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A note to this board on the eve of the election...

The left base is way farther away from the people who swing these elections than the rights.

They need to realize that Biden’s 81 million was ballot harvesting that took advantage of Covid. Even if you are dumb enough to believe no laws were broken, at minimum their suppprt won’t vote unless you request a ballot for them, bring the ballot to them, hold their hand and then deliver it to the polling station.

Until they get voting by smart phone in swing states, that’s a big barrier for them to reach people that do not feel inclined to do it on their own.

Anyone who says no woman can win, try running a good one and then let’s decide. Trump would have beat the old rich white man in 2020 without zuckerburgs $450 million data and ballot harvesting operation.
 
I think all of this will require the Dems to do an entire soul search for why they lost "convincingly". At least, I hope so:

For the past eight years, the Republican Party has been having an honest conversation about the real things that ail us: inflation, the hollowing out of rural America, the rise of China, the housing crisis, the opioid crisis, the chaos at our southern border; free speech; and the decline of American power.

Has the conversation been frenetic and, at times, weird and wrongheaded? Yes.

More to the point, it is what we care about, what the average American voter wants to talk about.

And the Democrats?

The Democrats haven’t been talking about any of these things. The reason that the culture wars are so profoundly offensive to so many voters is not that they’re racist or transphobic. It’s that voters want to know why reparations or gender fluidity is more critical than rescuing millions of Americans who have seen their way of life dissolve in the face of globalization, automation, and shifting labor markets.

The Democrats preferred to tell a self-congratulatory tale about how we arrived at this juncture: In 2016, the fascists took over the White House; in 2020, the party of democracy and justice took it back; over the past four years, that party has steered us back to normalcy; and, if they didn’t win in 2024, the fascists would come back, and this time it would be worse than ever. This time, the fascists really would lock up their political foes and abolish the Constitution, and it really would be the last election.

Except that, there’s very little, if anything, about the Democratic Party that is normal in 2024. It’s not just that the working man's party is now the party of the elite billionaires from Davos. Shedding its loyalty to the working and middle classes, the party has transformed into a corporatized, single-cell organism. It no longer appears to represent a true coalition of interest groups—the way parties usually do. It is made up of platform surfers building their social media audiences on the backs of the very people they claim to bleed for: marginalized peoples, birthing people, Gazans, whoever.

They didn’t lose because they didn’t spend enough money. They didn’t lose because they failed to trot out enough celebrity influencers. They lost because their self-flattery consumed them, their sense of self-importance. They should have spent the past eight years learning from the Republicans’ candid, if flawed, conversation about the plight of America. But they insisted on talking to themselves about what made them feel morally superior.

They governed the way they swore their enemies would: shutting down free expression with their war on “disinformation,” politicizing the justice system.

Worst of all, They did not appreciate the glaring dishonesty at the heart of it all. They seemed to think that Americans wouldn’t mind that they had pretended Joe Biden was "sharp as a tack”, that they orchestrated a behind-the-scenes switcheroo, that the party that portrayed itself as the nation’s answer to fascism nominated its standard-bearer without consulting a single voter (can't get more fascist than that). They just figured that no one would mind, that most Americans would feel the way they felt—happy that they finally had a viable candidate to challenge Donald Trump.

It was insulting, and it was deeply dishonest. And a large majority of Americans looked right through it and saw is for what it really was.

The only way out of this cul-de-sac—the only way for Democrats to win once again—will be for the party to tune out MSNBC and the campus and the progressive identitarians and return, once again, to the same Americans it has made a habit of disparaging.

I would love to see the usual left suspects break this down and tell you where you are wrong.
 
The moral supremacy by the left has been out in the open for years. From tearing down Trump signs, to lawfare, to assassin’s, to this OP. They think they are soooo morally superior that anything they do is justified.
 
The left base is way farther away from the people who swing these elections than the rights.

They need to realize that Biden’s 81 million was ballot harvesting that took advantage of Covid. Even if you are dumb enough to believe no laws were broken, at minimum their suppprt won’t vote unless you request a ballot for them, bring the ballot to them, hold their hand and then deliver it to the polling station.

Until they get voting by smart phone in swing states, that’s a big barrier for them to reach people that do not feel inclined to do it on their own.

Anyone who says no woman can win, try running a good one and then let’s decide. Trump would have beat the old rich white man in 2020 without zuckerburgs $450 million data and ballot harvesting operation.
Zuckerberg spent only $400 million buying drop boxes stuffed with Brandon ballots in the 2020 election. Chapter 7, Zuckerberg Should Be in Jail is good reading in Rigged by Mollie Hemingway.
 
I think all of this will require the Dems to do an entire soul search for why they lost "convincingly". At least, I hope so:

For the past eight years, the Republican Party has been having an honest conversation about the real things that ail us: inflation, the hollowing out of rural America, the rise of China, the housing crisis, the opioid crisis, the chaos at our southern border; free speech; and the decline of American power.

Has the conversation been frenetic and, at times, weird and wrongheaded? Yes.

More to the point, it is what we care about, what the average American voter wants to talk about.

And the Democrats?

The Democrats haven’t been talking about any of these things. The reason that the culture wars are so profoundly offensive to so many voters is not that they’re racist or transphobic. It’s that voters want to know why reparations or gender fluidity is more critical than rescuing millions of Americans who have seen their way of life dissolve in the face of globalization, automation, and shifting labor markets.

The Democrats preferred to tell a self-congratulatory tale about how we arrived at this juncture: In 2016, the fascists took over the White House; in 2020, the party of democracy and justice took it back; over the past four years, that party has steered us back to normalcy; and, if they didn’t win in 2024, the fascists would come back, and this time it would be worse than ever. This time, the fascists really would lock up their political foes and abolish the Constitution, and it really would be the last election.

Except that, there’s very little, if anything, about the Democratic Party that is normal in 2024. It’s not just that the working man's party is now the party of the elite billionaires from Davos. Shedding its loyalty to the working and middle classes, the party has transformed into a corporatized, single-cell organism. It no longer appears to represent a true coalition of interest groups—the way parties usually do. It is made up of platform surfers building their social media audiences on the backs of the very people they claim to bleed for: marginalized peoples, birthing people, Gazans, whoever.

They didn’t lose because they didn’t spend enough money. They didn’t lose because they failed to trot out enough celebrity influencers. They lost because their self-flattery consumed them, their sense of self-importance. They should have spent the past eight years learning from the Republicans’ candid, if flawed, conversation about the plight of America. But they insisted on talking to themselves about what made them feel morally superior.

They governed the way they swore their enemies would: shutting down free expression with their war on “disinformation,” politicizing the justice system.

Worst of all, They did not appreciate the glaring dishonesty at the heart of it all. They seemed to think that Americans wouldn’t mind that they had pretended Joe Biden was "sharp as a tack”, that they orchestrated a behind-the-scenes switcheroo, that the party that portrayed itself as the nation’s answer to fascism nominated its standard-bearer without consulting a single voter (can't get more fascist than that). They just figured that no one would mind, that most Americans would feel the way they felt—happy that they finally had a viable candidate to challenge Donald Trump.

It was insulting, and it was deeply dishonest. And a large majority of Americans looked right through it and saw is for what it really was.

The only way out of this cul-de-sac—the only way for Democrats to win once again—will be for the party to tune out MSNBC and the campus and the progressive identitarians and return, once again, to the same Americans it has made a habit of disparaging.
The majority of Dems are not capable of this. The modern Dem party cannot be reformed (see Gabbard and RFK jr.).
 
I think all of this will require the Dems to do an entire soul search for why they lost "convincingly". At least, I hope so:

For the past eight years, the Republican Party has been having an honest conversation about the real things that ail us: inflation, the hollowing out of rural America, the rise of China, the housing crisis, the opioid crisis, the chaos at our southern border; free speech; and the decline of American power.

Has the conversation been frenetic and, at times, weird and wrongheaded? Yes.

More to the point, it is what we care about, what the average American voter wants to talk about.

And the Democrats?

The Democrats haven’t been talking about any of these things. The reason that the culture wars are so profoundly offensive to so many voters is not that they’re racist or transphobic. It’s that voters want to know why reparations or gender fluidity is more critical than rescuing millions of Americans who have seen their way of life dissolve in the face of globalization, automation, and shifting labor markets.

The Democrats preferred to tell a self-congratulatory tale about how we arrived at this juncture: In 2016, the fascists took over the White House; in 2020, the party of democracy and justice took it back; over the past four years, that party has steered us back to normalcy; and, if they didn’t win in 2024, the fascists would come back, and this time it would be worse than ever. This time, the fascists really would lock up their political foes and abolish the Constitution, and it really would be the last election.

Except that, there’s very little, if anything, about the Democratic Party that is normal in 2024. It’s not just that the working man's party is now the party of the elite billionaires from Davos. Shedding its loyalty to the working and middle classes, the party has transformed into a corporatized, single-cell organism. It no longer appears to represent a true coalition of interest groups—the way parties usually do. It is made up of platform surfers building their social media audiences on the backs of the very people they claim to bleed for: marginalized peoples, birthing people, Gazans, whoever.

They didn’t lose because they didn’t spend enough money. They didn’t lose because they failed to trot out enough celebrity influencers. They lost because their self-flattery consumed them, their sense of self-importance. They should have spent the past eight years learning from the Republicans’ candid, if flawed, conversation about the plight of America. But they insisted on talking to themselves about what made them feel morally superior.

They governed the way they swore their enemies would: shutting down free expression with their war on “disinformation,” politicizing the justice system.

Worst of all, They did not appreciate the glaring dishonesty at the heart of it all. They seemed to think that Americans wouldn’t mind that they had pretended Joe Biden was "sharp as a tack”, that they orchestrated a behind-the-scenes switcheroo, that the party that portrayed itself as the nation’s answer to fascism nominated its standard-bearer without consulting a single voter (can't get more fascist than that). They just figured that no one would mind, that most Americans would feel the way they felt—happy that they finally had a viable candidate to challenge Donald Trump.

It was insulting, and it was deeply dishonest. A large majority of Americans looked right through it and saw what it really was.

The only way out of this cul-de-sac—the only way for Democrats to win once again—will be for the party to tune out MSNBC and the campus and the progressive identitarians and return, once again, to the same Americans it has made a habit of disparaging.
My first paragraph above began with my "hope" that Dems would do some soul-searching for why they lost convincingly (Every Single Sector of the Electorate shifted Right). In the first 3 days hence, my hope is shattered. In the first 3 days, the Dem party machine, save Bernie Sanders, doubles down on ignoring the tea leaves.

Joe Scarborough (showing ignorance of the impacts of inflation), Jean-Pierre (it was because of Covid), Ocasio-Cortez (race, sex, xenophobia, and bigotry is the cause), Universities (Georgetown, Harvard, Oregon, Michigan, and Virginia coddling with milk and cookies and cocoa), Joy Anne Reid MSNBC (because she was a woman), The View (cultural resentment against women). But the one that I laughed at the most was a now-deleted tweet by Laura Helmuth, Scientific American, with a rant that apologized to the youngsters (who significantly moved to the right) that her Gen X is F'ing full of fascists (54% of Gen X voted for Trump).

They've yet to do any modicum of self-reflecting.

It appears they won't "get it" until the mid-terms when the Trump Kennedy Musk train will be in full motion of Promises Made Promises Kept.

Post Mortem: I consider myself centrist, despising both the far left and the far right. During the 12 years of Obama and Biden, I often wondered if the electorate would ever get it right. I have to thank the Dems today.

Without their elitist, condescending treatment of anyone outside their gated mansions and their "holier than thou" policies that made them feel morally superior, we might never have given the rank-and-file workers of this nation the power to effect change. They did considerable service to the country without intending to.
 
They gone.

I post on two of these boards and there's not a liberal troll in sight.
Oh there is still plenty of them on the liberal OSU political board (other website). They still don’t get it.

They fail to comprehend that Harris lost due to bad policies and talking down to the working class. They believe it is because American is racist and sexist and don’t care about democracy.
 
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Oh there is still plenty of them on the liberal OSU political board (other website). They still don’t get it.

They fail to comprehend that Harris lost due to bad policies and talking down to the working class. They believe it is because American is racist and sexist and don’t care about democracy.
That place is a scum pit. The famous uber-lib prosecutor posing as a 'no sides guy' is a special kind of stupid, and they've got a bunch of far-left holdovers from orangepower.com who hid behind Snuffy's skirt, while Snuffy the Clown censored conservative information sources and allowed all the freakish left-wing sites as sources.
 
Oh there is still plenty of them on the liberal OSU political board (other website). They still don’t get it.

They fail to comprehend that Harris lost due to bad policies and talking down to the working class. They believe it is because American is racist and sexist and don’t care about democracy.

The ultimate irony that escapes them is that liberal identity politics are inherently racist and sexist because it’s predicated on emphasizing those differences instead of ignoring them.

As for democracy, if they were as learned as they like to remind everyone that they believe they are, they wouldn’t want a true democracy, just as our founders recognized was a problem.
 
That place is a scum pit. The famous uber-lib prosecutor posing as a 'no sides guy' is a special kind of stupid, and they've got a bunch of far-left holdovers from orangepower.com who hid behind Snuffy's skirt, while Snuffy the Clown censored conservative information sources and allowed all the freakish left-wing sites as sources.
It is very far-left. And the uber-lib person you refer to (that also posts on this board) is just not a very smart person. It is obvious he only watches far-left news and never has an independent thought.
But my point is the far-left trolls as still out there —- and still not getting it.
 
Oh there is still plenty of them on the liberal OSU political board (other website). They still don’t get it.

They fail to comprehend that Harris lost due to bad policies and talking down to the working class. They believe it is because American is racist and sexist and don’t care about democracy.
And if they keep this up they’ll lose again.

The MSM and DEI both died this week.
 
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It is very far-left. And the uber-lib person you refer to (that also posts on this board) is just not a very smart person. It is obvious he only watches far-left news and never has an independent thought.
But my point is the far-left trolls as still out there —- and still not getting it.
Good let them not be able to self reflect. I could use an entire decade of republican control of power. Its a reset that's needed.

The better question is how long will it take for ultimate power to ultimately corrupt the Republican Party again? The ticker is ticking. Can Trump get it done? So far he is saying the right things. I need to see it, but that doesn't happen until January.
 
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The ultimate irony that escapes them is that liberal identity politics are inherently racist and sexist because it’s predicated on emphasizing those differences instead of ignoring them.

As for democracy, if they were as learned as they like to remind everyone that they believe they are, they wouldn’t want a true democracy, just as our founders recognized was a problem.
And they have the slow like me who are comfortable with the "racists" and "garbage." Ho! Ho! Ho!

trapped_in_tx is one of many who makes me have so much admiration and respect for the "garbage." Very well said! trapped_in_tx and the rest of the "garbage" gets it. Liberals with their idenity politics don't.
 
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