White House Policy Advisor Stephen Miller on Face the Nation....

[CowboyJD]

"The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

Thoughts?

Concerns?

Approval?

 

[long-duc-dong]

"The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

Thoughts?

Concerns?

Approval?

I think the powers of the President to protect our country are very substantial. The "will not be questioned" part of it is worrisome. No need for that.

 

[Rdcldad]

trumps gonna trump and that's a good thing in my book

the black robes will check his ass when need be

now the courts go the way of roberts and scotuscare then it gets nervy

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

"The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

Thoughts?

Concerns?

Approval?

Miller is pretty much right about the president's power to fully dictate immigration in this country. This is nothing new at all. The media is just acting shocked to further a narrative. Trump's executive order will be held up by the Supreme Court and his efforts to protect this country will proceed apace and there is really nothing anyone can do about it.

 

[Rdcldad]

Miller is pretty much right about the president's power to fully dictate immigration in this country. This is nothing new at all. The media is just acting shocked to further a narrative. Trump's executive order will be held up by the Supreme Court and his efforts to protect this country will proceed apace and there is really nothing anyone can do about it.

sorry but scotus punts the EO ray guy like

 

[MegaPoke]

"The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

Thoughts?

Concerns?

Approval?

"Will not be questioned" = stupid. I suppose you could argue that the powers themselves - as in whether they exist or not - are substantial and will not be questioned in an existential sense, but it obviously comes off intentionally or otherwise as though the "further actions" are what will not be questioned, which they should be and obviously will be.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Asking for negative headlines

 

[purkey]

trumps gonna trump and that's a good thing in my book

the black robes will check his ass when need be

now the courts go the way of roberts and scotuscare then it gets nervy

exactly...he can't go too far off the reservation without someone guiding him back between the lines, so to speak. Too many checks and balances. Miller may also mean that they won't be questioned because they make perfect sense...

 

[PDT816]

Question everything.

 

[poke2001]

Poor choice of words at the end. May have been intentional, or just bad wording.

 

[CowboyJD]

Miller is pretty much right about the president's power to fully dictate immigration in this country. This is nothing new at all. The media is just acting shocked to further a narrative. Trump's executive order will be held up by the Supreme Court and his efforts to protect this country will proceed apace and there is really nothing anyone can do about it.

That's an approval.

No concern about "will not be questioned"? Now concern about not limiting his statement to dictating immigration and broadening to what he did?

As for the Supreme Court, they may end up not even looking at the TRO appeal. Heck, Trump may not even appeal it.

 

[CowboyJD]

Poor choice of words at the end. May have been intentional, or just bad wording.

Look up the video and decide whether it was intentional or not.

IMO, he stressed will not be questioned....to such an extent that I thought about bolding it in my post, but didn't want to be called hysterical. My view when watching it was that it was absolutely intentional....stressed even.

 

[CowboyJD]

"Will not be questioned" = stupid. I suppose you could argue that the powers themselves - as in whether they exist or not - are substantial and will not be questioned in an existential sense, but it obviously comes off intentionally or otherwise as though the "further actions" are what will not be questioned, which they should be and obviously will be.

Watching the video, it appeared to me that he definitely meant the further actions will not be question.

 

[CowboyJD]

exactly...he can't go too far off the reservation without someone guiding him back between the lines, so to speak. Too many checks and balances. Miller may also mean that they won't be questioned because they make perfect sense...

How do you feel about a President where your immediate thought is "he can't go too far off the reservation" due to the intervention of the courts....checks and balances.

 

[CowboyJD]

Question everything.

I agree.....wholeheartedly.

 

[CowboyJD]

I urge anyone questioning what he may have meant to find the video of him saying it, fairly evaluate it, and decide whether it's clear what he meant to mean.

I think it was....but I'm just one guy.

 

[cableok]

"The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

Thoughts?

Concerns?

Approval?

As others have stated the "will not be questioned" sounds ominous, especially in an edited vacuum.

However, immediately preceding what you quoted he was talking about how the "judiciary has taken too much power and become in many cases a supreme branch of government." He also said it was crazy for "one unelected judge in Seattle" to "remake laws for entire country".

Seems to me, with context, he was saying it is in the executive branch that has unquestioned power "under the Constitution, Article 2 foreign affairs power" (which he also mentioned 30 seconds before the statement originally quoted.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

As others have stated the "will not be questioned" sounds ominous, especially in an edited vacuum.

However, immediately preceding what you quoted he was talking about how the "judiciary has taken too much power and become in many cases a supreme branch of government." He also said it was crazy for "one unelected judge in Seattle" to "remake laws for entire country".

Seems to me, with context, he was saying it is in the executive branch that has unquestioned power "under the Constitution, Article 2 foreign affairs power" (which he also mentioned 30 seconds before the statement originally quoted.

This. The left can just get used to the fact that president Donald J Trump will basically be calling the shots on immigration for the next four to eight years.

 

[Ostatedchi]

How do you feel about a President where your immediate thought is "he can't go too far off the reservation" due to the intervention of the courts....checks and balances.

My thoughts are we have the government we deserve. Followed by a hearty 'meh'. Many a president in our past has pushed the bounds of presidential authority. This is no different. When FDR tried to pack the supreme court, he was rebuked. The supreme court rules 13 times that Obama overreached. Wilson forbade Chinese from working on the Panama Canal. Truman seized steel mills. Jefferson charged people with treason who violated the embargo act. John Adams supported the Aliens and Sedition act making political descent a deportable offense. Andrew Jackson censored the US mail. Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus.

So what do I think? The republic will stand as it has and will be better for it at the end of the process.

 

[MegaPoke]

This. The left can just get used to the fact that president Donald J Trump will basically be calling the shots on immigration for the next four to eight years.

And Conway after that. /trigger

 

[JimmyBob]

How do you feel about a President where your immediate thought is "he can't go too far off the reservation" due to the intervention of the courts....checks and balances.

Kenyan.

 

[CowboyJD]

As others have stated the "will not be questioned" sounds ominous, especially in an edited vacuum.

However, immediately preceding what you quoted he was talking about how the "judiciary has taken too much power and become in many cases a supreme branch of government." He also said it was crazy for "one unelected judge in Seattle" to "remake laws for entire country".

Seems to me, with context, he was saying it is in the executive branch that has unquestioned power "under the Constitution, Article 2 foreign affairs power" (which he also mentioned 30 seconds before the statement originally quoted.

Did you watch the video? In context?

Just wondering.

 

[CowboyJD]

This. The left can just get used to the fact that president Donald J Trump will basically be calling the shots on immigration for the next four to eight years.

He was talking in relation to the very checks and balances others have said they are relying on to keep him from going off the reservation then?

 

[CowboyJD]

My thoughts are we have the government we deserve. Followed by a hearty 'meh'. Many a president in our past has pushed the bounds of presidential authority. This is no different. When FDR tried to pack the supreme court, he was rebuked. The supreme court rules 13 times that Obama overreached. Wilson forbade Chinese from working on the Panama Canal. Truman seized steel mills. Jefferson charged people with treason who violated the embargo act. John Adams supported the Aliens and Sedition act making political descent a deportable offense. Andrew Jackson censored the US mail. Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus.

So what do I think? The republic will stand as it has and will be better for it at the end of the process.

Pro-authoritarian.

Check.

Was it better for it at the end of all the other examples you provided?

 

[Ostatedchi]

Not pro-authoritarian at all. I just have confidence in the checks and balances of the system. I'm not going to lose my shit over every small issue because it pushes the boundaries. At the end of the process, we have a better understanding of the boundaries and more confidence in the controls set forth in the constitution.

Call me pro-Constitution if you like. That's more my position.

 

[CowboyJD]

Not pro-authoritarian at all. I just have confidence in the checks and balances of the system. I'm not going to lose my shit over every small issue because it pushes the boundaries. At the end of the process, we have a better understanding of the boundaries and more confidence in the controls set forth in the constitution.

Call me pro-Constitution if you like. That's more my position.

Nobody's losing their shit.

Some his other statements clearly challenged the entire notion of checks and balances.

I agree that the Republic will survive, btw. I'm just not sure if we will be the better for it.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

During the Obama years, I wonder how many times a conservative judge could have issued a stay on one or more of Obama's executive orders regarding immigration? Answer: probably any time they wanted to had they been so inclined. It looks like a pro Cuban refugee judge could have issued a stay on Obama's ban on Cuban refugees and drug it out long enough for Trump to take office and thereby eliminate the Obama ban. But since when are the courts absolute boss?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

It's nothing unexpected. He brought this lady into the white house.

 

[CowboyJD]

During the Obama years, I wonder how many times a conservative judge could have issued a stay on one or more of Obama's executive orders regarding immigration? Answer: probably any time they wanted to had they been so inclined. It looks like a pro Cuban refugee judge could have issued a stay on Obama's ban on Cuban refugees and drug it out long enough for Trump to take office and thereby eliminate the Obama ban. But since when are the courts absolute boss?

When it comes to constitutional rule, since 1796-1803 thereabouts.

Checks and balances ya'll.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Looking back, I wish a judge had put a stay on Obama's decision to set the state of a Iran on a course to own and use nuclear weapons. Where's a willing judge when you need one?

 

[Headhunter]

Good grief remain calm people. All he was saying is that the actions would be 100% constitutional.

The hysteria is planned and deliberate, JD, Sys and David either are falling for it or are part of it.

 

[CowboyJD]

Good grief remain calm people. All he was saying is that the actions would be 100% constitutional.

The hysteria is planned and deliberate, JD, Sys and David either are falling for it or are part of it.

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I don't know if you are being ironic with this hysteria jab or you actually believe that bs.

I quoted the statement asked for thoughts and comments.

That's it.

A common refuge of the uncritical thinkers is to accuse critical thinkers of hysterics for asking questions.

 

[Headhunter]

I don't know if you are being ironic with this hysteria jab or you actually believe that bs.

I quoted the statement asked for thoughts and comments.

That's it.

A common refuge of the uncritical thinkers is to accuse critical thinkers of hysterics for asking questions.

You're 24/7 pushing media maters anti-Trump talking points. You may think you're a critical thinker but to me you're just another parrot of the left and there is no doubt the left is pushing hysteria in regards to this administration.

 

[CowboyJD]

You're 24/7 pushing media maters anti-Trump talking points. You may think you're a critical thinker but to me you're just another parrot of the left and there is no doubt the left is pushing hysteria in regards to this administration.

Sure thing cheerleader. Go ahead and stick with your everything is awesome, anything that questions anything Trump is a hysterical fake news liberal narrative. I'm sure you feel safer in that bubble of unquestioning adoration.

If I cared, I could post multiple posts supporting acts and decisions of Trump establishing how full of crap you are.

But I don't. So I won't.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

You're 24/7 pushing media maters anti-Trump talking points. You may think you're a critical thinker but to me you're just another parrot of the left and there is no doubt the left is pushing hysteria in regards to this administration.

Well how does someone question Biff or his policies without being a parrot?

 

[purkey]

How do you feel about a President where your immediate thought is "he can't go too far off the reservation" due to the intervention of the courts....checks and balances.

I like him stirring things up, making people think about things, creating opportunity, getting government out of the way, lessening the burden of government, he has so many avenues to go and correct it's going to put the right priorities in the correct position. He will make some mistakes but given time he will make things better. No doubt in my mind as they couldn't have been more stagnant. Of course, we do have transgender bathrooms and that's pretty important. I think everyone is tired of stupid.

 

[Rdcldad]

How do you feel about a President where your immediate thought is "he can't go too far off the reservation" due to the intervention of the courts....checks and balances.

obamacare went way off the reservation and watching Roberts rule like somebody got to him was real effin scary

so we've been down this road recently but the opposition wasn't breaking starbuks windows and trashing mcdonalds

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Yeah, not every president can roll things out as smoothly as Obama rolled out Obamacare.

 

[CowboyJD]

obamacare went way off the reservation and watching Roberts rule like somebody got to him was real effin scary

so we've been down this road recently but the opposition wasn't breaking starbuks windows and trashing mcdonalds

I was critical of Roberts decision when he made it.

I have repeatedly says folks breaking starbuks and trashing mcdonalds should be arrested and prosecuted.

So it seems we agree.

 

[Headhunter]

Sure thing cheerleader. Go ahead and stick with your everything is awesome, anything that questions anything Trump is a hysterical fake news liberal narrative. I'm sure you feel safer in that bubble of unquestioning adoration.

If I cared, I could post multiple posts supporting acts and decisions of Trump establishing how full of crap you are.

But I don't. So I won't.

The "I don't care" response. Must of hit a nerve. Here's you.