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Any still wanting to question the wisdom of the electoral college?

The electoral college is a firewall against state corruption and voter fraud. Anyone wanting to abolish it doesn't believe in a United States as a republic.

So when San Fran starts promoting non-citizens having the ability to vote; that underscores the need to keep them in check via the electoral college.
 
A.) Why should the City of San Francisco not have the right to allow them to vote in local elections if they choose to do so?

B.) How does their decision have anything at all to do with the electoral college and federal elections?

You think San Fran will properly police this and make sure they do not vote in federal elections? I believe what @Ostatedchi is saying here is that the EC is that protection since we clearly cannot trust cities to govern themselves (ever heard of sanctuary cities?).
 
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San Fran already has 114% of its electorate registered.

This should help a lot in cleaning up the process.
 
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A.) Why should the City of San Francisco not have the right to allow them to vote in local elections if they choose to do so?

B.) How does their decision have anything at all to do with the electoral college and federal elections?
If you don't think that those people who are now registered to vote in a local election will not also then proceed to vote in federal elections then you are a bigger fool then I already think you are.
 
A.) Why should the City of San Francisco not have the right to allow them to vote in local elections if they choose to do so?

In theory you are correct. I don't dispute that at all. In fact I agree with it. However, you damn well know that it won't be managed in a way that prevents them from voting in state or federal elections.
 
In theory you are correct. I don't dispute that at all. In fact I agree with it. However, you damn well know that it won't be managed in a way that prevents them from voting in state or federal elections.

And you know this how? Ultimately, neither of us know anything about the system they are using, the technology available to them, etc.

You are jumping to conclusions that fit the narrative you want the situation to fit.

You might be right, and I can understand being concerned about the situation. But, I would suggest that more research into the topic is indicated before concluding that this is the end of the world as we know it.
 
And you know this how? Ultimately, neither of us know anything about the system they are using, the technology available to them, etc.

You are jumping to conclusions that fit the narrative you want the situation to fit.

You might be right, and I can understand being concerned about the situation. But, I would suggest that more research into the topic is indicated before concluding that this is the end of the world as we know it.

I guess time will prove it out. But I'm confident in my prediction that this will only encourage and enable more non-citizens to vote in subsequent federal elections.

Hence, the beauty of the electoral college. It allows California to screw up their elections to whatever degree they want. But they can only influence so much the presidential election.
 
I was born and reared in the Rio Grande Valley. Voter fraud down there is common, well known and has been known for decades. If it weren't for the infamous Ballot Box 13 in Freer, TX, LBJ wouldn't have been a Senator. George Parr, the Duke of Duval, made sure that he was.

That is a great, great bit of history. Reads like a movie script, but is completely true.
 
I was born and reared in the Rio Grande Valley. Voter fraud down there is common, well known and has been known for decades. If it weren't for the infamous Ballot Box 13 in Freer, TX, LBJ wouldn't have been a Senator. George Parr, the Duke of Duval, made sure that he was.

Do you think there is a chance that it might be significantly more difficult to pull something like that off today than it was in 1948?

That might not be the best evidence that voter fraud is common in the Rio Grande Valley today.
 
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I was born and reared in the Rio Grande Valley. Voter fraud down there is common, well known and has been known for decades. If it weren't for the infamous Ballot Box 13 in Freer, TX, LBJ wouldn't have been a Senator. George Parr, the Duke of Duval, made sure that he was.

Back in the last century before the internet and smart phones created zombies, there was Taylor's Bookstore on NW Highway, and Northpark. I bought a book that detailed this whole sordid mess, fabulous read, but don't remember the name nor author, or for that matter, what I had for lunch yesterday. Just trust me, it was a political machine: too bad cankles didn't read it as a how-to book.:D
 
Back in the last century before the internet and smart phones created zombies, there was Taylor's Bookstore on NW Highway, and Northpark. I bought a book that detailed this whole sordid mess, fabulous read, but don't remember the name nor author, or for that matter, what I had for lunch yesterday. Just trust me, it was a political machine: too bad cankles didn't read it she ws a how-to book.:D
I knew one of Parr's granddaughters many many years ago. We had some interesting conversations talking about S Texas.
 
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