What is and isn't racism?

[AC_Exotic]

The Left is notorious for 1) rabid hypocrisy in demonizing other for supposedly doing what they they themselves are actually guilty of, and 2) redefining words to cover up their misdeeds. In the case of the term "racism," they do both simultaneously.

For clarity, let's define what Racism is and what it isn't. We need to stop feeling bad for the hypocritical, fraudulent accusations of socialists/Leftists/Democrats.

First:

1. Disagreeing about politics is not racism.
2. Pointing out real racial differences is not racism.
3. Even poking fun at our racial differences MAY not be racism (unless it's done to denigrate a race).
4. Criticizing a religion is not racism.
5. Criticizing a culture, cultural norms, or cultural behaviors is not racism.
6. Overlooking race and making a choice (e.g., hiring) based on merit is not racism.
7. Merely wanting to associate with those who are most like yourself is not racism.
8. Demanding that employees show up to work on time is not racism (yes, the Left has even posited this!).
9. Enforcing our immigration laws is not racism.
10. Expressing a personal opinion contrary to yours is not racism.

Well, if Racism isn't all those things the Left has said it is, what then is it?

Here's what Merriam-Webster says:

[Racism is] "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

Let's get this straight. RACE is NOT the primary determinant of human traits nor capabilities. There ARE some genetic differences between races, even medically, that may affect our traits (as a race) and capabilities (as individuals)--that's inarguable--but the PRIMARY determinant of those things is CULTURE.

Race is an inherent characteristic you cannot change. Culture is a characteristic that, although it will always be an influence on the individual, nevertheless it's effect on behavior can be altered.

We need to stop:

1. Listening to the constant whining from the Left about Racism.

2. Starting addressing CULTURAL issues that lead to poverty, crime, and other detriments to society.

 

[CBradSmith]

The Left is notorious for 1) rabid hypocrisy in demonizing other for supposedly doing what they they themselves are actually guilty of, and 2) redefining words to cover up their misdeeds. In the case of the term "racism," they do both simultaneously.

For clarity, let's define what Racism is and what it isn't. We need to stop feeling bad for the hypocritical, fraudulent accusations of socialists/Leftists/Democrats.

First:

1. Disagreeing about politics is not racism.
2. Pointing out real racial differences is not racism.
3. Even poking fun at our racial differences MAY not be racism (unless it's done to denigrate a race).
4. Criticizing a religion is not racism.
5. Criticizing a culture, cultural norms, or cultural behaviors is not racism.
6. Overlooking race and making a choice (e.g., hiring) based on merit is not racism.
7. Merely wanting to associate with those who are most like yourself is not racism.
8. Demanding that employees show up to work on time is not racism (yes, the Left has even posited this!).
9. Enforcing our immigration laws is not racism.
10. Expressing a personal opinion contrary to yours is not racism.

Well, if Racism isn't all those things the Left has said it is, what then is it?

Here's what Merriam-Webster says:

[Racism is] "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

Let's get this straight. RACE is NOT the primary determinant of human traits nor capabilities. There ARE some genetic differences between races, even medically, that may affect our traits (as a race) and capabilities (as individuals)--that's inarguable--but the PRIMARY determinant of those things is CULTURE.

Race is an inherent characteristic you cannot change. Culture is a characteristic that, although it will always be an influence on the individual, nevertheless it's effect on behavior can be altered.

We need to stop:

1. Listening to the constant whining from the Left about Racism.

2. Starting addressing CULTURAL issues that lead to poverty, crime, and other detriments to society.

"Shut up, Mr. Christian Man!!"

- Some random guy

 

[COWBOYintheUK]

The Left is notorious for 1) rabid hypocrisy in demonizing other for supposedly doing what they they themselves are actually guilty of, and 2) redefining words to cover up their misdeeds. In the case of the term "racism," they do both simultaneously.

For clarity, let's define what Racism is and what it isn't. We need to stop feeling bad for the hypocritical, fraudulent accusations of socialists/Leftists/Democrats.

First:

1. Disagreeing about politics is not racism.
2. Pointing out real racial differences is not racism.
3. Even poking fun at our racial differences MAY not be racism (unless it's done to denigrate a race).
4. Criticizing a religion is not racism.
5. Criticizing a culture, cultural norms, or cultural behaviors is not racism.
6. Overlooking race and making a choice (e.g., hiring) based on merit is not racism.
7. Merely wanting to associate with those who are most like yourself is not racism.
8. Demanding that employees show up to work on time is not racism (yes, the Left has even posited this!).
9. Enforcing our immigration laws is not racism.
10. Expressing a personal opinion contrary to yours is not racism.

Well, if Racism isn't all those things the Left has said it is, what then is it?

Here's what Merriam-Webster says:

[Racism is] "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

Let's get this straight. RACE is NOT the primary determinant of human traits nor capabilities. There ARE some genetic differences between races, even medically, that may affect our traits (as a race) and capabilities (as individuals)--that's inarguable--but the PRIMARY determinant of those things is CULTURE.

Race is an inherent characteristic you cannot change. Culture is a characteristic that, although it will always be an influence on the individual, nevertheless it's effect on behavior can be altered.

We need to stop:

1. Listening to the constant whining from the Left about Racism.

2. Starting addressing CULTURAL issues that lead to poverty, crime, and other detriments to society.

A lot of what you posted could be considered racism depending on the circumstances.......Tell you what.......anyone on here that is in charge of employees, go tell one of you African-American employees to "go back from where they came from", and see how long before you get a call from your HR department......you will get that call pretty quick.......
In the USAF we didn't seem to have these problems......you worked with , for and beside people of every religion, every race, and from many other countries, you did your job, they did theirs and everyone was rated and treated by how they performed that job....no other reason., people that refused to do that were discharged...its not that difficult of a concept

 

[HighStickHarry]

A lot of what you posted could be considered racism depending on the circumstances.......Tell you what.......anyone on here that is in charge of employees, go tell one of you African-American employees to "go back from where they came from", and see how long before you get a call from your HR department......you will get that call pretty quick.......
In the USAF we didn't seem to have these problems......you worked with , for and beside people of every religion, every race, and from many other countries, you did your job, they did theirs and everyone was rated and treated by how they performed that job....no other reason., people that refused to do that were discharged...its not that difficult of a concept

The Air Force isn’t the real world. They have the highest standard for the military entry test and there are strict and swift consequences for getting out of line. So basically it’s smart people, without a criminal background held to a disciplinary standard above and beyond the rest of the world.

Wow, you get along.

 

[purkey]

what if I tell a white German to go back to where they came from....?...or an Irishmen, or a Russian, or a Bahamian, or whatever. I worked with all kinds as well but when they start calling me names and insulting me then things begin to change. Trumps comments were not racially specific...if you don't like it here go back to where you came from...wherever that may be. He didn't call out anything racist. By now everyone knows their angle and their intent. It's pretty weak and lame.

 

[Ostatedchi]

Racism is actions against a person or group stemming from pejorative biases based on race. (I like my definition better.)

 

[HighStickHarry]

its Spiraled out of control. Too often it’s the argument of weak minded people. It’s so soothing and righteous for white lib to use it as a moral separation. As if attacking all Christians or conservatives in the same way is some how morally superior. Toon’s jackass does this all the time, but doesn’t skip a beat.

In my opinion,
Racism involves an irrational hate and the expectation that a certain race has a ceiling. Being annoyed by cultural differences is not racism. Watch the original Kings of comedy discuss the differences between whites and blacks. Only a weak minded person black or white would assume that all people fall into the categories described. Or that the person discussing it assumes that.

It’s too late for any nuance. You have to just know who you are talking to. I know whites, blacks and Indians who call each other the n word as a friendly greeting. American blacks talk shit about Africans the same way Reagan did. We have to be able to judge the hate ingredient and to be honest that’s really hard.

 

[CBradSmith]

The Left depends on the loosest interpretation (and definition) of "racism" possible.

That puts the power of the Left fundamentally at odds with a peaceful and happy social fabric of the nation.

 

[AC_Exotic]

A lot of what you posted could be considered racism depending on the circumstances.......Tell you what.......anyone on here that is in charge of employees, go tell one of you African-American employees to "go back from where they came from", and see how long before you get a call from your HR department......you will get that call pretty quick.......
In the USAF we didn't seem to have these problems......you worked with , for and beside people of every religion, every race, and from many other countries, you did your job, they did theirs and everyone was rated and treated by how they performed that job....no other reason., people that refused to do that were discharged...its not that difficult of a concept

Where did you get anything about me telling someone to "go back where you came from?"

I agree with Mom's assessment that a man should be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.

Now, pray tell what in my post would be considered racism?

 

[22LR]

...anyone on here that is in charge of employees, go tell one of you African-American employees to "go back from where they came from",

Good thread started. Then angry lib shows up.

 

[MegaPoke]

A lot of what you posted could be considered racism depending on the circumstances.......Tell you what.......anyone on here that is in charge of employees, go tell one of you African-American employees to "go back from where they came from", and see how long before you get a call from your HR department......you will get that call pretty quick.......
In the USAF we didn't seem to have these problems......you worked with , for and beside people of every religion, every race, and from many other countries, you did your job, they did theirs and everyone was rated and treated by how they performed that job....no other reason., people that refused to do that were discharged...its not that difficult of a concept

Pretty sure saying that to anyone of any race would get you fired. “Where you came from” is not racially specific - obviously.

Watch this.

@COWBOYintheUK go back to Liverpool you limey bastard.

See?

 

[CBradSmith]

Where did you get anything about me telling someone to "go back where you came from?"

I agree with Mom's assessment that a man should be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.

Now, pray tell what in my post would be considered racism?

Only the afflicted can see it.

Don't even try Mr. Christian Man.

 

[Ostatedchi]

I like my definition because its agnostic towards the actions or the race. And the actions don't have to be against the person of opposite race. Also, the actions aren't measured by the desired outcome either. The actions can be well intentioned but racist in nature none the less.

White guilt = racism towards your own race
Racial equalization quotas = well intentioned racism
Social Justice Warriors for race = racist assholes (okay, I added the assholes part)
Recognizing the wrongs of the past in an attempt to understand the problems in order to not repeat them = not racist.
Judging actions in the past against changing social norms of the present doesn't make those actions that would otherwise be racist today out to be racist at that past time.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Let’s test this.

Indians are always late. Its called Indian time.


Racist?

 

[Ostatedchi]

Let’s test this.

Indians are always late. Its called Indian time.


Racist?

How are you making that thought into actions? Can't judge otherwise.

 

[HighStickHarry]

How are you making that thought into actions? Can't judge otherwise.

Scenario 1:
I say it to a black coworker and we are by ourselves

Scenario 2:
I say it to a white stranger in front of a group of Native American high schoolers

Scenario 3:
I say it to my friend who is 1/2 Native American.

 

[Medic007]

The Left is notorious for 1) rabid hypocrisy in demonizing other for supposedly doing what they they themselves are actually guilty of, and 2) redefining words to cover up their misdeeds. In the case of the term "racism," they do both simultaneously.

For clarity, let's define what Racism is and what it isn't. We need to stop feeling bad for the hypocritical, fraudulent accusations of socialists/Leftists/Democrats.

First:

1. Disagreeing about politics is not racism.
2. Pointing out real racial differences is not racism.
3. Even poking fun at our racial differences MAY not be racism (unless it's done to denigrate a race).
4. Criticizing a religion is not racism.
5. Criticizing a culture, cultural norms, or cultural behaviors is not racism.
6. Overlooking race and making a choice (e.g., hiring) based on merit is not racism.
7. Merely wanting to associate with those who are most like yourself is not racism.
8. Demanding that employees show up to work on time is not racism (yes, the Left has even posited this!).
9. Enforcing our immigration laws is not racism.
10. Expressing a personal opinion contrary to yours is not racism.

Well, if Racism isn't all those things the Left has said it is, what then is it?

Here's what Merriam-Webster says:

[Racism is] "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

Let's get this straight. RACE is NOT the primary determinant of human traits nor capabilities. There ARE some genetic differences between races, even medically, that may affect our traits (as a race) and capabilities (as individuals)--that's inarguable--but the PRIMARY determinant of those things is CULTURE.

Race is an inherent characteristic you cannot change. Culture is a characteristic that, although it will always be an influence on the individual, nevertheless it's effect on behavior can be altered.

We need to stop:

1. Listening to the constant whining from the Left about Racism.

2. Starting addressing CULTURAL issues that lead to poverty, crime, and other detriments to society.

 

[iasooner1]

"Throw it back" ! Bastard just stands there watching his 'heroic effort'

 

[CBradSmith]

 

[OKSTATE1]

Bottom line is this, words are so shallow. Actual actions and deeds means so much more. Dims do not get this, all about words and no evaluation of actual actions.

People today like to twist people’s words in to something that in their mind they never intended to convey, and it is the listener at times listening with the glass half full and looking to create racism where none exists that is the most believed.

The listener’s heart is given more credence than the person who is speaking, how phucked up is that? It is evil IMO to assume due to a person having white skin that an alternate standard applies and that only people of color get to judge what is racist. It is political correctness BS and the Dims move the standards literally based on who is talking on a day to day basis, by the second.

What is in people’s hearts is what matters. Who in the phuck was anointed god and given the right to judge so called racist talk when none was ever attended and clearly can not be automatically construed as racist and never resided in the heart of the speaker?

God gets to judge what is in the heart, I KNOW what is in my heart when I speak, but most of all my daily actions and deeds defines if one is racist or not. Actions and deeds, not words.

The judgmental POS’s with the arrogance to act like they know more and better what a person “really meant” when someone speaks can go to hell, seriously, arrogant and condescending POS’s that want to hush free speech and hide by a false accusation of racism.

God is who judges evil and the intentions of ones heart, not humans looking to parse every single
word in to the most evil intent to prove racism.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

AC2017 gets it.

I'm a USAF veteran

A racist is one who sees a skin color as superior to another.

Baseless racist charges is MO for the left.

If AC2017 should declare Obama an economic and foreign policy disaster, such does not make AC2017 racist.

I once watched a white guy state cold hard fact. "Equatorial Guinea has the lowest average IQ in the world." You all know the left's quick reaction.

I know how to pick out racists. I'm good at it. I don't see any here. Sorry, left leaning.

The guy on another site that sometimes talks about blacks degrading our education system after desegregation is a racist.

 

[JimmyBob]

Bottom line is this, words are so shallow. Actual actions and deeds means so much more. Dims do not get this, all about words and no evaluation of actual actions.

This says it all!

 

[aliabedi]

I like my definition because its agnostic towards the actions or the race. And the actions don't have to be against the person of opposite race. Also, the actions aren't measured by the desired outcome either. The actions can be well intentioned but racist in nature none the less.

White guilt = racism towards your own race
Racial equalization quotas = well intentioned racism
Social Justice Warriors for race = racist assholes (okay, I added the assholes part)
Recognizing the wrongs of the past in an attempt to understand the problems in order to not repeat them = not racist.
Judging actions in the past against changing social norms of the present doesn't make those actions that would otherwise be racist today out to be racist at that past time.

You wouldn't understand because you do not belong to a race being discriminated against. I have noticed on this board how insecure every one gets if they are called a racist, yes to some extent racism exists in America but it is not the KKK type of racism which is wide spread it maybe just superiority complex.
I think racial equality quotas are still required even though situation has definitely improved and getting better.since I was there.

Special attention towards education in poor minority areas is definitely required.
What happened in california or in texas yesterday were racist acts of extreme
and I wonder where are they getting their feed from.

 

[Breastman]

Mr. Indian, interesting perspective.

What are your honest thoughts regarding the idea of ‘white privilege’? Do you think this is liberal silliness or are there instances where white folks clearly get a pass? How do feel when white mass shooters - like the moron today in El Paso - walks out alive? Does that feel like a personal insult or does it have no effect on you whatsoever?

Thanks for joining the board, sir.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Mr. Indian, interesting perspective.

What are your honest thoughts regarding the idea of ‘white privilege’? Do you think this is liberal silliness or are there instances where white folks clearly get a pass? How do feel when white mass shooters - like the moron today in El Paso - walks out alive? Does that feel like a personal insult or does it have no effect on you whatsoever?

Thanks for joining the board, sir.

I think white people, generally speaking 'get a pass' for merit, character.
Not because of the melanin in their skin.

If I, a white guy, had a felony record, I'd have a hell of a time getting a job too.

It's not as complicated as the race baiters would have you believe.

 

[aliabedi]

Mr. Indian, interesting perspective.

What are your honest thoughts regarding the idea of ‘white privilege’? Do you think thirms is liberal silliness or are there instances where white folks clearly get a pass? How do feel when white mass shooters - like the moron today in El Paso - walks out alive? Does that feel like a personal insult or does it have no effect on you whatsoever?

Thanks for joining the board, sir.

Well I really was not discriminated against in the work place so I couldn't really give you
an opinion in the first person. Most of the pakistanis in the US are well placed and well educated and not being black or latinos have minimum discrimination.
But does discrimination exists in the US sure it does, it is human to cling to your own kind and form small cliques. It is also human for a larger stronger group to look down upon on smaller groups. So yes it is there but to think that immigrants or minorities are taking jobs from the majority is ludicrous.Most of the jobs poor immigrants take nobody on this board would even consider.
Yes there is white privilege to some extent but barriers are being broken down every day. Biggest barrier was broken down was when Obama became the president and it was a shock to many specially to what may be Trumps base today.
Obama was hardly a leftist he was a centrist,his affordable health care act was taken from Heritage Foundation (hardly a bastion for leftist policies) he was rather ruthless
as far as illegal immigrants were considered.All his other policies were not radically leftist but trying to be more inclusive for the minorities.
He is condemned on this board as if he was Stalin or Mao.
By the way the new approach for afghan peace process taken by Trump and his team is also from Heritage Foundation.
Also I have posted a lot more than you have and by a majority I am a leftist.

 

[Toonsback4morwinning]

I think white people, generally speaking 'get a pass' for merit, character.
Not because of the melanin in their skin.

If I, a white guy, had a felony record, I'd have a hell of a time getting a job too.

It's not as complicated as the race baiters would have you believe.

True/false: police racial profiling exists.

 

[OKSTATE1]

True/false: police racial profiling exists.

So, in the 60’s when the KKK was committing crimes against African Americans, was it racial profiling to look for white men as suspects?

 

[Breastman]

Interesting question.

Was it naturally assumed that every white man driving down the road in the 1960’s was a member of the KKK?

 

[OUSOONER67]

I once watched Chris Rock in Concert. He said during his show he did not understand why black folk were always complaining about how bad it is for them in America. He went on to say that he did not see any of them getting on ships and going back to Africa. The crowd of mostly Blacks were silent. The truth hurts sometimes and the truth is not Racist its just that, the truth.

 

[aliabedi]

I once watched Chris Rock in Concert. He said during his show he did not understand why black folk were always complaining about how bad it is for them in America. He went on to say that he did not see any of them getting on ships and going back to Africa. The crowd of mostly Blacks were silent. The truth hurts sometimes and the truth is not Racist its just that, the truth.

Great example. You are part of the problem not the solution.

 

[22LR]

...but to think that immigrants or minorities are taking jobs from the majority is ludicrous.Most of the jobs poor immigrants take nobody on this board would even consider.

It works like this. Get a bunch of immigrants in here. More than a bunch. Get millions and millions of immigrants in here. Have them apply for $8.50 an hour... assembly jobs... push the button jobs... ...warehouse jobs... ...office jobs... ...construction jobs, etc. They live 4 to 6 employees to the apartment and all show up in the same car for work. Evil white man (or Americans of any color) can't work for $8.50 an hour, so they won't even consider applying.

The only thing "ludicrous" here is an ignorant Paki (who lives in Pakistan), telling a bunch of Americans the way it is.

 

[aliabedi]

It works like this. Get a bunch of immigrants in here. More than a bunch. Get millions and millions of immigrants in here. Have them apply for $8.50 an hour... assembly jobs... push the button jobs... ...warehouse jobs... ...office jobs... ...construction jobs, etc. They live 4 to 6 employees to the apartment and all show up in the same car for work. Evil white man (or Americans of any color) can't work for $8.50 an hour, so they won't even consider applying.

The only thing "ludicrous" here is an ignorant Paki (who lives in Pakistan), telling a bunch of Americans the way it is.

Isn't it great may be one day you wouls understand it. Remember how offended oklahomans were when someone called them okie

 

[aliabedi]

More over who is offering them these jobs at these ludicrous wages must be other illegal immigrants.

 

[windriverrange]

Well I really was not discriminated against in the work place so I couldn't really give you
an opinion in the first person. Most of the pakistanis in the US are well placed and well educated and not being black or latinos have minimum discrimination.
But does discrimination exists in the US sure it does, it is human to cling to your own kind and form small cliques. It is also human for a larger stronger group to look down upon on smaller groups. So yes it is there but to think that immigrants or minorities are taking jobs from the majority is ludicrous.Most of the jobs poor immigrants take nobody on this board would even consider.
Yes there is white privilege to some extent but barriers are being broken down every day. Biggest barrier was broken down was when Obama became the president and it was a shock to many specially to what may be Trumps base today.
Obama was hardly a leftist he was a centrist,his affordable health care act was taken from Heritage Foundation (hardly a bastion for leftist policies) he was rather ruthless
as far as illegal immigrants were considered.All his other policies were not radically leftist but trying to be more inclusive for the minorities.
He is condemned on this board as if he was Stalin or Mao.
By the way the new approach for afghan peace process taken by Trump and his team is also from Heritage Foundation.
Also I have posted a lot more than you have and by a majority I am a leftist.

The ex-rodent in chief a “centrist?” You sir are out of your freakin mind! Anyone that says “they/he wants to fundamentally change” a country is not a centrist.

Neither does anyone consider him to be Maoist or Stalinist, he was and will always be a jive talking left wing slacker who was given more passes by the left and media than all leftist previously. His policies were ruinous, generally a waste of money and duplicitous. His lies and missteps were covered up quicker than car shit in a litter box, by the media, sycophants and lackey acolytes.

I agree that schools in all the poorer parts of the country/inner cities should be better managed, but is that a federal deal or local? If it’s local than one needs to look no further than who manages/runs/elected to manage that area.

The scam healthcare law was not a Heritage Foundation shake and bake. In fact it was designed to fail and inculcate the takeover of the whole system by a bunch of political whores who at best are vastly and wholly ineffective and at worst traitorous scumbags who hourly abrogate their sworn obligations to their first priority which is taking care of the country/citizens and not for power of their respective party.

Until this discussion becomes more about an equitable distribution of responsibility/blame it will never be completely solved. Until the term “racist” is used to justly identify a racist and not as political leverage or a battering ram to illicit silence or even worse compliance than we will continue to see the same outcomes we see today. I personally could care less if you or anyone else saw me as racist btw.

Trump would have and never could have survived in the business world by being a racist, especially in the hospitality industry. It’s amazing how now after all those years and by shocking the whole slug infested political world he has become one now. What’s worse is how badly the media and leftos peddle that crap to discredit his whole effort to improve this country for every single citizen.

 

[aliabedi]

The ex-rodent in chief a “centrist?” You sir are out of your freakin mind! Anyone that says “they/he wants to fundamentally change” a country is not a centrist.

Neither does anyone consider him to be Maoist or Stalinist, he was and will always be a jive talking left wing slacker who was given more passes by the left and media than all leftist previously. His policies were ruinous, generally a waste of money and duplicitous. His lies and missteps were covered up quicker than car shit in a litter box, by the media, sycophants and lackey acolytes.

I agree that schools in all the poorer parts of the country/inner cities should be better managed, but is that a federal deal or local? If it’s local than one needs to look no further than who manages/runs/elected to manage that area.

The scam healthcare law was not a Heritage Foundation shake and bake. In fact it was designed to fail and inculcate the takeover of the whole system by a bunch of political whores who at best are vastly and wholly ineffective and at worst traitorous scumbags who hourly abrogate their sworn obligations to their first priority which is taking care of the country/citizens and not for power of their respective party.

Until this discussion becomes more about an equitable distribution of responsibility/blame it will never be completely solved. Until the term “racist” is used to justly identify a racist and not as political leverage or a battering ram to illicit silence or even worse compliance than we will continue to see the same outcomes we see today. I personally could care less if you or anyone else saw me as racist btw.

Trump would have and never could have survived in the business world by being a racist, especially in the hospitality industry. It’s amazing how now after all those years and by shocking the whole slug infested political world he has become one now. What’s worse is how badly the media and leftos peddle that crap to discredit his whole effort to improve this country for every single citizen.

Please check on Heritage Foundation,I have read it from several different sources some being conservative or republicans.
Trump ran a private family owned company, with few executives besides the family. Please name one important person in his organization who was of color and please don't say the doorman at the trump towers.

 

[windriverrange]

Mr. Indian, interesting perspective.

What are your honest thoughts regarding the idea of ‘white privilege’? Do you think this is liberal silliness or are there instances where white folks clearly get a pass? How do feel when white mass shooters - like the moron today in El Paso - walks out alive? Does that feel like a personal insult or does it have no effect on you whatsoever?

Thanks for joining the board, sir.

Breastman the whole “most mass shooters are white guys” canard is a lie also. There are a litany of examples, every day, in cities across this country where there are mass shootings are perpetrated by someone other than a WASP.

Personally I would have been completely fine with the LE members shooting down the moron in El Paso yesterday. But they did their job and neutralized the threat. The political and media buzzards are already pecking away at the dead regardless.

Is having quotas (employment, school etc) not something other than “white privilege?” If people want to feel guilty about being white more power to them, I’m not going down that path nor would I want to see anyone of any race subscribe to that. I’m still mystified at what passes for lack of personal responsibility these days. Can promise you if I miss car, house or credit card payments no one is going to give a crap about my skin color.

If you want to look at the bases for lack of opportunity, that’s deeper than skin color as well and was completely motivated by political calculations.

 

[windriverrange]

Please check on Heritage Foundation,I have read it from several different sources some being conservative or republicans.
Trump ran a private family owned company, with few executives besides the family. Please name one important person in his organization who was of color and please don't say the doorman at the trump towers.

Sorry kemo sabe that ain’t how this works....you say the Heritage Foundation wrote the guts of that bill, you provide the link.

You’re comment about the doorman already shows you’ve judged myself and Trump. It’s very common to surround yourself with family members in business btw. Again, you believe this nonsense, so bring some food to the table. BTW I don’t follow anyone closely enough to know who they have as partners in business, play or love. The larger view here is if he were racist it would have showed up long before Twitter hit the scene.

 

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Sorry kemo sabe that ain’t how this works....you say the Heritage Foundation wrote the guts of that bill, you provide the link.

You’re comment about the doorman already shows you’ve judged myself and Trump. It’s very common to surround yourself with family members in business btw. Again, you believe this nonsense, so bring some food to the table. BTW I don’t follow anyone closely enough to know who they have as partners in business, play or love. The larger view here is if he were racist it would have showed up long before Twitter hit the scene.

To judge a person look at his character and past and you can predict most of his actions in the future. Name some one who invested with Trump who made a profit out of that investment. In fact in the early nineties I had a chance meetin with Rudi and asked him about Trump since I had read art of deal recently and his question was I wasn'y going to invest with him.
Whether Trump is a racist I really don't know but his rhetoric definitely is.
The first time the idea of affordable care act was considered as a bill the sponsors were Dole and Mcain real leftist politicians.

 

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