It’s all about nationals which is what they have preached. See you all in Philly!
Big12 Tournament
- Thread starter Chasingthirty-five
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That was about the worst way to win a conference title you could draw up, but I am not going to overreact to one bad day. We still won and have everything in front of us.
Cam will surprise in nationals. Dean Wasn’t the true top seed but he showed he belongs. Surber will perform better at nationals.
All I got is WOW to this comment.
I'm a huge Dean Hamiti fan and I would not have called him the favorite against KOT. You seem like you wandered over here from the football board. We get those guys on our board as well.
Don’t disagree with some of what you said. As far as “everyone wrestling tight” - thought Plott let it rip against Keck. Probably the best effort of their 6 matches.
If Hamiti was tight, so was O’Toole.
Frustrating, yes. Solid efforts by both OSU wrestlers against All-Timers.
Good, Bad, and Ugly…this was an important next step in the process.
It is essential that OSU compete for and win the Big 12 every year. As OSU has become less competitive in the past few years, it has shown in this Tournament as well as Nationals. In some ways, an ugly win is a big positive. There have been plenty of ugly losses. Good to win despite adversity.
It’s also important to understand that the Big 12 has come a long, long way. There are some All-Timers at certain weights. Seeing a bunch of 2nd Place finishes - that is what OSU is right now. It feels like they got the most out of this group. It looked like Hamiti had KOT for a moment. That would have been over the top. All that said, the Roster will turn over and improve from where it is. Look for OSU to have 2 guys at almost every weight next year who can go. Likely a highly ranked youngster along with a coveted portal transfer.
As annoying as he can be, you have to give it to Schwab. What he has done with that program has been remarkable. Should be the COTY IMO.
It is essential that OSU compete for and win the Big 12 every year. As OSU has become less competitive in the past few years, it has shown in this Tournament as well as Nationals. In some ways, an ugly win is a big positive. There have been plenty of ugly losses. Good to win despite adversity.
It’s also important to understand that the Big 12 has come a long, long way. There are some All-Timers at certain weights. Seeing a bunch of 2nd Place finishes - that is what OSU is right now. It feels like they got the most out of this group. It looked like Hamiti had KOT for a moment. That would have been over the top. All that said, the Roster will turn over and improve from where it is. Look for OSU to have 2 guys at almost every weight next year who can go. Likely a highly ranked youngster along with a coveted portal transfer.
As annoying as he can be, you have to give it to Schwab. What he has done with that program has been remarkable. Should be the COTY IMO.
Gilman was the first one I noticed when I saw this photo as well lol.
They wrestled really well. They also got the benifit of 3 forfeits in the consolidations Sunday morning.
Score would not of been as close without those.
Wrestling seed:reality differential
Troy +4.5
Reece -11.5
Tagen +6
Travis +13
Fish -1.5
Amine -1
Hamiti +0.5
Plott +4
Surber -1.5
Wyatt +6
I know it’s obvious but getting bonus was pretty huge for this team and by the way DT talks it was his main priority for the tournament.
Really bummed for Reece. He is a top 33 wrestler and I think he misses out because of this. Hope I’m wrong and he squeaks in.
Troy +4.5
Reece -11.5
Tagen +6
Travis +13
Fish -1.5
Amine -1
Hamiti +0.5
Plott +4
Surber -1.5
Wyatt +6
I know it’s obvious but getting bonus was pretty huge for this team and by the way DT talks it was his main priority for the tournament.
Really bummed for Reece. He is a top 33 wrestler and I think he misses out because of this. Hope I’m wrong and he squeaks in.
I see the usual idiots are out.
This tournament was won because of the bonus points put up on the first 3 sessions. Not because of 1 ISU wrestler winning a finals match. I believe there were at least 20 bonus points wins including Fish with the pin yesterday morning.
Everyone is disappointed with the Finals, but the amount of vitriol against the wrestlers and coaches from keyboard warriors is pretty pathetic.
This tournament was won because of the bonus points put up on the first 3 sessions. Not because of 1 ISU wrestler winning a finals match. I believe there were at least 20 bonus points wins including Fish with the pin yesterday morning.
Everyone is disappointed with the Finals, but the amount of vitriol against the wrestlers and coaches from keyboard warriors is pretty pathetic.
The guy he lost to is a two time national champ. Give me a break. Toss up all the way.
Some people are going to feel really stupid about their post when they sober up this morning.
I can't think of more than three other guys who are a tougher out than KOT. MM, CStar, and Gable. Maybe AJ.
Stupid things were said when emotions were high. Let’s move on! We are all Cowboys here. Except you 1985
125 - Spratley 2nd
133 - Witcraft No Placing
141 - Jamison 2nd
149 - Travis 4th
157 - Fish 4th
165 - Amine 5th
174 - Hamiti 2nd
184 - Plott 2nd
197 - Surber 2nd
HWT - Hendrickson 1st
Face value, we did pretty well. We really need to figure out 133. Biggest disappointment compared to hype is probably Amine imo.
Disappoiting stretch in the finals where I think we gift wrapped some wins for the other teams (125, 141, 197) but overall, we were right there....Just have to finish. All 3 opportunities we were in a position to win and just couldn't get it done.
133 - Witcraft No Placing
141 - Jamison 2nd
149 - Travis 4th
157 - Fish 4th
165 - Amine 5th
174 - Hamiti 2nd
184 - Plott 2nd
197 - Surber 2nd
HWT - Hendrickson 1st
Face value, we did pretty well. We really need to figure out 133. Biggest disappointment compared to hype is probably Amine imo.
Disappoiting stretch in the finals where I think we gift wrapped some wins for the other teams (125, 141, 197) but overall, we were right there....Just have to finish. All 3 opportunities we were in a position to win and just couldn't get it done.
Hey, I supported John Wayne against the indians even though I'm part indian. So show some respect my way.
This could be the dumbest statement i have read on this board since i came on here in 2003.
Asking questions to Board members who truly know and follow OSU wrestling. What was going on in Taylor's mind after Surber? IMO his face and body language showed what the critics mentioned last night and this morning. Or maybe he was reflecting on the feelings of disappointment for Plott and Surber?
As usual with the OSU fanbase we overreact to everything bad. But some of what people are saying seems possible. Thoughts?
One more thing....I was reflecting on my thoughts when they announced Wyatt's transfer pre-season. Boy did those thoughts come true last night. That might have been an all-time gutsy moment in Cowboy Wrestling. I hope big time that was not the last time we see Wyatt on the mat as a Cowboy.
As usual with the OSU fanbase we overreact to everything bad. But some of what people are saying seems possible. Thoughts?
One more thing....I was reflecting on my thoughts when they announced Wyatt's transfer pre-season. Boy did those thoughts come true last night. That might have been an all-time gutsy moment in Cowboy Wrestling. I hope big time that was not the last time we see Wyatt on the mat as a Cowboy.
I get the disappointment going 1-5 in the finals..but those who are complaining did you watch the whole tournament? Most the finals matches went exactly how I thought they would. I was nervous on the team title going into Sunday night..Only thing I can see to complain is 133 was very disappointing also feel bad for Reece. A lot of brackets fell apart #3 guy in the nation frost needs an at large bid at that weight. We had 6 young men in the finals be proud of that don’t act like OU football fans please.
Trust me. NONE of your guys are the "smaller" guy. Other than Spratley. But that's because Strickenberger is a generational weight cutter.
I know it might not mean anything, but hopefully the big smile on Hendrickson face is a sign that he’s doing okay.
His body language and posture after the Surber match were stunning. I think he was just thinking what everyone else was and he can't do that. And ultimately he is responsible for the failures.
His mat side coaching was abysmal this tournament. The Hamiti loss is Example A. Fish's disasters B and C. Plus many more. How many matches were lost by not wrestling strategically? Those loses are on Coach Taylor.
