I would expect a pharmacist to buy good booze...it is a drug right?
14 million could lose coverage
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I would expect a pharmacist to buy good booze...it is a drug right?
here is a quick real life example of pharmacy prices...family member is using a chain for all his medications. He's older and in assisted living facility. They were charging him over $1,500 a month but billing it to an old address. After 6 months of the bill going to the wrong address, it finally caught up. This pharmacy knew (not cvs or walgreens but a chain) there were problems but never did anything about it and then demanded over $7,000. they were paid $1,000 and then told to go pound sand. Switched pharmacy top a local non chain and the new price per month is around $150. I've left out some of the details but you can get the jest of the story. Pharmacy does make a difference....sometimes a huge difference. They are crooks, especially when it comes to customers who can't watch out for themselves. I was told this wasn't the first time that problems for people in the facility occurred. I will get that name and let you know. I'm pretty sure it was Omnicare Pharmacy.
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ITT - MJD goes after birth control on one hand then decries abortion as birth control on the other. Classic.
In what universe does a doctor refuse to treat an accident victim in tbe ER for lack of insurance?
Already written. 10 years max. No dispenser, Amazon Prime like delivery instead...
Maybe we should all just drop our insurance if we're still going to get medical treatment. Beats paying outrageous bills, premiums and deductibles. Maybe we're the stupid ones.
Or, it could be treated as normal business transaction where you pay to play.
And the largest provider is squealing like a pig that their government paid for income stream may get terminated.
I have reality and priorities. Time for others to get the same. Everything is cool until someone is in a desperate situation. Tough love is the best teacher.
Or we as a society decide not to revert to state of nature and instead agree to a social contract that includes some safety net. Either way...
I hope the Trumpanzees get all the unregulated, free market, health care they can stand. They'll be gouged until they can't sit for supper. Revoke COBRA while they're at it -- let the poor pay for their health care or pound sand. They want free market health care, let em' have it. I give up.
We've seen the health insurance industry consolidate and self-organize into monopolies around the country. BC/BS is it in Oklahoma. No antitrust enforcement, from either party, and there damned sure won't be any from a republican president.
I just heard Steve King on CNN bragging about his tort reform bill. It's a boon for..... the insurance industry. I had an old lady with a compound fracture in her lower leg in Texas. Long story short, she went 14 hours, from provider to provider, without the wound being cleaned (literally had dirt in it) until the orthopedic Dr. walked in to perform surgery. Dr. got mad, said she'd have staph, and she did, and it cost her her leg. Two ER's let her come and go and nobody cleaned the wound. Couldn't find a lawyer to take the case. Se la vie. It's the type of health care Texas wants I guess. Dr's got what they wanted in TX. Any Tx Dr's on the board that can tell us how their malpractice premiums are?
I say let the conservative, free-market agenda reign in health care. It will guarantee universal health care once these poor gullible people see what it means.
We've seen the health insurance industry consolidate and self-organize into monopolies around the country. BC/BS is it in Oklahoma. No antitrust enforcement, from either party, and there damned sure won't be any from a republican president.
I just heard Steve King on CNN bragging about his tort reform bill. It's a boon for..... the insurance industry. I had an old lady with a compound fracture in her lower leg in Texas. Long story short, she went 14 hours, from provider to provider, without the wound being cleaned (literally had dirt in it) until the orthopedic Dr. walked in to perform surgery. Dr. got mad, said she'd have staph, and she did, and it cost her her leg. Two ER's let her come and go and nobody cleaned the wound. Couldn't find a lawyer to take the case. Se la vie. It's the type of health care Texas wants I guess. Dr's got what they wanted in TX. Any Tx Dr's on the board that can tell us how their malpractice premiums are?
I say let the conservative, free-market agenda reign in health care. It will guarantee universal health care once these poor gullible people see what it means.
Suggestions, we are all curious? I work for a Medical Device manufacturer and know these things are NOT cheap to produce in all levels of the process.
I still think the Health Maintenence act of 1973 needs to be repealed before you can have a serious conversation about health insurance for all.
Oh, and isn't the number of enrolled ten million? If true how will 14 million or 22 or whatever going to end up with no insurance?
great company thats a boulder in your industry stream kudos
now let's talk about the 99%
Let's...a few CEO's salaries being cut is FAR from any worthwhile solution, we both know that.
because the healthcare industry plays with healthcare money
in vegas it's just a purple chip
until you get home and it's $500
Healthcare is a commodity or service, just like any other. You make crappy life choices and can't afford a car, get a bicycle or walk, or go without. It isn't my responsibility to buy you a car. Same holds true for healthcare.
Buy insurance if you'd like. That's your choice. But let's get back to the basics and a lot of this will sort itself out. A hospital should be like a grocery store or car lot. Advertise your prices and let the consumer review your products and service.
And where in the heck does the US Constitution grant the federal government the authority to do any of this? Obama care was legal because they called it a tax. If you remove the tax element of the situation, what's left? Interstate Commerce Clause? How does that apply to requiring electronic medical records or providing government assistance?
I'm all for taking the social safety net away and letting people live or die with the consequences. You'll find a lot less reliance on big brother government and much more on family and charity.
In the sage words of coach Bud Kilmer, "I've never seen such a dumb smart person in all my life. Back to the basics, back to the basics, back to the basics."
Buy insurance if you'd like. That's your choice. But let's get back to the basics and a lot of this will sort itself out. A hospital should be like a grocery store or car lot. Advertise your prices and let the consumer review your products and service.
And where in the heck does the US Constitution grant the federal government the authority to do any of this? Obama care was legal because they called it a tax. If you remove the tax element of the situation, what's left? Interstate Commerce Clause? How does that apply to requiring electronic medical records or providing government assistance?
I'm all for taking the social safety net away and letting people live or die with the consequences. You'll find a lot less reliance on big brother government and much more on family and charity.
In the sage words of coach Bud Kilmer, "I've never seen such a dumb smart person in all my life. Back to the basics, back to the basics, back to the basics."
Better ideology: "It's all about me and only me, period." Just say that in regard to any political issue.
Really? Wow. I didn't know that. That's a point I've never heard. Not one time, from any media. The media totally follows the narrative given to them.
According to the CDC, 75% of illnesses and 75% healthcare costs are based entirely upon personal choices.
(What you eat, how much you exercise, whether you smoke cigs etc)
socialist payer system
capitalist provider system
i tried having this conversation with davidallen and his admitted 40#'s overweight
but to the obamacare mind it doesn't matter what you take out of the buffet line as long as everybody's paying for it
capitalist provider system
According to the CDC, 75% of illnesses and 75% healthcare costs are based entirely upon personal choices.
(What you eat, how much you exercise, whether you smoke cigs etc)
i tried having this conversation with davidallen and his admitted 40#'s overweight
but to the obamacare mind it doesn't matter what you take out of the buffet line as long as everybody's paying for it
SNAP pays 7B for sugary drinks and 170M in advertising to reduce sugary drink consumption
so the govmt pays 7B for sugary drinks then pays how much in healthcare costs on the backend?
that's the obamacare shuffle
nausea vomiting and diarrhea
money flying out both ends
so the govmt pays 7B for sugary drinks then pays how much in healthcare costs on the backend?
that's the obamacare shuffle
nausea vomiting and diarrhea
money flying out both ends
According to the CDC, 75% of illnesses and 75% healthcare costs are based entirely upon personal choices.
(What you eat, how much you exercise, whether you smoke cigs etc)
The overwhelming majority of chronic disease is preventable.
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That's establishment, dude. Aren't they trying to poison our kids with mercury in vaccines?
I've been screaming for years that some basic underwriting guidelines and a universal policy, or a mandatory catastrophic policy. It could take care of the great lion's share of runaway health insurance. As a small business owner, I welcome single payer.
It is wild to me how many conservatives are touching the "single payer" flame. Biff came out for it in a debate and every since then, the idea isn't rampant socialism and death panels, etc. Just amazing how important the messenger and not the message is to these people. If Obama wanted to do it the same people would scream.
BAIER: But on ObamaCare...
TRUMP: And the Middle East became totally destabilized. So I just want to say.
As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you're talking about here.
What I'd like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees. And if I'm negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid.
You know why?
Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage.
But they have total control of the politicians. They're making a fortune.
Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have...
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TRUMP: -- yourself great plans. And then we have to take care of the people that can't take care of themselves. And I will do that through a different system.
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BAIER: Mr. Trump, hold up one second.
PAUL: I've got a news flash...
BAIER: All right, now, hold on, Senator Paul...
PAUL: News flash, the Republican Party's been fighting against a single-payer system...
BAIER: OK.
PAUL: -- for a decade. So I think you're on the wrong side of this if you're still arguing for a single-payer system.
TRUMP: I'm not -- I'm not are -- I don't think you heard me. You're having a hard time tonight.
BAIER: All right, let me...
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We can talk later about how full of it Biff was -- he hasn't tried to do any of this.
Oh bull. Food stamps have allowed that stuff forever, through many republican congresses and presidencies. Take it up with the processed foods lobby.
