A look at what our government has become (and it ain’t pretty):
https://www.fff.org/2019/05/10/the-worlds-dictatress/
https://www.fff.org/2019/05/10/the-worlds-dictatress/
America: A World Class Bully
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Will this be the same song and dance you do with the border? Where you cry for open borders but refuse to comment on 45 million Latinos spilling across? What should we do with Iran dan? What would happen with a blank check for hamas and a nuclear Iran? Spell it out for us.
The hand wringing is comical at this point.
America saved the world in WWII. There is no doubt Britain would have bargained for peace if they didn’t think they had a chance with America. Ever since then we have been sticking our finger in the dyke and been an imperial power minus the land grabs. The best part of being an imperial power. We have tried to stop the next big thing from hurting us and it’s draining, it’s exhausting and we’ve meddled more than 26 fake twitter accounts on numerous occasions. But now, what do we do? Just let the Muslims with their fatalistic theocracy run amok? Just let china rip us off? Let North Korea get nuclear weapons?
There’s no right answer here anymore but to pretend that we can let despots and cavemen go unchecked or we lose the moral high ground is innacurate in my opinion. We’re the greatest most powerful nation to ever exist and we are going to let these ankle biter countries and open border liberals cause us to be taken down like gullivers travels.
There’s no right answer here anymore but to pretend that we can let despots and cavemen go unchecked or we lose the moral high ground is innacurate in my opinion. We’re the greatest most powerful nation to ever exist and we are going to let these ankle biter countries and open border liberals cause us to be taken down like gullivers travels.
HSH is quite right.
Better to be the school yard bully than the submissive beta in a silly attempt to find just the right temperament to appease all of the doves around the world.
Better to be the school yard bully than the submissive beta in a silly attempt to find just the right temperament to appease all of the doves around the world.
I also have a story, Dan. A very close friend of mine, since childhood, who was with a a Fotune 20 company was called into HR years ago. When he arrived there was an FBI agent present, also, asking him bout his female Chinese intern. Long story short, she was a Chinese communist government spy plant and was deported.
Yeah, the company I work for just this past December had 1.5 Billion dollars in tech research stolen by a Chinese national. I guess according to Dan that's 'free trade'.
Totally agree with you why cant other countries trade with Iran because of their fight with the US
we were warned not to import cng from Iran even though it is the cheapest situation for us.
ostatedchi in his statement of belief said he didn't want america to be the world's policemenm hell that is what you are.
Don’t house bin laden under government control while taking our money and we will let you make some more of your own decisions.
You are totally free to import and trade with Iran. Just don't expect any American money to flow your way when you do. That's not being the world's police.
Barack Obama did bomb the shit out of Pakistan by the afghan border. But he was a person of color and not trump so no big deal.
Pakistan is free to trade with Iran all it wants. Where are you getting that Pakistan can't do business with Iran?
I wish the world was so afraid of our overwhelming power and ability to use it, that everyone just decided to behave and we never had wars.
The ounce of prevention is having so much of a deterrent in our military ability that everyone would
follow treaties and peacekeeping efforts by the UN.
This would be tremendously expensive and is why our partners in the UN need step up. I never want us to fight a single war, but if we do go to war it is so overwhelming it is over so fast civilian lives are
impacted in the least way possible. If we go in, it needs to be all in and over fast, these lengthy wars is total BS. I am for building up our military not to go to war, but to have such an overwhelming deterrent factor that no one wants to jack with us.
This is why I do not see our so called military strength as being respected, having nukes is one thing, being able to have overwhelming force without nukes is an entirely different matter. We will probably never be in that position, China could create the economic and manufacturing ability combined with a marching army to possibly obtain it. This is why China is a huge threat.
Nukes is not really an option unless you want to end the world or bring mass destruction on yourself.
The ounce of prevention is having so much of a deterrent in our military ability that everyone would
follow treaties and peacekeeping efforts by the UN.
This would be tremendously expensive and is why our partners in the UN need step up. I never want us to fight a single war, but if we do go to war it is so overwhelming it is over so fast civilian lives are
impacted in the least way possible. If we go in, it needs to be all in and over fast, these lengthy wars is total BS. I am for building up our military not to go to war, but to have such an overwhelming deterrent factor that no one wants to jack with us.
This is why I do not see our so called military strength as being respected, having nukes is one thing, being able to have overwhelming force without nukes is an entirely different matter. We will probably never be in that position, China could create the economic and manufacturing ability combined with a marching army to possibly obtain it. This is why China is a huge threat.
Nukes is not really an option unless you want to end the world or bring mass destruction on yourself.
Sorry we dont get US govt aid anymore.There are some US aid projects going on I think.
No we cannot trade with Iran, you have to realize what a bully your govt can be.
As far as Obama bombing through drones, yes it did bring a lot of civilian casualities
but I couldn't decide which side I was on,not because Obama was a man of color but because I hated the terrorist so much.They mostly bombed south wazirstan it was not like they were bombing Karachi.
I will not go into the saga of bin laden.
True - when the schoolyard is full of opportunistic fascist assholes.
There’s a reason Pakistan doesnt get our handouts anymore. Instead of pouring it into an inherently corrupt government based on bribery trump said to pound sand. He cancelled 300 million. But Pakistan still has its hand out and receives money from other countries because it can’t feed and educate itself. World’s police or world’s foster parents?
I agree with you as far as the corrupt govt is concerned.During cold war US literally controlled the govt. and encouraged corruption to keep the leaders under control.
As far as Trump is concerned he thinks China is paying the tariffs. Lets keep the conversation intelligent.
Doesn't Pakistan make a ton of cash from their lucrative poppy industry?
There ya go, opiate derivatives. Someone is making gazillions. Fend for yourselves.
So it’s Americas fault that you people are corrupt? How many centuries will you need to get that corrected?
We dont have poppy that is afghanistan. Yes a lot of poppy flew through Pakistan(atleast it used to) but much less now.
Please read about Iran conta affair.
You mean the most heroin addicted country in the world?
https://thediplomat.com/2014/03/pakistan-the-most-heroin-addicted-country-in-the-world/
Well, so the whole country is getting high on its own stash and has little left to export.
Well, that's PERFECT.
They need food aid. They have nukes, enough drugs to kill every hair band from the 80’s but they can’t feed or educate themselves. Sounds like a similar set up in western California.
Yes probably,even kids in school have been addicted to heroin.The drug problem is serious in Pakistan besides heroin a lot of the other drugs are very popular among
young people. Drug problem is international.
Corruption is every where most of the people can be corrupted if the money bag
is big enough.
Look at Manafort.
I am glad you are comparing us to california,I wish it was true.
I have read about meth labs in oklahoma, so even God's country has a problems.
Abul Hassan, we're looking at the world through a prism of conservative common sense.
If it offends you, it is inadvertent.
So, there's that.
If it offends you, it is inadvertent.
So, there's that.
It is true. Rich people stepping over the poor/drug addicted on their way to lecture others. Billions of dollars swirling around with an abysmal underclass.
Maybe you didn’t read that headline. The most heroin addicted country IN THE WORLD. Yes Oklahoma has meth labs but they aren’t the most heroin addicted country in the world.
You have a real problem with comparisons I’ve noticed.
Sure you can. The US hasn't closed your borders, closed your ports, or closed your airports. The US isn't going to bomb Pakistan for doing business with Iran. The US can't physically stop Pakistan from trading with Iran.
Look here drug problem is serious,heroin maybe the worst but the problem
is seious,
I have gone through it with one of my children (not heroin) and also with a niece(also heroin) thank god both of them are clean now.
Oklahoma may not be the highest in heroin addiction but it has a problem.
Drugs are not limited to poor people every class is affected.
Yeah, my peeps deal with lifes BS with alcohol.
We'd get chirossis of the liver in our 50s, croak out and die and we loved it!
That is why stopped drinking in 2006.Yeah, my peeps deal with lifes BS with alcohol.
We'd get chirossis of the liver in our 50s, croak out and die and we loved it!
I'm just trying to bring some levity to the party here.
Take me seriously at your own peril.
Do you like cheddar biscuits?
Damn, Pakistan must be worse than I thought. No Red Lobsters and no cheddar biscuits. Sucks to be you.
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