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[HighStickHarry]

When all air travel is abandoned by liberals or outlawed i’ll get on board.

Until then, if you don’t believe, I don’t believe it.

David Allen flies all around the world, works for a company that has several things that heat up our world and boasts that the promise to plant trees in the future makes the effects negligible. There is no angle that allows that to make sense.

 

[HighStickHarry]

@syskatine ill step out of character if you will. How does it make sense that obama flew a couple hundred people from dc to Hawaii for a vacation? Just give me a level headed argument how he thinks burning that much fossil fuels for a vacation is justified in relation to our planet being in peril? He did this multiple times.

I beleive there were three planes that carried multiple cars/suv’s.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

@syskatine ill step out of character if you will. How does it make sense that obama flew a couple hundred people from dc to Hawaii for a vacation? Just give me a level headed argument how he thinks burning that much fossil fuels for a vacation is justified in relation to our planet being in peril? He did this multiple times.

I beleive there were three planes that carried multiple cars/suv’s.

How many times have we been through this? You've made this point x1000, as if it proves... something? Obama generates carbon so there must not be carbon-influenced climate change? Right?

 

[jkosu]

@syskatineI beleive there were three planes that carried multiple cars/suv’s.

The last trip Obama took to Florida involved both VC-25’s (“Air Force One” and the backup plane) and two C-17’s to move the motorcade vehicles...which landed at another airport and drove 40 miles to Palm Beach, apparently. Probably a few other aircraft involved but I don’t know the specifics. Trump’s flights to Palm Beach are probably similar, to be fair.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

The last trip Obama took to Florida involved both VC-25’s (“Air Force One” and the backup plane) and two C-17’s to move the motorcade vehicles...which landed at another airport and drove 40 miles to Palm Beach, apparently. Probably a few other aircraft involved but I don’t know the specifics. Trump’s flights to Palm Beach are probably similar, to be fair.

Maybe that's a fair criticism. Frankly it's a mirror image to my abortion argument, i.e. if we really are watching a genocide perpetrated on a daily basis, why are people on here kibitzing about football?

 

[HighStickHarry]

How many times have we been through this? You've made this point x1000, as if it proves... something? Obama generates carbon so there must not be carbon-influenced climate change? Right?

You can’t do it. It’s not that he generates carbon. It’s that he burns excessive amounts of fossil fuels for extravagant pointless reasons. He makes you people look like fools. I’ll make this point every time you or anyone tries to say man is hurting the planet. 1000x and the 10000x until you admit that the powers that be do not really believe what they have trained you to parrot.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Maybe that's a fair criticism. Frankly it's a mirror image to my abortion argument, i.e. if we really are watching a genocide perpetrated on a daily basis, why are people on here kibitzing about football?

A fair criticism? It’s a blatant contradiction.

Do you know the math behind how many gallons of jet fuel it takes to get a c-17 full of Escalades and limos off the ground?

 

[HighStickHarry]

IF man is ruining the planet (it absolutely might be true) Barack obama doesn’t really beleive it to be true. The analysis of other liberals is the same.

 

[Alpha Poke]

IF man is ruining the planet (it absolutely might be true) Barack obama doesn’t really beleive it to be true. The analysis of other liberals is the same.

Or, he believes it and just doesn’t think the rules apply to him. Either way, he’s a liar or a hypocrite.

 

[JimmyBob]

he’s a liar or a hypocrite.

I vote both.

 

[Medic007]

IF man is ruining the planet (it absolutely might be true) Barack obama doesn’t really beleive it to be true. The analysis of other liberals is the same.

This is all pointless yammering. Individual contributions don't matter. Our board climate experts have told us that. It's the business and industry that government can regulate with ridiculous costs and "goals" that contribute to global cooling global warming climate change.

Example...

If everyone on the planet voluntarily gave up driving cars today, it will not impact the planet positively.

If governments banned all driving of cars today, the impending doom of the planet would be delayed.

The only way the planet can be saved is by government action. The science is settled. 97% of scientists agree with me, including that guy who studies the effects of human breast milk on baby llamas.

 

[wyomingosualum]

Maybe that's a fair criticism. Frankly it's a mirror image to my abortion argument, i.e. if we really are watching a genocide perpetrated on a daily basis, why are people on here kibitzing about football?

How about this. You go down to the airport and stop people from flying in order to save the planet and all human life and I’ll go stop an abortion. Use whatever means necessary.

You go first.

 

[HighStickHarry]

There are only 52 weeks in a year.

Hammill added that Pelosi already flies more on commercial planes because “all political and personal travel must be commercial.” In 2009, Pelosi used military planes for 38 flights to and from San Francisco, and took 71 commercial flights, according to her office.


https://www.politico.com/story/2010/11/pelosi-to-fly-commercial-045525

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

But... dead babies? Nobody addresses that parallel thought process?

 

[wyomingosualum]

But... dead babies? Nobody addresses that parallel thought process?

Dead planet?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Dead planet?

Yeah, I don't get it. If the climate change is caused by carbon, you'd think our civil leaders that acknowledge and claim that would try to both personally set an example, and implement policies that reflect the urgency. Right? I agree with that. I wish Obama would have done more on that (and other stuff, too).

So. where does this leave us with the abortion debate? A genocide is occurring and.... circulate a Petition? Have a rally? I'll bring the casserole? Am I getting this right? Sure is a lot of silence ITT about that after I brought it up.

Notice Wharry TOTALLY ignored it. Why do you think that is?

 

[Alpha Poke]

Doesn't the SC appointment address this in the eyes of libs?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Doesn't the SC appointment address this in the eyes of libs?

Quite the solution after 46 years of genocide, and the states are still free to continue murdering babies? Pretty gentle solution seems to me if the operating assumption is we're murdering babies.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Quite the solution after 46 years of genocide, and the states are still free to continue murdering babies? Pretty gentle solution seems to me if the operating assumption is we're murdering babies.

I think the term you're looking for is eugenics.

Just another way libs show they care about minoritys.

 

[wyomingosualum]

Yeah, I don't get it. If the climate change is caused by carbon, you'd think our civil leaders that acknowledge and claim that would try to both personally set an example, and implement policies that reflect the urgency. Right? I agree with that. I wish Obama would have done more on that (and other stuff, too).

So. where does this leave us with the abortion debate? A genocide is occurring and.... circulate a Petition? Have a rally? I'll bring the casserole? Am I getting this right? Sure is a lot of silence ITT about that after I brought it up.

Notice Wharry TOTALLY ignored it. Why do you think that is?

You’re talking to by and large what is the law and order crowd here. Every now and again, an Eric Rudolph comes along and blows up an abortion clinic. Or somebody comes along and murders an abortion doctor. Personally, I’m not willing to face the death penalty in order to stop the madness. And I’m not willing to abandon my wife and kids in order to accomplish the goal.

Similarly, I don’t believe I should be forced to have to buy a government approved health insurance policy. I think the speed limit in my county should be higher. Blah blah blah. But here we are.

My contribution to getting the change I want has been to show up at every election for the last 38 years and vote for candidates who agree with my point of view. I’m a fan of the rule of law. And it is beginning to look like my patience is paying off. We'll see.

 

[Bitter Creek]

Hell yeah! More temp records broke this summer!

Is there ever a summer when a temperature record isn't set somewhere?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

You’re talking to by and large what is the law and order crowd here. Every now and again, an Eric Rudolph comes along and blows up an abortion clinic. Or somebody comes along and murders an abortion doctor. Personally, I’m not willing to face the death penalty in order to stop the madness. And I’m not willing to abandon my wife and kids in order to accomplish the goal.

Similarly, I don’t believe I should be forced to have to buy a government approved health insurance policy. I think the speed limit in my county should be higher. Blah blah blah. But here we are.

My contribution to getting the change I want has been to show up at every election for the last 38 years and vote for candidates who agree with my point of view. I’m a fan of the rule of law. And it is beginning to look like my patience is paying off. We'll see.

FWIW, I'm kind of like you. I'm not selling my truck any time soon or cashing in my frequent flier miles, but I also think carbon is changing our weather for the worse. If you'd like me to make a list of rationalizations for BOTH sides, just let me know. At the end of the day, "patience paying off" after 46 years is a helluva solution to babies being slaughtered, assuming the right wing narrative is to be accepted.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

I think the term you're looking for is eugenics.

Just another way libs show they care about minoritys.

And cons. Don't forget cons, patiently waiting for 47 years while all these babies are murdered.

It's almost like... maybe they don't really believe it? And they worship a guy whose legacy is martyrdom for his cause. But martyrdom for a higher calling must yield to "law and order" in this age, I guess. Imagine what they say at the pearly gates when these christians show up: "Well, you allowed the deaths of millions of children but you supported law and order, so you can come in."

 

[Alpha Poke]

Thats f'n stupid.

 

[Bitter Creek]

Quite the solution after 46 years of genocide, and the states are still free to continue murdering babies? Pretty gentle solution seems to me if the operating assumption is we're murdering babies.

Name one thing a pro-life person can do to stop an abortion from occurring.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Thats f'n stupid.

I wanted to make sure even you understood.

Name one thing a pro-life person can do to stop an abortion from occurring.

Civil disobedeience. March with pictures of aborted fetuses in front of a clinic. Shoot the Dr. Bribe the patient. Kidnap the patient until the baby is delivered. Harass the Dr. Chain themselves to the Dr's exam table. Fake a pregnancy and sabotage the equipment. Sue the Dr's until they quit. Social media dox the Dr. Cut the electricity to the kill floor.

There's 10 that are more effective than waiting 47 years for votes to kick in. I mean, we're talking murder, right? Genocide?

I'm surprised how easily the climate change deniers use the same argumemt and then get doe eyed like, "What, me?!" when the same logic is used against them. Or in wharry's case.... poof. Just disappear.

 

[Bitter Creek]

I wanted to make sure even you understood.



Civil disobedeience. March with pictures of aborted fetuses in front of a clinic. Shoot the Dr. Bribe the patient. Kidnap the patient until the baby is delivered. Harass the Dr. Chain themselves to the Dr's exam table. Fake a pregnancy and sabotage the equipment. Sue the Dr's until they quit. Social media dox the Dr. Cut the electricity to the kill floor.

Great list. When are you getting started? I will be looking for awesome results.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Great list. When are you getting started? I will be looking for awesome results.

You betcha. I'm glad you ardent pro-lifers have finally gotten to hear some options in lieu of eating casseroles and sitting on your ass while bitching about people's lack of commitment to stop climate change.

 

[AC_Exotic]

You betcha. I'm glad you ardent pro-lifers have finally gotten to hear some options in lieu of eating casseroles and sitting on your ass while bitching about people's lack of commitment to stop climate change.

Fan fic.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Fan fic.

The one thing that won't happen itt: An intellectually honest response. You and Afl tweet, bitter just wallows around and Wharry..... "poof." I'm still curious why the "He's obviously not committed" logic doesn't cut both ways. After all, I'm sure Obama votes for environmentally friendly candidates.

 

[Bitter Creek]

You betcha. I'm glad you ardent pro-lifers have finally gotten to hear some options in lieu of eating casseroles and sitting on your ass while bitching about people's lack of commitment to stop climate change.

Yes, because causing all of the mayhem that you suggested won't get someone federal offense charge that costs them up to and potentially including their life, where as using a clothes line and riding a bicycle will.

Great comparative job counselor.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Yes, because causing all of the mayhem that you suggested won't get someone federal offense charge that costs them up to and potentially including their life, where as using a clothes line and riding a bicycle will.

Great comparative job counselor.

How contemporary conservative of you -- why, we can't save the lives of children, it might imperil me personally." INNOCENT DEFENSELSS BABIES and you can't do a little jail time to stop the carnage? Quite the moral code. You having some jail time trumps saving babies lives?

 

[Medic007]

I wanted to make sure even you understood.



Civil disobedeience. March with pictures of aborted fetuses in front of a clinic. Shoot the Dr. Bribe the patient. Kidnap the patient until the baby is delivered. Harass the Dr. Chain themselves to the Dr's exam table. Fake a pregnancy and sabotage the equipment. Sue the Dr's until they quit. Social media dox the Dr. Cut the electricity to the kill floor.

There's 10 that are more effective than waiting 47 years for votes to kick in. I mean, we're talking murder, right? Genocide?

I'm surprised how easily the climate change deniers use the same argumemt and then get doe eyed like, "What, me?!" when the same logic is used against them. Or in wharry's case.... poof. Just disappear.

You're great at hyperbole but really bad at comparisons. Let me help you with the appropriate comparisons, rookie.

Why aren't you climate change disciples murdering oil executives? Why aren't you blowing up refineries? Why aren't you murdering everyone who drives cars that aren't fuel efficient or electric? Why aren't you killing coal miners? Why aren't you blowing up power plants? Why aren't you shooting down private jets? I see Chesapeake and Devon still have ridiculous campuses in OKC. I mean, we are talking the destruction of the entire planet and the deaths of at least several billion people here. You just gonna try to vote in people who claim they want to save the planet or are you going to actually do something about it?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

You're great at hyperbole but really bad at comparisons. Let me help you with the appropriate comparisons, rookie.

Why aren't you climate change disciples murdering oil executives? Why aren't you blowing up refineries? Why aren't you murdering everyone who drives cars that aren't fuel efficient or electric? Why aren't you killing coal miners? Why aren't you blowing up power plants? Why aren't you shooting down private jets? I see Chesapeake and Devon still have ridiculous campuses in OKC. I mean, we are talking the destruction of the entire planet and the deaths of at least several billion people here. You just gonna try to vote in people who claim they want to save the planet or are you going to actually do something about it?

I think you need to read the thread and my previous comments, troll.

 

[Medic007]

I think you need to read the thread and my previous comments, troll.

So you just eat pancakes and floppy bacon and watch while the entire population is being murdered by climate change? No need to get off your fat ass to actually do something? You afraid of getting dirty or breaking nails?

 

[07pilt]

So you just eat pancakes and floppy bacon and watch while the entire population is being murdered by climate change? No need to get off your fat ass to actually do something? You afraid of getting dirty or breaking nails?

His point was this type of argument coming from a pro-lifer who isn't bombing abortion clinics rings hollow.

 

[Medic007]

His point was this type of argument coming from a pro-lifer who isn't bombing abortion clinics rings hollow.

So bombing abortion clinics because you believe abortion is murder and driving a fuel efficient vehicle because you think man-made climate change is real are comparable? Thanks for making my point for me.

 

[Headhunter]

I've got some extra carbon credits for sale. I over estimated my need since I bought the hybrid and installed the solar panels, wind turbines.

Sys, David, Clint, JD how many can I put you down for? $10,000? I'll give you guys a 10% discount from what Al sells his for.

Good deal I know you want to save the planet.

Have you ever seen me all in on Gore or “The Inconvenient Truth”? I’m not sure I’ve even commented on man made global warming/climate change.

GTFOH calling me out on this topic and trying to lump me in with Sys, Dave, and Toon , you schmoe.

A lawyer bitching about being lumped into a group. Priceless.

 

[AC_Exotic]

The one thing that won't happen itt: An intellectually honest response. You and Afl tweet, bitter just wallows around and Wharry..... "poof." I'm still curious why the "He's obviously not committed" logic doesn't cut both ways. After all, I'm sure Obama votes for environmentally friendly candidates.

You want honest answers?

I've been involved in the pro-life movement for over 30 years. I've been involved in marches, protests, calling of government officials (which is a waste of time GOP or Dem), giving money to pro-life causes, and currently financially support crisis pregnancy centers, which counsel women considering abortion regarding other options, which includes the best option for the child, adoption.

I will not break the law by bombing an abortion clinic or assassinating an abortion doctor. Two wrongs never make a right.

So yes, your assertion is fan fic.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

the powers that be do not really believe what they have trained you to parrot.

Most underrated statement on this board in ages.