iowa on Sunday, January 11

[leroyjethrogibbs]

january 4, 2014


Iowa (7-0, 3-0) concluded a seven-day road trip with a Midlands team title, four individual Midlands champions, and a 2-0 mark in Big Ten duals. The Hawkeyes return to action Jan. 11 at Oklahoma State. The dual begins at 2 p.m. (CT).
NOTES -- Attendance was 6,558... Burak made his season debut wrestling attached... Clark's loss was his first of the season, and his first career loss in Big Ten duals... All-Americans Burak (10-0), Evans (16-0) and Telford (16-0) are undefeated on the season.


#1 IOWA 18, #7 Ohio State 14


125 -- #4 Thomas Gilman (IOWA) dec. #8 Nathan Tomasello (OSU), 2-1 TB1; 3-0
133 -- #9 Johnni DiJulius (OSU) dec. #4 Cory Clark (IOWA), 7-5; 3-3
141 -- #1 Logan Stieber (OSU) tech. fall #6 Josh Dziewa (IOWA), 15-0; 3-8
149 -- #10 Brandon Sorensen (IOWA) dec. #5 Hunter Stieber (OSU), 9-7; 6-8
157 -- #6 Josh Demas (OSU) dec. Michael Kelly (IOWA), 5-2; 6-11

165 -- #9 Bo Jordan (OSU) dec. #7 Nick Moore (IOWA), 9-2; 6-14
174 -- #3 Mike Evans (IOWA) dec. #12 Mark Martin (OSU), 5-2; 9-12
184 -- #8 Sammy Brooks (IOWA) dec. #12 Kenny Courts (OSU), 3-2; 12-14
197 -- #6 Nathan Burak (IOWA) dec. #7 Kyle Snyder (OSU), 2-1; 15-14
285 -- #3 Bobby Telford (IOWA) dec. #10 Nick Tavanello (OSU), 4-0; 18-14









OSU

Cowboys


This post was edited on 1/9 10:16 AM by leroyjethrogibbs

 

[oberebo]

125 Gilman dec. Klimara 3-1 Iowa 4-0
133 Dijulius de. Harding 7-3 Iowa 6-0
141 Kindig dic. dziewa 3-1Iowa 6-3
149Kindig dec. Sorenson 5-3 6-6
157 Collica dec. Kelly 5-3 OSU 9-6
165 Dierenger dec.Moore OSU 12-6
174 Mike Evans dec. Jordan Rogers 9-6 OSU 12--9
184 Sammy Brooks dec.Nolan Boyd 6-5 12-12
197 Burak dec. Schafer 9-4 15-12 Iowa
HWT Marsden dec Telford 3-2 `5-15
OSU wins by criteria

 

[april racer]

Obe, it would be awesome having kindig at 141, I think he coukd win both those matches, but not sure if he is pulling it off back to back. Also dijulius is Ohio st, Clark is at iowa. That trip must have done a number on you!!

 

[SetonHallPirate]

Originally posted by oberebo:

125 Gilman dec. Klimara 3-1 Iowa 4-0
133 Dijulius de. Harding 7-3 Iowa 6-0
141 Kindig dic. dziewa 3-1Iowa 6-3
149Kindig dec. Sorenson 5-3 6-6
157 Collica dec. Kelly 5-3 OSU 9-6
165 Dierenger dec.Moore OSU 12-6
174 Mike Evans dec. Jordan Rogers 9-6 OSU 12--9
184 Sammy Brooks dec.Nolan Boyd 6-5 12-12
197 Burak dec. Schafer 9-4 15-12 Iowa
HWT Marsden dec Telford 3-2 `5-15
OSU wins by criteria

Also, with the scores you've posted, Iowa would win by criteria.

 

[oberebo]

This comes from not editing or even looking at the post before I pressed the button. Obviously Clark would be the one dec. Harding and Heil dec. Dziewa. It is hard for a post graduate of AARP to plug in names anymore. This is also the orange view of the match as some matches could go the other way.

 

[cranberryadams]

125 Gilman dec. Klimara Iowa 3-0
133 Clark dec. Harding Iowa 6-0
141 Heil dec. Dziewa Iowa 6-3
149 Kindig dec. Sorenson tied 6-6
157 Collica dec. Kelly OSU 9-6
165 Dieringer maj. Moore OSU 13-6
174 Evans fall Rogers OSU 13-12
184 Brooks dec. Boyd Iowa 15-13
197 Burak dec. Schafer Iowa 18-13
285 Telford dec. Marsden Iowa 21-13

Possible upsets:

Sorenson over Kindig
Marsden over Telford

 

[Ihawkd9times]

125 Gilman dec. Klimara Iowa 3-0
133 Clark dec. Harding Iowa 6-0
141 Heil dec. Dziewa Iowa 6-3
149 Kindig dec. Sorenson tied 6-6
157 Collica dec. Kelly OSU 9-6
165 Dieringer maj. Moore OSU 13-6
174 Evans dec Rogers OSU 13-9
184 Brooks maj. Boyd Iowa 13-13
197 Burak dec. Schafer Iowa 16-13
285 Telford dec. Marsden Iowa 19-13

 

[alabama hank]

flo rankings this week


Iowa # 1 and Oklahoma State # 6[/B]


gilman # 5 & Kilmara # 11


clark # 4 & Harding nr

dziewa # 7 & Heil # 18

sorensen # 6 & Kindig # 2

kelly # 15 & Collica # 18

moore # 9 & Dieringer # 1

evans # 2 & Crutchmer # 12

brooks # 7 & Boyd # 14

burak # 6 & Schafer nr

telford # 1 & Marsden # 4





This post was edited on 1/6 3:14 PM by alabama hank

 

[april racer]

Everyone seems to very reasonable with their predictions, except maybe the MD of Boyd. I think we need a little more pokes centric prediction. While my prediction may seem a bit crazy, I am pretty much just giving OSU the home mat advantage for being in GIA in the matches I think are toss ups.

Klimara dec Gilman 3-0 OSU
Clark dec Harding 3-3
Heil dec Dweiza 6-3 OSU
Kindig dec Sorenson 9-3 OSU
Collica dec Kelly 12-3 OSU
AD major Moore 16-3 OSU
Evans dec Rogers 16-6 OSU
Boyd dec Brooks 19-6 OSU
Burak dec Schafer 19-9 OSU
Marsden dec Telford 22-9 OSU

I could see AD with TF or pin as well.
Also could see Burak major Schafer.

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This post was edited on 1/6 8:26 PM by april racer

 

[Azchief32]

Anybody know if this is going to be streaming? Thanks in advance. Here's to a good match

 

[oberebo]

April, I can not resist after your very mild riposte about my predictions using the wrong team and Kindig twice. I think Collica is wrestling peanut butter and not Jelly in his match but in any event it will be a sticky situation.

 

[april racer]

Man I even mentioned to my wife how stupid it was to autocorrect Kelly with jelly, but sure enough I went ahead and let it go!!

 

[HawkTalk3]

Are they going to pull the shirt on Harding or will they roll with Crutchmer?

 

[poke51]

HawkTalk3 posted on 1/7/2015...


Are they going to pull the shirt on Harding or will they roll with Crutchmer?


Already pulled, is my understanding.

 

[HawkTalk3]

Originally posted by poke51:
HawkTalk3 posted on 1/7/2015...



Are they going to pull the shirt on Harding or will they roll with Crutchmer?


Already pulled, is my understanding.

Oh okay thanks. I noticed he was listed as a non-score on Trackwrestling for the SS so I just assumed.

Thanks again

 

[april racer]

He just happened to score less than Crutchmer. He was in the brackets as OSU as opposed the C Rogers and Marsteller who were listed as unattached.

 

[9Hawks]

This is probably more realistic..
125: Gilman Dec. Klimara
133: Clark Maj. Harding/Crutchmer
141: Dziewa Dec. Heil
149: Kindig Dec. Sorenson
157: Collica Dec. Kelly
165: Dieringer Dec. Moore
174 Evans Dec. Rogers
184: Brooks Dec. Boyd
197: Burak Dec. Schafer
285: Telford Dec. Marsden

Iowa: 22 OSU: 9

 

[osu2082]

Originally posted by 9Hawks:
This is probably more realistic..
125: Gilman Dec. Klimara
133: Clark Maj. Harding/Crutchmer
141: Dziewa Dec. Heil
149: Kindig Dec. Sorenson
157: Collica Dec. Kelly
165: Dieringer Dec. Moore
174 Evans Dec. Rogers
184: Brooks Dec. Boyd
197: Burak Dec. Schafer
285: Telford Dec. Marsden

Iowa: 22 OSU: 9

Possible... 285 is a definite toss up and 125 and 141 aren't too far beyond that. I will also add unless Alex is banged up or training through this dual he will major Moore.

 

[Azchief32]

Originally posted by osu2082:

Originally posted by 9Hawks:
This is probably more realistic..
125: Gilman Dec. Klimara
133: Clark Maj. Harding/Crutchmer
141: Dziewa Dec. Heil
149: Kindig Dec. Sorenson
157: Collica Dec. Kelly
165: Dieringer Dec. Moore
174 Evans Dec. Rogers
184: Brooks Dec. Boyd
197: Burak Dec. Schafer
285: Telford Dec. Marsden

Iowa: 22 OSU: 9

Possible... 285 is a definite toss up and 125 and 141 aren't too far beyond that. I will also add unless Alex is banged up or training through this dual he will major Moore.

I think Heil gets Jeva, agree on the maj of Moore but an upset at either 149 or 157.

 

[april racer]

AZ, I could see Sorenson pulling the upset, but I don't think it will happen. What would be the upset at 57? Kelly has experience and ranking on Collica not to mention a lot more time at this weight. I think this is a toss up and I think Collica pulls it out, but don't know if any result could be considered an upset.

 

[jon_osu]

TAILGATE

[/B]
We are having a tailgate at the Hideaway, 230 S Knoblock in Stillwater this Sunday from 11:30am - 1:00pm[/B] prior to the dual against Iowa. The far north room of the restaurant will be reserved for "Oklahoma State Wrestling Fans". Just like last year, we'll order off the menu and be on separate checks.

 

[mrsokstatefan]

I'm accepting RSVP's for the tailgate to get an accurate count for seating. Please email me at kkober@cox.net with your name and number in your party by Friday. Certainly looking forward to it and hope to see a sea of orange Sunday. GO POKES!!!

 

[MiccoMacey]

125 Gilman dec Klimara 3-0 Iowa
133 Clark dec Harding 6-0 Iowa
141 Heil dec Dziewa 6-3 Iowa (upset special)
149 Kindig dec Sorenson 6-6 Iowa
157 Kelly dec Collica 9-6 Iowa
165 Dierenger dec Moore 9-9 Iowa
174 Evans dec Rogers/Crutchmer 12--9 Iowa
184 Boyd dec Brooks 12-12 Iowa
197 Burak dec Schafer 15-12 Iowa
HWT Telford dec Marsden 18-12 Iowa

Several of these could go either way and were toss-ups. Klimara, Heil, Boyd, and Marsden could all flip from this prediction.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

Originally posted by MiccoMacey:
125 Gilman dec Klimara 3-0 Iowa
133 Clark dec Harding 6-0 Iowa
141 Heil dec Dziewa 6-3 Iowa (upset special)
149 Kindig dec Sorenson 6-6 Iowa
157 Kelly dec Collica 9-6 Iowa
165 Dierenger dec Moore 9-9 Iowa
174 Evans dec Rogers/Crutchmer 12--9 Iowa
184 Boyd dec Brooks 12-12 Iowa
197 Burak dec Schafer 15-12 Iowa
HWT Telford dec Marsden 18-12 Iowa

Several of these could go either way and were toss-ups. Klimara, Heil, Boyd, and Marsden could all flip from this prediction.

You have no idea how funny that is and also guessing you haveny seen Sammy wrestle much this season. Crazy things could happen and the Cowboys could pull this meet out but it wont have anything to do with Brooks losing. Boyd will be lucky to stay off his back.

Ill give you any other upsets other than Dierenger and Brooks. With all due respect to Evans and Telford as they may place higher at nationals but Brooks is the best Iowa wrestler in terms of putting up bonus points, motor, style. Youll see.

 

[MiccoMacey]

You're right in that I haven't seen Brooks wrestle. So that may be on me. We'll see. Won't know until Sunday. Good luck to you Hawkeyes.

 

[Azchief32]

Originally posted by april racer:
AZ, I could see Sorenson pulling the upset, but I don't think it will happen. What would be the upset at 57? Kelly has experience and ranking on Collica not to mention a lot more time at this weight. I think this is a toss up and I think Collica pulls it out, but don't know if any result could be considered an upset.

You have a point. I still think of Mad Mike as a guy who has lost to a lot of folks he shouldn't have but this year he has been on a roll and wrestling very tough. So far, he has wrestled everybody tough except IMar. Sorensen is going to be a very tough out and seems like he has been improving by leaps and bounds every week. If he stays healthy, I think he will have a few titles by the time he is done. Should be a fun dual.

 

[cranberryadams]

184 Boyd dec Brooks 12-12 Iowa






You have no idea how funny that is and also guessing you haveny seen Sammy wrestle much this season. Crazy things could happen and the Cowboys could pull this meet out but it wont have anything to do with Brooks losing. Boyd will be lucky to stay off his back.

Agreed; Boyd not in Brooks' league.

 

[ghost of Gallagher]

iowa: 125, 133, 174, 184, 197

OSU: 141, 149, 157, 165, hwt

most bonus points wins

 

[MiccoMacey]

Went online to buy tickets so I don't have to stand outside in the cold for two hours. Of course, not able to purchase them.

OSU is the most unfriendly ticket office ever. This is not the first time I've had issues with them. Their bungling of my daughters Pistol Pete Posse thing was landmarkingly epic.

Grrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

 

[MiccoMacey]

Originally posted by Ihawkd9times:

You have no idea how funny that is and also guessing you haveny seen Sammy wrestle much this season. Crazy things could happen and the Cowboys could pull this meet out but it wont have anything to do with Brooks losing. Boyd will be lucky to stay off his back.

Ill give you any other upsets other than Dierenger and Brooks. With all due respect to Evans and Telford as they may place higher at nationals but Brooks is the best Iowa wrestler in terms of putting up bonus points, motor, style. Youll see.

Trying to decide if I want to say "I told you so." Going to try and be the bigger man, but it is so tempting. So I'll refrain.

Called 8 of the 10 matches. Missed on Heil (which I called an upset), and Kindig.

That was as bad as I've seen for OSU wrestling in awhile.

 

[Azchief32]

Originally posted by MiccoMacey:

Originally posted by Ihawkd9times:

You have no idea how funny that is and also guessing you haveny seen Sammy wrestle much this season. Crazy things could happen and the Cowboys could pull this meet out but it wont have anything to do with Brooks losing. Boyd will be lucky to stay off his back.

Ill give you any other upsets other than Dierenger and Brooks. With all due respect to Evans and Telford as they may place higher at nationals but Brooks is the best Iowa wrestler in terms of putting up bonus points, motor, style. Youll see.

Trying to decide if I want to say "I told you so." Going to try and be the bigger man, but it is so tempting. So I'll refrain.

Called 8 of the 10 matches. Missed on Heil (which I called an upset), and Kindig.

That was as bad as I've seen for OSU wrestling in awhile.

Go ahead...H/T to Boyd but c'mon now...Brooks was trying to pile on (up 5-1) and got caught being overly aggressive. He wrestles a smart match and it ends up 8-2 or something like that.

 

[CB4OSUWrestling]

But he didn`t and it didn`t a few if ands and buts but none of them change the score or the outcome. Very simple you were wrong about Brooks and Boyd beat him which was really the only highlight of the match for OSU today. Our former national champ couldn`t even tech or pin a back up so that should show us all where our program currently stands.

 

[april racer]

AZ, you are right, but the same could be said for both Heil and Collica. Neither of them wrestled smart matches and it cost them. Today was brutal, but I'm not overly concerned. As I stated in another thread pokes got whipped by iowa last year, but finished quite a ways ahead in March. Don't know if it will happen again, but they are better than tgey showed today.

This post was edited on 1/11 8:12 PM by april racer

 

[MiccoMacey]

Originally posted by Azchief32:Go ahead...H/T to Boyd but c'mon now...Brooks was trying to pile on (up 5-1) and got caught being overly aggressive. He wrestles a smart match and it ends up 8-2 or something like that.

No, I said I wouldn't rub it in that I was right, and I won't. I'm a man of my word, and when I say I'm not going to do something, like rub it in when I was right for saying Boyd would beat Brooks and Ihawked9times said he wouldn't, well then I'm going to refrain from doing just that. Even though I was highly chastised by Ihawked9times for picking Boyd over Brooks. It would be very easy for me to gloat. But I won't! I've too much integrity to lower myself like that. So, I will refrain from even mentioning I picked Boyd over Brooks and I was correct and Ihawked9times was wrong. You won't hear that from me.

 

[Gooseeman]

Originally posted by Ihawkd9times:

184 Boyd dec Brooks 12-12 Iowa




You have no idea how funny that is and also guessing you haveny seen Sammy wrestle much this season. Crazy things could happen and the Cowboys could pull this meet out but it wont have anything to do with Brooks losing. Boyd will be lucky to stay off his back.

Ill give you any other upsets other than Dierenger and Brooks. With all due respect to Evans and Telford as they may place higher at nationals but Brooks is the best Iowa wrestler in terms of putting up bonus points, motor, style. Youll see.

Dominate win by iowa, but since I have no dog in the fight, thought this should be brought back up

 

[MiccoMacey]

Originally posted by Gooseeman:

Originally posted by Ihawkd9times:

184 Boyd dec Brooks 12-12 Iowa






You have no idea how funny that is and also guessing you haveny seen Sammy wrestle much this season. Crazy things could happen and the Cowboys could pull this meet out but it wont have anything to do with Brooks losing. Boyd will be lucky to stay off his back.

Ill give you any other upsets other than Dierenger and Brooks. With all due respect to Evans and Telford as they may place higher at nationals but Brooks is the best Iowa wrestler in terms of putting up bonus points, motor, style. Youll see.

Dominate win by iowa, but since I have no dog in the fight, thought this should be brought back up

No, Goose...I shall refrain from piling on to poor Ihawked9times ill-conceived words. I shall take the high road, as always, and not point out that I called that match and he emphatically called me out, even using the barb "You have no idea how funny that is".

To have to live a day in my shoes, shoes that only touch paths of righteousness...it's a daunting challenge for any person and almost more than I can bear myself. But somehow I do.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

Originally posted by MiccoMacey:

Originally posted by Gooseeman:

Originally posted by Ihawkd9times:

184 Boyd dec Brooks 12-12 Iowa








You have no idea how funny that is and also guessing you haveny seen Sammy wrestle much this season. Crazy things could happen and the Cowboys could pull this meet out but it wont have anything to do with Brooks losing. Boyd will be lucky to stay off his back.

Ill give you any other upsets other than Dierenger and Brooks. With all due respect to Evans and Telford as they may place higher at nationals but Brooks is the best Iowa wrestler in terms of putting up bonus points, motor, style. Youll see.

Dominate win by iowa, but since I have no dog in the fight, thought this should be brought back up

No, Goose...I shall refrain from piling on to poor Ihawked9times ill-conceived words. I shall take the high road, as always, and not point out that I called that match and he emphatically called me out, even using the barb "You have no idea how funny that is".

To have to live a day in my shoes, shoes that only touch paths of righteousness...it's a daunting challenge for any person and almost more than I can bear myself. But somehow I do.

LOL, well I guess thats why they wrestle the matches. Odd meet.

Gilman finds his offense vs another top guy for once. If that Gilman show up in STL...good things

I thought your 133 wrestled Clark hard. I like his fight. Tough kid to ride and break down. Honestly I am a bit more worried about Clark than most hawk fans. I realize part of Clarks gimmick is to let guys in to initiate a scramble but he is almost having that backfire.

141, was the opposite of 184. Brooks nor Heil had any business losing those matches but found a way.

149. Sorensen is legit in a very week weight class. And he is very good on his feet and can get takedowns, something Tshirt or Habat struggle with. I dont think we saw the best Kindig. I favored Brandon on his feet but thought Josh would be more mat saavy than what we saw. I was just waiting for a reversal or two that never came. Rematch will be a lot closer but like I said, if you can get takedown with efficiency, why not win this in STL?

157. Collica doesnt seem like he has progressed much? I liked him was it 2 years ago at 149? Whats up with him

165. Alex is just a horse, how that kid ever made 157. Kid must be 175+ on sat night in a finals. Nobody at 165 is really in his league. All due respect to Sulzer, the guy who matches up is Bo Jordan. He looks just as big as Alex. And has the talent. I cant wait to see those two go.

174. Nice to see Evans turning folks again.

184. First time I have seen Brooks tank out. Must have used a ton of energy trying to throw and stay off his back. Sammy had him but wasnt content with just winning. Reminded me a bit of Meyer vs Cousins at midlands in terms of learning curve.. Not a good idea to look upper body with taller guys. Oh well, I like where Sammy is at and its a learning expierance. I have no issue with Boyd being in Sammy's path come nationals. This win for Boyd will look really good at the end of the year on his resume.

197, not much too say. Burak is a legit threat for a title. Grown into that weight, tought to takedown and is finishing those shots on the legs now.

HWT. Telford is just really hard to take down and he can eat up clock riding. thses top 4 HWTS are coin flips. So important to get that one TD.

 

[MiccoMacey]

Originally posted by Ihawkd9times: LOL, well I guess thats why they wrestle the matches. Odd meet.

Thanks for taking this in good sport, Ihawkd9times. Just having a little fun.

It was odd, but expected. Outside of the complete lack of fire or desire by the OSU wrestlers (which probably still had little bearing on the overall outcome), it went pretty much as most expected.

The two bigger upsets was Sorensen and Boyd. Although, and I'll get lambasted over here for saying this, Kindig is not a sure-fire National finalist this year regardless of what he did last year. I still say he was a benefactor of having those seeded above him fall, more so than anything he accomplished (other than keep winning against whomever was in front of him when all around him others fell...he gets credit for that). He'll beat Houdashelt with one of the best throws ever, then turn around and lay this egg (no disrespect to Sorensen). He's going to need to be more consistent than this to reach his goals.

And I have no earthly idea why Brooks sabotaged his match. It was won easily had he not tried to throw Boyd. As you stated, surely he'll learn from this.

 

[Kingk0ng]

Not so fun fact...Kindig is 0-4 in Iowa duals...

 

[Azchief32]

Originally posted by april racer:
AZ, you are right, but the same could be said for both Heil and Collica. Neither of them wrestled smart matches and it cost them. Today was brutal, but I'm not overly concerned. As I stated in another thread pokes got whipped by iowa last year, but finished quite a ways ahead in March. Don't know if it will happen again, but they are better than tgey showed today.

This post was edited on 1/11 8:12 PM by april racer

The best guy won yesterday. Brooks attempted a stupid throw leading 5-1 and got caught. Boyd withstood the flurry in the third period (which is more impressive to me). That said, Brooks initiated a single move that was his demise. I felt your guys were gassing in both matches at 141 and 157 and Jeva initiated the move that got him the win.

Like I told the PSU guys, Mama said there'd be days like this. I know for a fact that OSU is better than what happened yesterday. You all will bounce back and be right back in the thick of it. The only reason I'm so excited was because the amount of action we initiated, not so much the score. Good luck the rest of the way.