Totaling almost 40 Billion in annual spending. While I'm sure some maybe even most of this spending is legitimate, I have no doubt a surprising percentage is being abused by federal workers. Should be fairly easy to expose those who are abusing the system.
90 Million Shady Transactions from Over 4 Million Government Credit Cards
- Thread starter 2012Bearcat
- Start date
Totaling almost 40 Billion in annual spending. While I'm sure some maybe even most of this spending is legitimate, I have no doubt a surprising percentage is being abused by federal workers. Should be fairly easy to expose those who are abusing the system.
How is it possible that there are 4 million government credit cards?
I’ve never been a part of an organization where even half of the employees have a company card.
I’ve never been a part of an organization where even half of the employees have a company card.
Member when Chucky smirked and smiled when oil workers lost their jobs? Now she is outraged at Trumps cuts. 🤣🤣🤣
Fat fingers, sorry. The only reason they held it to $40B is that my wife did not have one of those cards. Thank me.
No doubt there is an immense amount of waste in government and we continue to dig ourselves a deeper hole, but I wish people would a LITTLE more compassion for some federal employees. Some agencies most definitely have people who do nothing.
I am a Department of Army Civilian and I don’t rake in $120K+ per year and live on a golf course and waste taxpayer money. When I started in 2016, I made $45K yearly and regularly worked 12 hour days that I wasn’t compensated with OT for. (I know plenty of private sector employees do this, but my point is, there are a lot of hardworking federal employees as well).
I work with teams of soldiers, veterans and wounded warriors every day. I do weekly write ups of my accomplishments and status of all my priority projects to my supervisor and next level supervisor who report directly to our O-6 Commander.
It frustrates me to see some of our hardest working young engineers, who get paid the least and are on their probationary period, worry in the chaos for their job status.
I know private sector employees don’t normally have the job security gov employees do, and I sympathize with that; however, I’d think masses of people aren’t applauding and celebrating the fact that you’ve lost your job with glee and exuberance either. Also, many federal employees generally get paid a lot less to the same job a private sector employee would, you balance that with the insurance benefits and job security.
If I worked in a company in the private sector with 2M plus people and got a mass email on Saturday night with a 48 hour suspense with a threat to my job status (from someone who has been openly hostile to the very existence of my job), I’d start looking elsewhere ASAP.
I am a Department of Army Civilian and I don’t rake in $120K+ per year and live on a golf course and waste taxpayer money. When I started in 2016, I made $45K yearly and regularly worked 12 hour days that I wasn’t compensated with OT for. (I know plenty of private sector employees do this, but my point is, there are a lot of hardworking federal employees as well).
I work with teams of soldiers, veterans and wounded warriors every day. I do weekly write ups of my accomplishments and status of all my priority projects to my supervisor and next level supervisor who report directly to our O-6 Commander.
It frustrates me to see some of our hardest working young engineers, who get paid the least and are on their probationary period, worry in the chaos for their job status.
I know private sector employees don’t normally have the job security gov employees do, and I sympathize with that; however, I’d think masses of people aren’t applauding and celebrating the fact that you’ve lost your job with glee and exuberance either. Also, many federal employees generally get paid a lot less to the same job a private sector employee would, you balance that with the insurance benefits and job security.
If I worked in a company in the private sector with 2M plus people and got a mass email on Saturday night with a 48 hour suspense with a threat to my job status (from someone who has been openly hostile to the very existence of my job), I’d start looking elsewhere ASAP.
Last edited:
What makes government employees think they are untouchable? Most everyone working in the private sector has gone through a change in leadership intent on improvement. I know in my decades of working in the private sector I went through it on several occasions. You either got on board or you were gone, nothing different in this case.
I didn’t say federal employees should be untouchable. Every paid professional should be held accountable for the salary they’re being paid. When I say job security I don’t mean security from their own poor performance. I mean you weigh the pros and cons of a lower salary with lower risk of your company going under
Are you saying you’d be happy if you got laid off and people everywhere were blissful about your loss of a job?
I don’t even disagree with DOGE’s end goal here (and I am conservative) but you can’t tell me if your senior leadership was throwing a party and being condescending while actively brainstorming new ways to fire you, you wouldn’t be thinking “wow what a dick”.
Last edited:
While I'm sure as a government employee you feel leadership is throwing a party and trying to get rid of you that's not what is taking place. What is taking place is leadership is changing the culture of government employment. Change is never comfortable and always messy.
As you admitted there is no doubt there is an immense amount of waste in government and some agencies most definitely have people who do nothing. This will no longer be tolerated and this is what it looks like to get rid of it.
Not trying to be an ass or be negative about the position you and your coworkers find themselves in but remember when people were told by the government to learn to code when government halted projects for political purposes? I didn't see government workers complaining then but now they maybe effected it's condescending? You can't blame people for having the same attitude now as government did then.
I don’t think anything you’ve said is unreasonable, but I certainly thought that “learn to code” was 100% tactless and an outright slap in the face to blue collar workers, whose work is more dangerous and demanding than many of their white collar peers. I don’t know anyone personally who were celebrating the layoffs of coal miners and if anyone WAS celebrating, but complaining now, then that’s very hypocritical.
Last edited:
I don’t like how cavalier Musk has been and Trump’s approach is not ideal, but what they are doing is the right thing to do. I have a lot of clients freaked out right now bc they have government contracts. Same with a nonprofit where I’m the board chair. Hell my firm has a large state contract dependent on fed grants so I’m getting slow paid worse than usual.
I’ve also been a federal regulator and been through this before under Obama.
I’ve also dealt with this in the private sector. I’ve laid off hundreds.
Point is, what you’re going through is normal. It sucks, but it’s life.
If you want to feel some real anxiety go start your own business.
Your first point about the attitude and rhetoric is all I was really trying to say. I don’t think the end goal is problematic at all. The same ends can be achieved with more tactful means and attitudes.
lol I do not plan to start my own business. Work/life balance and time with family and friends is very important to me. I perform much better at work and am able to be there and support my family better if my personal and professional life are in harmony.
Not saying if you own a business you can’t have that, just not the road I want to go down. I want to provide good results at work and work hard so I can enjoy my life, rather than have work be my life.
You make a great point. I think there are two types of personality: the owner mentality and the employee mentality. For most employees the job is what he does so he can live his life away from the job. For most owners the job is his life. There's nothing wrong with either personality, societies need both. But they are different.
Oops!
Them there gubmint' jobs can make you rich.
BIG EXPOSÉ: THEFT ON A MASSIVE SCALE! 160,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES BECAME MILLIONAIRES WHILE AMERICANS SUFFER - AUDIT THEM, JAIL THEM, TAKE BACK WHAT’S OURS! - amg-news.com - American Media Group
BOMBSHELL: 160,000 federal employees are now MILLIONAIRES while YOU suffer! The Biden regime looted America, funneled taxpayer cash into deep-state pockets, and left hardworking Americans to rot under inflation and crushing debt. How did these bureaucratic leeches amass MILLIONS in a system...
amg-news.com
Your professional and personal life’s harmony is more a result of who you are as a human being, not your work.
Oops!
Them there gubmint' jobs can make you rich.
BIG EXPOSÉ: THEFT ON A MASSIVE SCALE! 160,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES BECAME MILLIONAIRES WHILE AMERICANS SUFFER - AUDIT THEM, JAIL THEM, TAKE BACK WHAT’S OURS! - amg-news.com - American Media Group
BOMBSHELL: 160,000 federal employees are now MILLIONAIRES while YOU suffer! The Biden regime looted America, funneled taxpayer cash into deep-state pockets, and left hardworking Americans to rot under inflation and crushing debt. How did these bureaucratic leeches amass MILLIONS in a system...
Is that you Dan? Keep it up man! I hope this thinkin ain't the result of that 25% tariff put on that shit you smoke.
Trump '28
Right that’s a roundabout way of what I’m trying to say. I don’t ever want to be someone whose entire identity is tied up to my job title or the signature block on my email. I take pride in my work for sure, but i take more pride in the most important relationships in my life.
If you can own your own business and keep a grounded perspective and manage your time so that you can devote adequate time to your business and duties as a mom/dad and spouse without running yourself into the ground, then more power to you and I salute you.
Layoffs and firings are always kin to "not in my backyard" mentality. It's great to clean house until it's you. I have had to fire and layoff people before. Even if someone is deserving of the action it should make one sad...you have just turned someone's life upside down. With that said, layoffs and firings are two different things. When I have had to fire, we dotted every I and crossed every T to justify our action. With layoffs, you get rid of the "weak sisters" and sometime, unfortunately, you have to layoff some great employees to achieve financial stability. You have an end goal...it's just how you get there. You don't have to act like a donkey to get there.
What is Musk or Trump doing to act like a Donkey? Telling office workers to come into the office to work? Telling government employees to send an e-mail listing 5 things they did at work? Oh my god the absolute horror. How will these people ever recover?
Was this necessary?
Or this,
The fact that his hand picked department heads are telling their subordinates not to comply tells me they were either not on board or not informed at all that these ultimatums were coming. Presenting your team as a united front is pretty key to not looking like a donkey
Last edited:
I was always told over my many years "shit rolls downhill". Kinda refreshing these days seeing "shit rollin uphill". Never thought I'd see the day.
The "Trump effect". 😁
The "Trump effect". 😁
I know people that work at a VA Hosp. I have heard so much of what goes on there and what doesn't and thats just at one Hosp. If you knew how many lazy employees they have and what goes on it would piss you off that our Veterans have so many people there that just don't give a shit. Its also lazy managers that just don't give a damn that are making around 200 grand a year. In just one department there are usually 2 to 3 employees that do the work while the other 6 do nothing and said managers let it happen. Talk to some people that work at one and I bet you will hear the same stories. Our Vets deserve better.
Was this necessary?
Or this,
The fact that his hand picked department heads are telling their subordinates not to comply tells me they were either not on board or not informed at all that these ultimatums were coming. Presenting your team as a united front is pretty key to not looking like a donkey
Sure the roll out could be better but at the same time nothing either have said is untruthful. The government is full of waste, fraud and abuse and much of it by the very employees bitching.
I've been retired for 12 years now but I can't imagine ever throwing a fit over being told I needed to come back to the office. I can't imagine throwing a fit over my bosses asking me to tell them what I did in a day. Who the hell do these employees think they are? Do what you are told or lose your job, simple as that.
Again, how it was handled. I agree that going back to the office and listing 5 accomplishments is no big deal in and of itself.
I received an email asking me to list 5 accomplishments from last week, ok - no problem, I do something like that every week anyway in my status reports. But then we get the mass confusion because I get orders from my chain of command to not reply and supervisors everywhere scrambling all over during the weekend and still ongoing to ensure that no sensitive information is sent (even if unclassified). That also is a waste of taxpayer money. So will we get in trouble for disobeying our chain of command if we do reply? Will we be terminated if we don’t by the deadline? We have no idea what’s going on because no one at the top is on the same page or pulling in the same direction. If you have just become president and appointed these people to lead these major government departments, how are they being blindsided by this?
Sounds to me like always the MSM has made a mountain out of a mole hill, people have fallen for it and are now running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
Could I add one from my father. "If you stir up enough $hit it will wind up on you too". Wish he would have told me that 5-years earlier than he did.
Also, besides the MSM just hating Trump because he casts a shadow, he is also proving that they lied & lied & lied for at least the last 4-years and they do not have the ability to admit it.
Like Ron White said to the officer after he was identified as "Tater Tot", "I had the right to remain silent, just not the ability".
Oh yeah, I don’t doubt you at all there man. I’m sure there are plenty of competent employees in every government department but also loads of incompetent employees or those who just don’t give a shit. That kind of stuff that you described should absolutely be flushed out.
