When asked if the results of the ejlection would be accepted ...
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Al Gore is still crying about the 2000 election...once again the liberal media and bootlickers get spastic about something they always do! Such hypocrites, but thankfully the media is there to remind the knuckle dragging low info voters that the liberals are pristine like Christ, and would never ever ever contest an election result or voters identification.
Um... maybe you should get your facts straight on 2000.
A legal recount was started and Bush sued to have it stopped. When the Florida courts extended the recount deadlines Bush, not Gore, appealed to the Supreme Court. When the Supreme Court stopped the count, Gore could have sued back and he said ok this is enough and pledged his support.
Typical uninformity created by those higher and mightier than the rest of us, clearly. But please, add some more personal attacks to your next post, since you know more facts than me.
A legal recount was started and Bush sued to have it stopped. When the Florida courts extended the recount deadlines Bush, not Gore, appealed to the Supreme Court. When the Supreme Court stopped the count, Gore could have sued back and he said ok this is enough and pledged his support.
Typical uninformity created by those higher and mightier than the rest of us, clearly. But please, add some more personal attacks to your next post, since you know more facts than me.
ah here ya go Major...www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000 If you need a summary please let me know!
I've never claimed to be mightier than everyone else you clown, in fact you said "since you know more facts than me" which seems to indicate that you are claiming to be smarter than everyone me and from other post many of the people here. Not a problem though hubris is an awesome thing to see.
Lets not forget that Al Franken probably won by fraud, www.forbes.com/sites/billfrezza/2012/08/08/sen-al-franken-voter-fraud-revelations-call-for-ways-to-reduce-it/#b8785bb488ff which gave the senate a 60 count filibuster proof margin and we got obysmal care from that.
Finally, why would he say anything other then he'll wait until the night of the election? He didn't say "I absolutely won't accept the results if I lose," he simply said he would wait. Geez, I'd say the same thing, and in the case of obvious voter fraud it ties his hands. Of course the Republican Party has already rolled up in the fetal position about the comment.
I've never claimed to be mightier than everyone else you clown, in fact you said "since you know more facts than me" which seems to indicate that you are claiming to be smarter than everyone me and from other post many of the people here. Not a problem though hubris is an awesome thing to see.
Lets not forget that Al Franken probably won by fraud, www.forbes.com/sites/billfrezza/2012/08/08/sen-al-franken-voter-fraud-revelations-call-for-ways-to-reduce-it/#b8785bb488ff which gave the senate a 60 count filibuster proof margin and we got obysmal care from that.
Finally, why would he say anything other then he'll wait until the night of the election? He didn't say "I absolutely won't accept the results if I lose," he simply said he would wait. Geez, I'd say the same thing, and in the case of obvious voter fraud it ties his hands. Of course the Republican Party has already rolled up in the fetal position about the comment.
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What actually occurred in FL was:
But has, since that time. claimed at various times that he actually won and has done nothing to douse the widespread claims that the election was stolen from him.
- the closeness of the election mandated a statewide machine recount.
- the Gore campaign request HAND recounts in three counties
- no errors were discovered in the initial mandated recount; i.e. Bush was the winner
- the Bush campaign then sued to stop additional recounts
- the Gore campaign then appealed to the FL Supreme Court to mandate manual recounts
- eventually the USSC stopped the recount -- 7 of 9 justices finding their were Equal Protection problems with the FLSC's orders and 5 of 9 finding there was sufficient time to develop a uniform standard process
- Gore reluctantly conceded
But has, since that time. claimed at various times that he actually won and has done nothing to douse the widespread claims that the election was stolen from him.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...e-reputations-of-our-candidates-76491792.html
"NEW YORK, Oct. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- At a private fund-raiser in Los Angeles
for Democratic Sen. Jean Carnahan of Missouri, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
told the crowd that President Bush merely had been "selected" president, not
elected, Newsweek reports in the current issue. "You know, I'm a fan of
Clintonomics," she told the crowd while standing from a perch on the staircase
of movie producer Alan Horn's art-filled Bel Air home, "and this
administration is destroying in months our eight years of economic progress."
"NEW YORK, Oct. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- At a private fund-raiser in Los Angeles
for Democratic Sen. Jean Carnahan of Missouri, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
told the crowd that President Bush merely had been "selected" president, not
elected, Newsweek reports in the current issue. "You know, I'm a fan of
Clintonomics," she told the crowd while standing from a perch on the staircase
of movie producer Alan Horn's art-filled Bel Air home, "and this
administration is destroying in months our eight years of economic progress."
"Um...maybe you should get your facts straight on 2000."
Is that all you two could come up with?
Is that all you two could come up with?
Correct. Gore's requests were legal and Bush did the suing. The recount was legal they just were idiots about it and took too long because its a bunch of knuckledraggers at the county level (I know; I've done it).
Therefore, Gore exercised his legally granted rights within the system. Trump just wants to disavow the system and say it doesn't work.
Can you not see the difference?
I think you are reading a lot of inference into a hypothetical question/answer that the other candidate was not even officially asked - and her unofficial answer (see OP) was pretty f-ing squirrely, and if looks could kill....
Way too much is being made of this. The guy got absolutely SCREWED by Bush and Kasich after signing a similar pledge. I wouldn't go on record until I see what bullshit someone tries to pull over the next two weeks either if I was him. Would you really?
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The recount, as directed by the Florida Supreme Court was, in fact, illegal.
The comparison to Trump vis-a-vis Gore, and moreso scores of Democrats and their media cheerleaders (including Hillary) is their reaction and comments AFTER THE FACT.
As a tactical decision, I think what Trump said was dumb. But, let's be real, it's much ado about NOTHING. And he never said he wouldn't accept the results of the election; he merely took the stance that he was keeping his options open. To me, and I don't support him, he would seem pretty disingenuous if he said now that he WOULD accept the results of the election, unconditionally.
The idea that what he is suggesting is either: [A] a wholly new concept or {B} beyond the realm of possibility given the shitty security of electronic voting machines, is laughable. He is just very poor at articulating specific points about the issue and will probably lose by enough that it won't come into play.
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What is the reason of this post? I only find it odd because right now there is a huge battle going on in my facebook feed about this that I have largely ignored.
I believe the implication is that RFK, Jr. says a lot of nutty things, which is absolutely true.
Nailed it. He is actually very convincing on mercury in vaccines, and I can see how he could sway people that don't have decent understanding of chemistry.
Rolling Stone also says nutty things.
It would have been so easy for Trump to handle that question without triggering all this controversy. He could have handled it 50 different and better ways, but he chose the defiant, provocative way instead of setting a presidential narrative. Another wholly unnecessary distraction.
He's a big boy, and he screwed it up. Not handling that question shows he's not politically or mentally or tactically light enough on his feet to handle the job. It's self inflicted. The POTUS has to have some fox along with the lion, and he can't just spout off like a drunk, senile uncle for this very reason. He either full well knew what he was saying, or he didn't appreciate the potential for that issue to spin out of control. Either is bad.
Personally, in the context of the question and given the obvious predictability of it, I think he communicated an intent to act dictatorial and not simply use the legal framework of our democracy to address voting irregularities.
He's a big boy, and he screwed it up. Not handling that question shows he's not politically or mentally or tactically light enough on his feet to handle the job. It's self inflicted. The POTUS has to have some fox along with the lion, and he can't just spout off like a drunk, senile uncle for this very reason. He either full well knew what he was saying, or he didn't appreciate the potential for that issue to spin out of control. Either is bad.
Personally, in the context of the question and given the obvious predictability of it, I think he communicated an intent to act dictatorial and not simply use the legal framework of our democracy to address voting irregularities.
What Gore did was legal; he used his legal rights to request something. The state court made an illegal decision, which was reversed by USSC.
What Trump is doing is #1 creating a doubt in the eyes of the people on the system, #2 encouraging armed citizens to show up at LOCAL polling places and COUNTY offices to "ensure voting integrity"
Do you REALLY think that people driving in from, let's say Idabel, to stand guard outside a local polling booth in Eastside 'to ensure voting integrity' is what we need right now?
What Trump is doing is #1 creating a doubt in the eyes of the people on the system, #2 encouraging armed citizens to show up at LOCAL polling places and COUNTY offices to "ensure voting integrity"
Do you REALLY think that people driving in from, let's say Idabel, to stand guard outside a local polling booth in Eastside 'to ensure voting integrity' is what we need right now?
So, let me see if I have this straight...
Trump says he would wait to see results before he accepted them. This is seen as an answer worthy of declaring him unfit for president. His public concerns have been the MSM , the Republican party, and potential voter fraud as being possible issues. Very logical concerns given the course of the presidential campaign seasons.
Hillary says Putin is to blame for hacking Dems emails and that he is working with/for Trump to influence the election, implying Trump has given full support or something. Hillary is fit to be president. There is zero evidence that has been made public that implicates Putin or Trump, or any combination. Trump's sarcasm is apparently all the evidence Hillary needs.
My conclusion based on what has been exposed as factual from both candidates...
One of them needs their head wrapped in acres of aluminum foil and a giant daily dose of Prolixin for schizo behavior. The other needs a year supply of kleenex. Hillary is going to look like a freak if she tries to match a pantsuit to that giant ball of aluminum.
Trump says he would wait to see results before he accepted them. This is seen as an answer worthy of declaring him unfit for president. His public concerns have been the MSM , the Republican party, and potential voter fraud as being possible issues. Very logical concerns given the course of the presidential campaign seasons.
Hillary says Putin is to blame for hacking Dems emails and that he is working with/for Trump to influence the election, implying Trump has given full support or something. Hillary is fit to be president. There is zero evidence that has been made public that implicates Putin or Trump, or any combination. Trump's sarcasm is apparently all the evidence Hillary needs.
My conclusion based on what has been exposed as factual from both candidates...
One of them needs their head wrapped in acres of aluminum foil and a giant daily dose of Prolixin for schizo behavior. The other needs a year supply of kleenex. Hillary is going to look like a freak if she tries to match a pantsuit to that giant ball of aluminum.
Again... Bush appealed to the SC, not Gore.
Therefore if you want to make a funny meme, the caption should be 'In 2000 Bush cried all the way to the Supreme Court. Which goes to chow you throwing a tantrum DOES get you everything you want.'
I hope you aren't trying to use a meme to support your Bush whining post. If you are, I won't waste my time getting in your way. If not, color me confused on what your point is.
Look, every keeps saying Gore sued to the SC. The meme says that. I am simply pointing out that is not true. Bush did the initial suing, Bush sued to the SC. I'm trying to keep the facts in line and y'all wanna fixate on the butterfly going across the yard.
Hear Ann Coulter yesterday and she reeled off numerous times democrats have whined about elections and actually gone to the courts to change the outcome. One was an Indiana US House race in the 80's where the declared winner was a republican, but the dems refused to seat him until the house (democratically controlled) got to count the ballots, and when the ballots were re-counted guess who won? Wasn't the Republican.
All the popular measures in CA that get passed and then overturned in court (9th district I think) because the democrats don't like the outcome.
So much about nothing as all he said is he would wait......
All the popular measures in CA that get passed and then overturned in court (9th district I think) because the democrats don't like the outcome.
So much about nothing as all he said is he would wait......
The Democrats and their lap dogs in the mainstream media spend an inordinate amount of time complaining that the Russians are trying to throw the election to Donald Trump, yet complain when Republicans talk about the possibility of rigged elections.
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