 years now.
 
I’m uneducated so I have no idea what those words mean. Rather than troll, please try to have meaningful conversations. I’ve been open and honest in my posts today. Try your best to be Oklahoma nice in return! Okay?
You were not honest. There were credible accusations made. You said CS wasn't accused of sex crimes. That's a lie. There were specific claims made by multiple sources. You said it was only innuendo. That's a lie.
 
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