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Wow maybe the medical establishment is catching up....

A cancer cure would be worth trillions
Only until your patent runs out and it becomes generic like amoxicillin then you need something new but you’ve wiped out your money train. Expensive life prolonging but not curing treatments are the lifeline for big pharma. My aunt had over $5million in chemo treatments and didn’t survive. That’s for 1 person. Trillions isn’t enough for them to really want a cure.
 
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Only until your parent runs out and it becomes generic like amoxicillin then you need something new but you’ve wiped out your money train. Expensive life prolonging but not curing treatments are the lifeline for big pharma. My aunt had over $5million in chemo treatments and didn’t survive. That’s for 1 person. Trillions isn’t enough for them to really want a cure.
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You really think with all the advances in society that we couldn’t cure most cancers if we really truly wanted to?? Pharma makes money treating symptoms not with cures.
I 100% believe if a research doctor thought they could cure cancer, be wildly famous, win a Nobel prize and be wealthy beyond all imagination they would do it TODAY. Are you people really this dense?
 
I 100% believe if a research doctor thought they could cure cancer, be wildly famous, win a Nobel prize and be wealthy beyond all imagination they would do it TODAY. Are you people really this dense?

And who is going to finance this doctor’s efforts?

The top 10 Pharma companies by revenue all exceed $40B (except for number 10 at $38B) and the top is over $80B.

Boeing is at $75B and all sorts of people are more than willing to consider the possibility that Boeing execs are arranging the demise of whistleblowers, but suggesting that big Pharma companies could be so nefarious is conspiracy theory.

Large companies do not have a conscience. They are legal entities, not humans. They are led by humans who are fallible and corruptible, and with that kind of money at stake there are few people alive who could stand firm in a principled position.

There is no logical reason to believe these companies want to help people. They employ people who do, but those people are not the ones making the decisions.

We need good studies. But to suggest that enormous quantities of money do not influence what gets studied and how it gets studied is simply not logical and ignores human nature.
 
And who is going to finance this doctor’s efforts?

The top 10 Pharma companies by revenue all exceed $40B (except for number 10 at $38B) and the top is over $80B.

Boeing is at $75B and all sorts of people are more than willing to consider the possibility that Boeing execs are arranging the demise of whistleblowers, but suggesting that big Pharma companies could be so nefarious is conspiracy theory.

Large companies do not have a conscience. They are legal entities, not humans. They are led by humans who are fallible and corruptible, and with that kind of money at stake there are few people alive who could stand firm in a principled position.

There is no logical reason to believe these companies want to help people. They employ people who do, but those people are not the ones making the decisions.

We need good studies. But to suggest that enormous quantities of money do not influence what gets studied and how it gets studied is simply not logical and ignores human nature.
You do realize that pharmaceutical companies are not the only people that do research, right? And again, if a company could cure cancer, they’d instantly be one of the richest companies in the WORLD
 
Bloodletting used to be a common practice as well. It had tens of thousands of ardent, enthusiastic practitioners. Turns out, it was quackery.

Also consider the Incas: they believed that a shaman known as El Hanpeq could magically cure their ailments with potions and minerals. I haven’t seen ole El Hanpeq make his way around in my lifetime.

Folks, the year is 2024 with the literal universe of all known information at our fingertips on our hand computers known as phones. Instead of making great progress, we have turned again into troglodytes. Crazy conspiracy theories, self-obsessed magical thinking, and, yes, ingesting veterinary deworming medication as a means to cure all things from COVID to cancer are seen as markers of a virtuous lifestyle according to a select few enlightened individuals.

Please stop believing that El Hanpeq’s magical potions can heal you. Crimony.
Well, sir, I don't know you, and I respect your skepticism. However, I now have over 6,000 success stories globally that say your skepticism is unfounded. At least 500 of those were 4th stage, go home and hire hospice get your affairs in order level (who eschewed all traditional oncology). These cases are NOT anecdotal and have been audited by major universities. I now have four MAJOR Universities that agree with me and have published peer-reviewed scientific papers. After 8 years of research, I'm willing to debate you all day long with proof that it's not a "conspiracy theory".
 
Well, sir, I don't know you, and I respect your skepticism. However, I now have over 6,000 success stories globally that say your skepticism is unfounded. At least 500 of those were 4th stage, go home and hire hospice get your affairs in order level (who eschewed all traditional oncology). These cases are NOT anecdotal and have been audited by major universities. I now have four MAJOR Universities that agree with me and have published peer-reviewed scientific papers. After 8 years of research, I'm willing to debate you all day long with proof that it's not a "conspiracy theory".
If I recall, and if I am not correct forgive me. My understanding is Big Pharma tried to intimidate you as well.
 
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If I recall, and if I am not correct forgive me. My understanding is Big Pharma tried to intimidate you as well.
Not really. In fact a sea change has occurred in oncologists attitudes. 8 yrs ago, 99% would say “that’s all BS, don’t listen to it”. Today only about 40% in that category. Many today say “I’ve looked into that and there might be something to it, but I can’t prescribe it…winky winky…so go ahead and try it”. The reason Stanford and U.of Washington are even involved? Both had multiple unexplainable remissions, brought those people in for interviews and all of them said, “well I’m on the Joe Tippens protocol”.

There exists a fascinating dichotomy inside Merck. Their human business hates me. Their Vetmed business loves me. Global unit volume for Fenbebdazole is up 20x…..and that’s not from pets or zoo animals 😎
 
There is plenty of grant money for studies in the effectiveness of off label uses. That’s why the government literally spends billions funding grants. Quit pretending that pharmaceutical companies are the only ones funding research. And it’s not just the US either.
You do know "off label" is not the same as off patent don't you? So you have no point.
 
You do know "off label" is not the same as off patent don't you? So you have no point.
Uh, of course I do. That's why I said it. There is plenty of research for off label uses of a variety of drugs both still under patent and "off patent"
 
I believe that there is a good reason why so many people are skeptical about "big pharma."

However, that does NOT make pseudo-science like phrenology, homeopathic or orthomolecular "medicine" legit.
 
Well, sir, I don't know you, and I respect your skepticism. However, I now have over 6,000 success stories globally that say your skepticism is unfounded. At least 500 of those were 4th stage, go home and hire hospice get your affairs in order level (who eschewed all traditional oncology). These cases are NOT anecdotal and have been audited by major universities. I now have four MAJOR Universities that agree with me and have published peer-reviewed scientific papers. After 8 years of research, I'm willing to debate you all day long with proof that it's not a "conspiracy theory".
Please post these peer reviewed studies
 

I would also recommend that many of you on here read the book by Tom Nichols, “The Death of Expertise”.
 
I believe that there is a good reason why so many people are skeptical about "big pharma."

However, that does NOT make pseudo-science like phrenology, homeopathic or orthomolecular "medicine" legit.

Of course not.

But it also doesn’t make people reporting success with unproven treatments illegitimate pseudo-scientists. It just means those treatments are yet to be proven effective.
 
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I would also recommend that many of you on here read the book by Tom Nichols, “The Death of Expertise”.
That non-study is a hit piece by the S Koreans I could write a book about. It’s total bullshit solely because the Korean government, for some reason, is on a rampage. They sent people from Korea to okc to my house under false pretenses. THEN the one key evidence they base this paper on is based on a lie by itself. I’d be happy to show that to you. Contrast that with Chinese professors and govt where they are all in and have immobilized multiple research efforts. There’s over 60,000 Chinese on the protocol, supported by gov’t
 
Of course not.

But it also doesn’t make people reporting success with unproven treatments illegitimate pseudo-scientists. It just means those treatments are yet to be proven effective.
the only reason Fenben is not human approved is it is 20 yrs off patent and the $350 million clinical trial would be generic competition the next day.

Scientists at OU, OMRF, Stanford, U of Wash and Emory would disagree w you. The case numbers of successes is 5x larger than any clinical trial in history. And there’s evidence it’s 5x larger that we haven’t heard of. Between 4 and 10 NEW successes roll in every week
 
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the only reason Fenben is not human approved is it is 20 yrs off patent and the $350 million clinical trial would be generic competition the next day.

Scientists at OU, OMRF, Stanford, U of Wash and Emory would disagree w you. The case numbers of successes is 5x larger than any clinical trial in history. And there’s evidence it’s 5x larger that we haven’t heard of. Between 4 and 10 NEW successes roll in every week

When I say yet to be proven, I’m talking in a general sense (not specifically about the anthelmintics or your protocol) using multiple studies.

I’m not up to speed on details but I trust you when you mention studies completed or in process. The number of success stories is not statistical noise.
 
I don't think anyone here was trying to crap on "people with cancer". That sure seems like a strawman to me, not to mention that it's a pretty crummy thing to accuse someone of doing.

And while I would never want to belittle anything to a cancer patient that was giving them hope, I think there are valid questions about the morality of giving people a false hope in something.
crummy is ridiculing those with hope/belief ivermectin can help with cancer, which I assume includes cancer patients. That is an assumption on my part so I guess you got me there white knighting for this person, good for you
 
Too many on here you just proved you have no damn idea what you’re talking about
Huh? I'd be happy to read about these "peer reviewed published studies" so why is it so difficult to point out where these studies are???
 
Incredible news that a group of Oklahoma State adjacent folks on a sports message board have been integral in curing cancer in humans through the use of veterinary medicine.

I bet that all of you are targets for Big Pharma, the Feds, and very suspicious looking large black SUVs and helicopters. Be careful because THEY want to destroy you. And they will stop at nothing! The motive? Follow the money!
 
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Huh? I'd be happy to read about these "peer reviewed published studies" so why is it so difficult to point out where these studies are???
He told you but you won’t look. You have no idea. The man is literally alive because of it.
 
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Incredible news that a group of Oklahoma State adjacent folks on a sports message board have been integral in curing cancer in humans through the use of veterinary medicine.

I bet that all of you are targets for Big Pharma, the Feds, and very suspicious looking large black SUVs and helicopters. Be careful because THEY want to destroy you. And they will stop at nothing! The motive? Follow the money!

You are broken
 
using it for something that it won’t help is what is being crtiticized. Getting it from the feed store is what is being mocked
With hits totaling over 10 million outside of China (20 million in China alone), tens of thousands have been on the protocol. ZERO downside risk, ZERO side effects, and ZERO counter effects on traditional oncology methods concurrently and parallel to. And thousands of success stories, many audited by major universities and research institutes to take them from anecdotal to scientific proof.

Anyone saying it is something that won't help or criticizing where it is purchased doesn't have, nor ever has had a life-threatening wide metastasis. With a downside risk of zero and a mountain of evidence of upside, the only question is, "Why not?".

My oncologists at MD Anderson are convinced. Scientists at Stanford, OU, U. of Washington, and Emory in Atlanta are now convinced. I could give a rat's ass whether there is a skeptic on a sports board.
 
Huh? I'd be happy to read about these "peer reviewed published studies" so why is it so difficult to point out where these studies are???
Why don't you start with the post pinned at the top of this message board? Plenty of links in there. Several personal accounts of live humans who have been cured with this protocol. Click the links in the post above. Tons of info on just this website if you'd use it.
 
With hits totaling over 10 million outside of China (20 million in China alone), tens of thousands have been on the protocol. ZERO downside risk, ZERO side effects, and ZERO counter effects on traditional oncology methods concurrently and parallel to. And thousands of success stories, many audited by major universities and research institutes to take them from anecdotal to scientific proof.

Anyone saying it is something that won't help or criticizing where it is purchased doesn't have, nor ever has had a life-threatening wide metastasis. With a downside risk of zero and a mountain of evidence of upside, the only question is, "Why not?".

My oncologists at MD Anderson are convinced. Scientists at Stanford, OU, U. of Washington, and Emory in Atlanta are now convinced. I could give a rat's ass whether there is a skeptic on a sports board.
Risk is never ZERO and side effects are never ZERO, even for the most widely used medications like aspirin, so right there I've got significant concerns about your veracity.
 
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Look at this guy.

He knows more than the experts at Stanford, MD Anderson, OU Med, among others.

We're in the presence of greatness.
I promise you the experts at "Stanford, MD Anderson, OU Med, among others" would never say there is "ZERO Risk" and "ZERO Side effects" to any medication 'protocol' and it's laughable you believe this.
 
Amazing how some folks choose to remain blind even when the talked about evidence is right in front of their face!!

At least read what has been pointed out to you before you continue to argue.
 
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