Ali totally bought into Nation of Islam rascist ideology
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And the dodging and deflecting continues.....
You are NEVER EVER EVER going to straightforwardly state whether you agree with the bolder proposition, are you?
Nothing but dodge, deflect, and evade from here on out from you is my prediction.
You are NEVER EVER EVER going to straightforwardly state whether you agree with the bolder proposition, are you?
Nothing but dodge, deflect, and evade from here on out from you is my prediction.
Then you are arguing against a strawman of your own creation.
No one in this threa as said all Muslims are extremists or that we should engage in blanket discrimination against all Muslims.
And where did I post that these statements have been posted on this thread?
Nice attempt at creating a strawman of your own, lol.
You you're posting
An incredibly self evident and obvious statement in a context free vacuum not at all in response to the numerous individual you have dealt with in this thread.
That makes sense.
"Those non-citizens not having stepped on American soil or been given some legal status by the US are NOT protected by the 1st Amendment. If you want to be even more particular, they are not protected by the 1st Amendment with regards to the decision whether or not to let them on American soil or in the granting of status.
We don't need BigOSUFan to clarify anything for you to definitively state whether or not you agree with the bolded proposition of mine.
So what say you?"
You're going to continue attempting to ignore this and not answer in favor of dodge, deflect, and avoid...aren't you.
Yes, I am posting lol.
This was the original post that I made which resulted in an ongoing discussion....
Clearly, a couple of posters had an issue with this. They then had an issue with my claim that all religions have extremists. All I was doing was repeating the same claims over and over again that I originally made. There were no strawmen created.
I've given you my answer. Sorry you can't accept it.
Time for you to sit down counselor.
You mean moderate forces upon Christianity . . . a moderation of Christianity?
No you haven't.
Quote your where you answered whether or not you agree with the accuracy and legal correctness of the bolded statement....you can't....because you haven't.
Do you agree or disagree with this proposition.....
"Those non-citizens not having stepped on American soil or been given some legal status by the US are NOT protected by the 1st Amendment."?
At no point have you stated your position on that proposition one way or the other.
All you have done is dodge, deflect, ignore, and avoid that very precise and explicit request for your position on that very precise and succinct legal proposition.
Agree
Or
Disagree
Which is it?
I agree. We should encourage and support moderate Islamic forces. We don't do this though by grouping all Muslims together, advocating Muslim bans, and engaging in other activity that offends moderate Muslims while playing into the hands of Muslim extremists. We have to engage and promote the moderates
Radical Islamism has to be defeated by moderate Islamism (which is what we want to see). This should be what we work to support.
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lol, you try so hard.
I've given you my answer. Maybe if you would take the time to respond to my answer instead of dismissing it because it isn't what you want to accept, we could continue the discussion.
If not, I guess you will just keep repeating yourself ad nauseam.
When you said "the evolution of Christianity," did you mean by that the moderation of Christianity?
Now it's dodge, deflect, and deny reality.
Quote it.
Here is you chance to prove me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Where did you state whether or not you agree with the proposition I have presented to you repeatedly?
It does.....not.....exist.
It should be fairly simple to do....my proposition is post #88 in this thread....you've had 23 or so posts since then. Show me in which one you affirmed or denied the legal correctness of the statement.
It does not exist.
Annnnny other insight into this graph? Anything at all?
You really think it was going to happen overnight? How long did it take for nations that were predominately Christian to moderate?
Not to mention that going backwards on our part by electing leaders like Trump sure doesn't help either.
Cute. It would be a lot more interesting to talking to you if you would try to be intellectually honest instead of dogmatically correct.
I am being intellectually honest. The graph shows what I have been claiming since the first page of this thread. Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims.
Perhaps if you wouldn't try so hard to disagree with me you might find we actually agree on some things!
I'll give it up to myself for recognizing early that there are exactly zero words that correctly end this sentence.
Good boy....we are oh so very close now.
And where in this post (your #89).....
Do you state whether or not the proposition I posed in my #88....I'll post it again....
Those non-citizens not having stepped on American soil or been given some legal status by the US are NOT protected by the 1st Amendment.
Is or isn't a correct and accurate legal statement?
The answer is.....NOWHERE.
Here...
Again, it isn't what you wanted so you just can't bring yourself to accept it and respond. That is on you though.
I don't think it is going as good as it could. There are numerous reasons for this.
But it is the way forward. And hopefully more of our leaders (especially on the right) will come to better understand this as we move forward.
Lord.....you really ARE completely out of touch with reality.
None.....zero....zilch....nada....bupkis.....of that states whether or not my proposition in #88 is an accurate and correct legal statement. It's all reference back to interpretation of BigOSUFan's statement.
