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Will Musk make the Twitter files source material available?

You didn't have a problem with Twitter or the rest of Big Tech controlling what information was released to the pubic before but now all of a sudden you are?
Did I ever say I did or did not have a problem with this? This is one of your faults. You make way too many assumptions about other people.

you are just concerned your party is being exposed for the authoritarians they are. Hell this isn't even political for me, both sides were censoring speech and that is not acceptable on any terms to me but it seems to be acceptable to you, provided it's your side censoring speech.
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Reread this. You claim I'm upset that this exposes my party and in the very next sentence, you note how this relates to both parties. You don't think I understand that too? Heck, I've asked questions related to how this may involve both parties, questions at the time you attacked, downplayed, and/or refused to answer.

So far, for me, this has been a nothing burger. And that relates to both parties. I'm willing though to be convinced otherwise, but that is going to entail full transparency on the part of Musk.

You want to convince more people of what you believe all of this is, then support full transparency. Stop playing your partisan games.
 
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Did I ever say I did or did not have a problem with this? This is one of your faults. You make way too many assumptions about other people.


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I seem to recall you and other leftists taunting those on the right with, "Twitter is a private company, if you don't like it go build your own platform". Instead a man that believes in free speech bought yours and is now divulging information that proves the right's accusations were not conspiracy theories, once again they were facts. If those of us on the right were arrogant self righteous assholes like you on the left we could say, if you don't like Musk controlling the information you should go build your own platform. LMAO.
Reread this. You claim I'm upset that this exposes my party and in the very next sentence, you note how this relates to both parties. You don't think I understand that too? Heck, I've asked questions related to how this may involve both parties, questions at the time you attacked, downplayed, and/or refused to answer.

So far, for me, this has been a nothing burger. And that relates to both parties. I'm willing though to be convinced otherwise, but that is going to entail full transparency on the part of Musk.
Of course it's a nothing burger to you, you believe in Big Government however once again that pesky Constitution stands against you. Freedom of speech—the right to express opinions without government restraint. You can try your lawyerly tactics of distortion all you want, but Musk has released evidence proving the government was involved in restraining speech, a direct violation of the First Amendment. No two ways about it, it is a big ass burger and one that should concern everyone, including you.
You want to convince more people of what you believe all of this is, then support full transparency. Stop playing your partisan games.
There is no convincing you, you stand with Democrats no matter what.
 
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Musk may upload all source material at some point.

First and foremost though is to make money. Dripping it out is the way to do that.

A problem with just dumping it is privacy law issues. Probably need to scrub everything to avoid any compliance issues.
 
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How far do you usually make it through anything that challenges your unexamined narratives?

Sooooo…you wanna assert that I did no research on the clown before I called bullsh!t on Matt Taibbi being a LeFtiSt?

Is that what you wanna hang your hat on, Alf? Cmon man haha…you’re better than this, no?



carry on
 
Meanwhile at Twitter…


Elon: GET BACK IN THE OFFICE!!!!


Elon, 2 months later, down more than $100B in net worth this year alone: CUT COSTS!!!! WORK FROM HOME!!!!




Shreddin’






carry on
 
Sooooo…you wanna assert that I did no research on the clown before I called bullsh!t on Matt Taibbi being a LeFtiSt?

Is that what you wanna hang your hat on, Alf? Cmon man haha…you’re better than this, no?



carry on

Yes.

You post links to fact check sites all the time.

Those sites have no desire to tell the truth.

They only exist to feed your confirmation bias.
 
Meanwhile at Twitter…


Elon: GET BACK IN THE OFFICE!!!!


Elon, 2 months later, down more than $100B in net worth this year alone: CUT COSTS!!!! WORK FROM HOME!!!!




Shreddin’






carry on

Do you read anything that doesn’t feed your bias?
 
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Do you read anything that doesn’t feed your bias?
Reporting facts is bias? Oh boy lol

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carry on
 
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I’m a snowflake because I’ll entertain opposing views?

Find me an article from your preferred sources that would disprove the Seattle Twitter office is facing eviction and its employees are working from home…..surely this BiAs would be easily accessible for you, yes?…..

waiting patiently, Alf…

Tik…Tok…





carry on
 
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I seem to recall you and other leftists taunting those on the right with, "Twitter is a private company, if you don't like it go build your own platform".
Yes, and your point?

Instead a man that believes in free speech bought yours and is now divulging information that proves the right's accusations were not conspiracy theories, once again they were facts. If those of us on the right were arrogant self righteous assholes like you on the left we could say, if you don't like Musk controlling the information you should go build your own platform. LMAO.
Laying aside your questionable claim that Must believes in the type of free speech you apparently are referencing, all we are asking is for Musk to divulge all the information he has for everyone to see.

Now of course Musk doesn't have to do this (currently). However, if he wants to be taken seriously by people besides just his right-wing followers, he should want to do this. And if you want to convince more people that this is some big deal, you too should be advocating for such action.

however once again that pesky Constitution stands against you. Freedom of speech—the right to express opinions without government restraint.
You mean that Constitution that your boy Trump wants to terminate? Is that the one you are talking about? You care about the Constitution but will vote for a man who wants to terminate it.🙄

See how foolish you sound. You are so wrapped up in double standards and inconsistencies you can't see straight.

I know what freedom of speech is and I know how it currently applies to social media platforms. You apparently continue to be confused by all of this.

but Musk has released evidence proving the government was involved in restraining speech, a direct violation of the First Amendment.
No he hasn't. Sorry, but what you claim exists hasn't come close to being proven yet. That is why many people are yawning and calling this a nothing burger. Try escaping from your groupthink every now and then.

So, we are left with the call for full transparency here, something you can't and won't support. So be it. Keep banging your head against the wall and getting the same results. It is hilarious to observe.
 
Seems if he wants to truly expose the past misdeeds he would make the source material available to journalists outside the small group currently sifting through it. CIA allegations for instance warrant a deeper dive.
Funny, you supported the DOJ not needing a Special master to review Trump's docs, yet can't trust Musk to do something VERY similar himself? Hypocrite much?
 
Find me an article from your preferred sources that would disprove the Seattle Twitter office is facing eviction and its employees are working from home…..surely this BiAs would be easily accessible for you, yes?…..

waiting patiently, Alf…

Tik…Tok…





carry on

Everyone I read or watch for news is a lib.

Brand, Greenwald, Taibbi, Webb.
 
Thats all I do.

Why do you think it’s so easy for me to drag you so consistently?
You aren't dragging anybody. As usual, you are failing with every one of your posts.

Got the article yet Clinton requested? Let's see it.
 
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Find me an article from your preferred sources that would disprove the Seattle Twitter office is facing eviction and its employees are working from home…..surely this BiAs would be easily accessible for you, yes?…..

waiting patiently, Alf…

Tik…Tok…





carry on
Wouldn't it stand to reason if a person was closing an office they wouldn't pay rent? I would think being evicted would terminate the entire lease on favorable terms for Twitter but without seeing the lease that is pure speculation.
 
Funny, you supported the DOJ not needing a Special master to review Trump's docs, yet can't trust Musk to do something VERY similar himself? Hypocrite much?
The special master…appointed by Aileen Cannon…appointed by Trump.

Cmon man lol




carry on
 
You aren't dragging anybody. As usual, you are failing with every one of your posts.

Got the article yet Clinton requested? Let's see it.

That’s your reality?

It fits with the fantasy land you’ve insulted yourself in.
 
Yes, and your point?
Did I ever say I did or did not have a problem with this?

Thanks for proving my point. You had no problem with Twitter censoring free speech and zero concerns government was involved

Laying aside your questionable claim that Must believes in the type of free speech you apparently are referencing, all we are asking is for Musk to divulge all the information he has for everyone to see.
Frustrating isn't it. You had no issue with the January 6th kangaroo court presenting one sided and in some cases edited evidence to present information to the people but now you are concerned about Musk? Strange aren't you the one that claims you are always consistent? Making matters worse is the January 6th Committee is our government, Musk is a private citizen but I'm sure you don't see the issue with this.
Now of course Musk doesn't have to do this (currently). However, if he wants to be taken seriously by people besides just his right-wing followers, he should want to do this. And if you want to convince more people that this is some big deal, you too should be advocating for such action.
Funny how you see this only as a left or right issue when in reality it's an issue of government corruption and abuse of power of both sides. I know it's tough for you to come to the realization your party is everything you thought Republicans were but both sides are corrupt and will abuse their power when they can. The sooner you can admit this the sooner we can straighten this country out.
You mean that Constitution that your boy Trump wants to terminate? Is that the one you are talking about? You care about the Constitution but will vote for a man who wants to terminate it.🙄
Bless your heart, Trump doesn't want to terminate the Constitution but believe what you want. As far as I know it's still OK to think freely at least for a little while longer.
See how foolish you sound. You are so wrapped up in double standards and inconsistencies you can't see straight.
The double standard is on your part as you have clearly shown. I'm not taking up for Republicans or Trump on this issue they clearly tried to suppress the free speech rights of people. Maybe you could admit the same about your Party?
I know what freedom of speech is and I know how it currently applies to social media platforms. You apparently continue to be confused by all of this.
No you clearly don't know how it applies to social media if you are not concerned with what has been revealed.
No he hasn't. Sorry, but what you claim exists hasn't come close to being proven yet. That is why many people are yawning and calling this a nothing burger. Try escaping from your groupthink every now and then.

The FBI sending spread sheets of user accounts to be scrutinized is blatant government involvement.
So, we are left with the call for full transparency here, something you can't and won't support. So be it. Keep banging your head against the wall and getting the same results. It is hilarious to observe.
You have no right to ask much less demand full transparency, you didn't with the January 6th Kangaroo Court you can't demand it now. See how your previous positions come back to bite you in the ass? I find it hilarious.

As to my position, I'll be patient and see how it all works out but as of now I'm enjoying watching the left in full denial, trying to hide behind the "full transparency" argument. Your party got busted and you can't come to grips with it.
 
Did I ever say I did or did not have a problem with this?

Thanks for proving my point. You had no problem with Twitter censoring free speech and zero concerns government was involved
Sigh.

Your explanation of the point you were making was not your original point. Not to mention that Twitter is not the government. They are a social media platform.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Frustrating isn't it.
No it's not.

But if you want to back up your claims and have more people give them serious consideration, you should support full transparency. But you don't.

Again, so be it. Keep banging your head against the wall.

You had no issue with the January 6th kangaroo court presenting one sided and in some cases edited evidence to present information to the people but now you are concerned about Musk?
lol, you are outraged when the January 6 Committee does what you think it did (which I don't agree with btw) but not outraged when Musk does it. Nor do you call on Musk to live up to the standard you want others to follow.

Just more partisan inconsistencies from you. As usual.

Funny how you see this only as a left or right issue when in reality it's an issue of government corruption and abuse of power of both sides. I know it's tough for you to come to the realization your party is everything you thought Republicans were but both sides are corrupt and will abuse their power when they can. The sooner you can admit this the sooner we can straighten this country out.
Again, I've never disagreed this could be about both the left and right. When I mentioned this on another thread though, you tried to downplay the role your party played in all of it. You made excuses for Trump and dodged the tough questions, as you always do.

But again, if you are so worried about government corruption and don't care about the partisan aspect of this, why are you not supporting full transparency?

Trump doesn't want to terminate the Constitution but believe what you want.
So was he lying? Which one is it?🤣🤣

Dang man. Trump literally said it and you chime in to defend him by claiming what he said really wasn't what he wants. lol. Yet, you want us all to believe you really are worried about free speech as it relates to Twitter. What a joke.

I'm not taking up for Republicans or Trump on this issue they clearly tried to suppress the free speech rights of people.
Starting to change your tune finally huh?

Sorry you feel that way about Trump and your own party. Perhaps you should stop voting for them if this is how you feel.

As for me, again, this is all a nothing burger so far. You want me questioning and/or upset with Republicans and Democrats over this, again, support the calls for full transparency.

You have no right to ask much less demand full transparency, you didn't with the January 6th Kangaroo Court you can't demand it now. See how your previous positions come back to bite you in the ass? I find it hilarious.
Of course I have the right to ask for it. What now, you want to silence those who disagree with you? Tell us we can't express our opinion and position on this issue? But hey, this is all about protecting free speech for you, huh?🙄

I don't agree with your characterization of the January 6 Committee. But as I've already stated, you can't be outraged when one group does it and then defend it when someone else does it. And that is exactly what you are now doing.

Pure partisanism from you, as always.

As to my position, I'll be patient and see how it all works out
I've told your how it is going to work out. You and your fellow right-wingers are going to bang your heads against the wall and get nowhere. While getting played by a conman. As usual.

Let me know when you can bring yourself to support full transparency on this issue. Until you do, btw, your calls for full transparency on other issues are worthless.
 
Sigh.

Your explanation of the point you were making was not your original point. Not to mention that Twitter is not the government. They are a social media platform.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Did you and the left or did you not tell conservatives if they didn't like Twitter censoring their speech they should go build their own platform? I'll answer for you, Yes you did. At the same time you ignored any and all suspicions government was involved. Now we know government was in fact involved in censoring speech that went against the preferred government narrative, which were nothing but lies. You approved and supported that without question but now you want to act like you didn't.
No it's not.

But if you want to back up your claims and have more people give them serious consideration, you should support full transparency. But you don't.
Again where were your demands for transparency when Democrats controlled the information? You didn't demand anything you supported Democrats one sided narrative and the silencing of anything that went against it.
Again, so be it. Keep banging your head against the wall.


lol, you are outraged when the January 6 Committee does what you think it did (which I don't agree with btw) but not outraged when Musk does it. Nor do you call on Musk to live up to the standard you want others to follow.

Just more partisan inconsistencies from you. As usual.
Don't lie, you fully supported the January 6th Kangaroo court and still do.
Again, I've never disagreed this could be about both the left and right. When I mentioned this on another thread though, you tried to downplay the role your party played in all of it. You made excuses for Trump and dodged the tough questions, as you always do.
From what I've seen released the Trump administration asked to censor tweets about runs on grocery stores, not exactly a nefarious request but still wrong. Are there other examples? Yet to be determined.
But again, if you are so worried about government corruption and don't care about the partisan aspect of this, why are you not supporting full transparency?
Again which journalist do you want to have access to this? You say all but that's a cope out and not feasible considering what all is involved. When it all comes out i'll be happy to support all journalist have acces to the information but at this point the MSM has proven to be nothing but Democrat cheerleaders. They earned their reputation and deserve to be excluded in the initial stages.
So was he lying? Which one is it?🤣🤣

Dang man. Trump literally said it and you chime in to defend him by claiming what he said really wasn't what he wants. lol. Yet, you want us all to believe you really are worried about free speech as it relates to Twitter. What a joke.
For someone that gets hung up on words you only seem to get hung up on one side. I took Trump's meaning to be a hypothetical in response to the Democrats ignoring the laws and the Constitution. It's Trump's inability to articulate his meaning beyond approach that gets him in trouble.
Starting to change your tune finally huh?

Sorry you feel that way about Trump and your own party. Perhaps you should stop voting for them if this is how you feel.
Sadly yes Republicans are corrupt and will abuse their power when they can but nothing on the level Democrats will. I can call put Republican and Democrats as usual you are only one sided.
As for me, again, this is all a nothing burger so far. You want me questioning and/or upset with Republicans and Democrats over this, again, support the calls for full transparency.
If you are not concerned with what ahs been revealed about the FBI's involvement in Twitter you are as corrupt as they are.
Of course I have the right to ask for it. What now, you want to silence those who disagree with you? Tell us we can't express our opinion and position on this issue? But hey, this is all about protecting free speech for you, huh?🙄
Oh you can ask and receive the ridicule you deserve.
I don't agree with your characterization of the January 6 Committee. But as I've already stated, you can't be outraged when one group does it and then defend it when someone else does it. And that is exactly what you are now doing.
Of course you don't you believe in Kangaroo courts provided they are your kangaroo courts.
Pure partisanism from you, as always.


I've told your how it is going to work out. You and your fellow right-wingers are going to bang your heads against the wall and get nowhere. While getting played by a conman. As usual.

Let me know when you can bring yourself to support full transparency on this issue. Until you do, btw, your calls for full transparency on other issues are worthless.
You are about to get your chance to show whether you support transparency or not with the Republicans investigating Biden. Something tells me you will have a polar opposite view of what transparency is then. Biden and his clown show have already started playing games and you will no doubt support everyone of them.
 
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I can't get my head around Elon's self-destruction. Twitter is unraveling in real time, Tesla's stock is losing a ton of value, he's censoring people left and right on twitter.... I wish someone would explain to me how he's being smart.

Is David's request for transparency unreasonable?
You are one lost sob. 😁
 
Did you and the left or did you not tell conservatives if they didn't like Twitter censoring their speech they should go build their own platform? I'll answer for you, Yes you did. At the same time you ignored any and all suspicions government was involved. Now we know government was in fact involved in censoring speech that went against the preferred government narrative, which were nothing but lies. You approved and supported that without question but now you want to act like you didn't.
I wish you would try to make a valid point instead of all this gibberish and switching back and forth between arguments.

Again, no on is arguing with you that Twitter can't regulate content on its social media platform. Not then and not now.

Again where were your demands for transparency when Democrats controlled the information? You didn't demand anything you supported Democrats one sided narrative and the silencing of anything that went against it.
When did "Democrats" control the information on Twitter? Are you claiming that "Republicans" now control the information on Twitter?

Also, didn't you just state in your previous post this isn't about right or left? Yet, here you are, invoking Democrats.🙄

Don't lie, you fully supported the January 6th Kangaroo court and still do.
Of course I supported the work of the bipartisan January 6 Select Committee. I don't agree with your partisan attacks on it though.

From what I've seen released the Trump administration asked to censor tweets about runs on grocery stores, not exactly a nefarious request but still wrong. Are there other examples? Yet to be determined.
Now back to trying to downplay the role the Trump administration played in all of this, huh?🤣🤣

Guess what. If you really wanted to know if there are other examples or want to know the full extent Trump's administration played, you would be advocating for full transparency.

Again which journalist do you want to have access to this? You say all but that's a cope out and not feasible considering what all is involved.
No, it isn't a cop out. If this is as serious as you want to make it out to be, let all journalists have access to all of the so-called files. Stop playing games.

When it all comes out i'll be happy to support all journalist have acces to the information but at this point the MSM has proven to be nothing but Democrat cheerleaders.
And the right-wing media has proven to be nothing but Republican cheerleaders. Your point?

You keep saying, when it all comes out. What are we waiting on here? Release it all now and don't filter it through a couple of handpicked journalists. Let everyone see it and everyone draw their own conclusions.

I took Trump's meaning to be a hypothetical in response to the Democrats ignoring the laws and the Constitution. It's Trump's inability to articulate his meaning beyond approach that gets him in trouble.
Is this now the latest cult talking point?

The man said he wanted to terminate the Constitution. Yet, you give him a pass on that, make excuses for it, and then turn around and want to claim Democrats are the ones who are ignoring the laws and Constitution.🙄

Trump has been at war with laws and the Constitution for some time now. Open your dang eyes and stop being so easily played.

If you are not concerned with what ahs been revealed about the FBI's involvement in Twitter you are as corrupt as they are.
Sorry, I don't latch on to every faux outrage and delusion the organized right pushes out. Clearly you do though, and so far, it has gotten you and your fellow right-wingers nowhere.

Oh you can ask and receive the ridicule you deserve.
Exactly. Thanks for making my point. So drop your faux outrage.

This isn't really about protecting freedom of speech for you. It is all about partisan politics. And so far, it is a lousy attempt at that.

You are about to get your chance to show whether you support transparency or not with the Republicans investigating Biden.
I've already made my position clear about this. If Republicans want to use their time in the House majority investigating Biden, go right ahead. You want to support it, so be it.

But don't whine about full transparency from the Biden administration when you can't even support full transparency from Musk. And I will definitely remind you of this when you commence with the whining.

Biden and his clown show have already started playing games
What, you just think Biden and his advisors are going to sit back and let Republicans play their games without preparing their response? Come on man.

Republicans still haven't figured Biden out. And they are probably going to play right into his hands and help him get re-elected. And you will just keep banging your head against the wall.🤣🤣
 
Thats another 180 by Big Dave.

He just nodded along while the FBI was telling him what was happening at Twitter.
Is it? Latest allegations seem serious. Is it bad to acknowledge that? Should I just remain an obstinate ass like you do when new facts are revealed?
 
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