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Oh, it's never a conspiracy, is it? It's always a lie that the rest of the world runs with and a smart, courageous wingnut figures out that "the compliant media" isn't singing the right tune. Whether it's birtherism, global warming, obamacare.... it's always a conspiracy with the you people.
Care to post some right wing predictions about what Obamacare would do to our country? Here are a few:
[12/13/2011]
How about some science?Sys would you care to post all the hysterical rants from libs about MMGW?
Here is another quote:
"I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."
Sys additionally had all the waivers and favors not been granted and the POS bill enforced as passed, guarantee you those prognostications would be way closer to true than not. The idiot prez is just trying to get out of office without this being stapled to his worthless ass as he and his canine companion leave the WH for the last time.
@syskatine answer the question with out deflecting you terrible debater.Here is another quote:
"I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."
My premiums have almost doubled and my out of pocket costs have tripled since Obama
Care passed. Please give us ONE example of what anything the President promised about COSTS is true.
The typical deflection that has nothing to do with the actual subject. When are we actually going to opertae under Obamacare? Or are we going to continue with ad hoc waivers of the most onerous parts ad infinitum?
Here is another quote:
"I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."
It's off point and irrelevant unless it's a fox news or RNC talking point, apparently. Any debate that doesn't revolve around conservative talking points is irrelevant.
Yes, it's totally relevant, because it impeaches the complaining party. You guys are alarmist, afraid, and exaggerate at nearly every turn. We can't believe your fables and panicky theories because the people that point out the deficiencies have showed they have no credibility -- they nitpick everything and blow it out of proportion. Like the above posts prove, conservatives are alarmist and exaggerate Obamacare to the point they're radicalized and don't have a credible voice.
Which "onerous" part are you speaking of?
Then why'd they delay it?"Onerous" is a stretch, Glove. Health insurance isn't exactly some exotic employee benefit. I have a hard time feeling for employers like Wal Mart that let the taxpayers support their employees. Now THAT is onerous. I wish ALL employers had to provide health insurance. I have for years, and I'm a little guy.
I was replying to Sys. I'm in agreement with you. Just giving an example of how the President lied.I was trying to point out that the President promised something that did not come true as a reply to Sys' comments about the many conservative comments that turned out to be embelishments.
Then why'd they delay it?
Congress didn't exempt themselves. They found out after the vote and finally reading the bill that Congress was not exempted. So, since they couldn't arbitrarily not comply, they decided to let the taxpayers pay for 75% of its costs. They still have the special wings at Walter Reed and Bethesda Naval Hospital set aside for members of Congress and other top government officials.Why did Congress fight so hard to exempt itself from ACA, even thoguht the reg. says they must choose a plan within it?
Why did Congress fight so hard to exempt itself from ACA, even thoguht the reg. says they must choose a plan within it?
This is incorrect. Your first 2 sentences are correct. The rest is wrong. They wrote up a phony application for an exemption stating the Congress employs < 50 people and therfore shoudl be expempt, which the Admin. rubber-stamped. They have the same insurance plan as before.Congress didn't exempt themselves. They found out after the vote and finally reading the bill that Congress was not exempted. So, since they couldn't arbitrarily not comply, they decided to let the taxpayers pay for 75% of its costs. They still have the special wings at Walter Reed and Bethesda Naval Hospital set aside for members of Congress and other top government officials.
I was correct throughout. Here's an article from 2013 stating exactly how the Congress was going to get their subsidy and how they did.This is incorrect. Your first 2 sentences are correct. The rest is wrong. They wrote up a phony application for an exemption stating the Congress employs < 50 people and therfore shoudl be expempt, which the Admin. rubber-stamped. They have the same insurance plan as before.
Okay, this is good.... link please? So what response do you want, why we don't have universal health care coverage?
Good luck with that.You like pointing out where the R's projections haven't come to pass. The response that I am looking for is your acknowledgement that the President's promises didn't come to pass either.
You like pointing out where the R's projections haven't come to pass. The response that I am looking for is your acknowledgement that the President's promises didn't come to pass either.