Well, well, well. Biff tried to get Comey to drop the Flynn investigation.
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"While the president has repeatedly expressed his view that General Flynn is a decent man who served and protected our country, the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn,” the statement said. “The president has the utmost respect for our law enforcement agencies, and all investigations. This is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey.”
Maybe we should go to the tapes.
Maybe we should go to the tapes.
Carlos slim only owns 17% of the A Class shares, which only can vote on a 1/3 of the board seats. So no it isn't his blog.Why do you like Carlos Slim's blog?
"While the president has repeatedly expressed his view that General Flynn is a decent man who served and protected our country, the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn,” the statement said. “The president has the utmost respect for our law enforcement agencies, and all investigations. This is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey.”
Maybe we should go to the tapes.
Or Comey's notes. FBI agents notes are accepted as credible testimony.
Rep. Schiff is on TV right now saying that Comey needs to be brought back to testify to either the judiciary or intelligence committee in an open session. Also, saying that the notes taken by Comey and any tapes should be handed over to Congress or Congress should subpoena them.
All of the frantic alarm has me exhausted. Too many cries of wolf. Will this one pan out? If Comey has the goods, we the public demand that he give those goods up. These anonymous sourced things seem to go the route of OU football. In the beginning of the season, OU fans are screaming this is the one, only for reality to come in during the season with the reality bitchslap that only reality can provide, OU chokes again.
Why do you like Carlos Slim's blog?
You know that fact exist independent from the messenger?
And what is wrong with Carlos? Is he weak on potions and ancient magicke?
Oh I agree to an extent. I'm tired of it too, and ive callled for a while now that nothing will happen to him from congress. If his henchmen get indicted, so? The Biffsniffers won't care.
What I'd like to know is if Trump is listening to anyone's advice? One reason a President has political advisors is so to avoid the mess Trump is creating for himself. Especially one who has such little experience with how Washington works as Trump has.
Is Trump allowing any of his advisors to actually advise him or does he just think he can do this without any help? If he is listening to advice, Trump has some lousy advisors. If he isn't listening, his arrogance very well may his undoing.
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Liberals please point us in the direction of your bill/lynch tarmac meeting threads. Thanks.
Kind of like Obama and Hillary and their ass sniffers? Washington is full of scandals regardless of party affiliation. It's that blind party affiliation that keeps allowing this shit to keep brewing.
Was Bill the President at the time? Are there claims of evidence from Lynch saying Bill pressured her to back off an investigation?
Do you enjoy engaging in deflection?
Just going be the annoying guy by pointing out that the conservatives aren't treating these two situations particularly consistently either.
I thoroughly enjoy the unintentional comedy watching you and the house libs expect anyone to take you seriously when you ignore improper engagements in federal investigations from your side and also today's new found interest in securing classified information. You are a fvcking joke.
We know Trump met with Comey at least three times to inquire about the investigation because Trump himself told us so.
We also have this from the other thread from one of the esteemed board conservatives....
The problem with your deflective hypothesis is that Lynch wasn't fired, Bill wasn't President, and you have no evidence that Bill pressured Lynch to do anything. All you have is what you think happened (based on your dislike of the Clintons).
Should Lynch have met with Clinton? No. And I recall many liberals saying exactly that at the time. Even Lynch later regretted it.
But hey, anything to keep from talking about the mess Trump is in huh?
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What is it that you want? You guys have melted down over it umpteen times and libs didn't bitch and moan about it -- if it was wrong then it was wrong. I don't even know the specifics or what the clinton lynch thing was about.
Harry, I didn't defend it, I was simply tuned out. Every time I stopped and invested time in looking up one of the whipped-up scandal it was silly, like stinkfinger666 or the jew shadow in nz's tweet. It's either something ridiculous or just untrue, and it's been like that for years. Jade Helm. Remember that one? The birther thing was the best. The refusal to swear on a bible, refusal to wear a flag pin, kenya birth, death panels, communist teachers, college transcript (really?), bust bullshit and alarmism and it was over the top from day one. McConnell even said defeating Obama was his #1 goal. It gets tuned out.
One of the beautiful poetries of the universe is watching conservatives harp on everything Obama and then whine when Biff's much worse conduct is pointed out. Obama's entire 2 terms were cleaner than the first 4 months of Biff.
Suuuuuuuuure........ The rest is chicken clucking background noise that I didn't read. Thanks for putting this gem toward the beginning of your post.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/16/gregg-jarrett-comeys-revenge-is-gun-without-powder.html
"Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.
So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it."
Not ever. Trump has actually accomplished something since 2000.
28 USC 1361 is the mandamus jurisdiction statute for federal courts. In no way says anything like what this guys is saying.
18 USC 4 states:
"Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
I didn't researched the cases interpreting who is an "other person in civil authority", but my educated guess/bet is that Comey himself is such a "person in civil authority". The term "civil authority" typically refers to civil (as opposed to military) authority to enforce law and order.....in other words law enforcement.
Basically that's a statute that requires someone having knowledge of a federal felony to report the same to law enforcement or a judge. We'll leave my opinion of the constitutionality of that for some other day.
So I don't necessarily agree with his analysis from the get go. Then he goes further and says "So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ?"
I haven't seen a quote from Comey saying he believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice and there are several other reasons why he might not report it immediately or otherwise:
1. When the memo was written it didn't clearly establish a pattern of conduct constituting obstruction, but it memorialized the discussion should further efforts to influence the investigation be forthcoming. In and of itself, it doesn't establish obstruction of justice, but might be relevant in context of future behavior.
2. He wanted to follow up with further investigation of what the intent actually was in Trump asking what he did.
3. Heck, it could be just to document that discussions between Trump and Comey were exceedingly different in tone and content than Trump's tweets and fake news claims.
4. Hell, it could have even been to protect himself in the future from claims by Trump as to the nature of conversations he had with Comey that might not be true....and there would be nothing wrong with that.
5. Finally, it could be that it was just his practice to document contemporaneously any discussions or contacts he had to the investigative file for future reference should he be asked or if there was a contention by someone that there had been no contact. Comey is known for doing this, it's pretty common to do this in many LE agencies, and it's a good idea to do so in my opinion.
That's just my two cents.
As always, thanks for the educated and well thought out response. I'll take your knowledge and experience over a talking head any day.
If Comey did experience an attempt to shut down the investigation of Flynn, I hope he squeals like a pig. Any attempt to undermine our system of justice is worthy of removal from office, regardless of party etc. I don't want Pence to become President for a variety of good reasons, but if Trump actually tried to urge Comey to sweep shit under the rug, he needs the boot kicking his ass out of office.
Biff picked fights with:
1. DOJ
2. FBI
3. Intel community
4. McCain,
5. Graham,
6. Bushes,
7. Clintons,
8. Obamas
9. Mr. Universe
10. Generals
11. N.Y. Times
12. Washington Post
13. CNN
14. MSNBC
15. Romsney
16. Merkel
17. ???
That's not an effective POTUS.
1. DOJ
2. FBI
3. Intel community
4. McCain,
5. Graham,
6. Bushes,
7. Clintons,
8. Obamas
9. Mr. Universe
10. Generals
11. N.Y. Times
12. Washington Post
13. CNN
14. MSNBC
15. Romsney
16. Merkel
17. ???
That's not an effective POTUS.
"The president has the utmost respect for our law enforcement agencies, and all investigations," the White House said.
Can we all agree this isn't entirely true?
His tweets certainly haven't reflected the utmost respect for the FBI Russian counterintelligence investigation, right?
Can we all agree this isn't entirely true?
His tweets certainly haven't reflected the utmost respect for the FBI Russian counterintelligence investigation, right?
Sure it isn't entirely true. However, I'd be willing to bet a dollar that in Trump's mind, he thinks he does have the utmost respect for these agencies and that he sees himself as the hero of law enforcement.
Not a surprising statement though by the White House. What else were they going to say?
Besides all that, doesn't giving the memo to other members of the FBI fulfill his obligation to report to civil authorities?
A required element of misprision of felony is an affirmative step to conceal. Simple failure to disclose does not satisfy the element. Therefore, it would have to be shown that Comey committed some positive act designed to conceal from authorities any felonies Trump committed. Not just that Comey was merely silent or didn't disclose.
From what we know at this point, Comey did not violate 18 USC 4. There is no evidence that he took an affirmative step designed specifically to conceal what Trump said from authorities.
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I would say so.
The article started off with the flawed premise that he has a statutory duty to report any felony crime he discovers in an investigation to the AG's office and the entire argument is based on that flawed premise.
