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Vote: Biggest threat to the US

Biggest threat to the US?

  • ISIS

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Systemic Racism

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • North Korea

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Russia

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Corrupt Polical System

    Votes: 28 57.1%
  • Other (Post your choice)

    Votes: 15 30.6%

  • Total voters
    49
I heard them. That sucks. I can't imagine how hard that is.

Exactly, and neither can I. I had advantages granted to me early in life that she didn't. When I was 12-15, I wasn't experiencing what she was experiencing. Nor was someone like Ivanka Trump. Or Chelsea Clinton. Or you.

She was born into poverty (not her choice) and then her situation got worse before she had any real control over it.

"At some point you jump the hurdle" may be true for you based on your experiences, but not true for someone who has a completely different set of experiences.
 
Exactly, and neither can I. I had advantages granted to me early in life that she didn't. When I was 12-15, I wasn't experiencing what she was experiencing. Nor was someone like Ivanka Trump. Or Chelsea Clinton. Or you.

She was born into poverty and then her situation got worse before she had any control over it.

"At some point you jump the hurdle" may be a reality that is true for you, but not true for someone who hasn't experienced your reality.

If you have pets, drink and smoke you don't want to get out of poverty. One kid out of wedlock? Ok. Two? Three? Come on lib wake up.
 
If you have pets, drink and smoke you don't want to get out of poverty. One kid out of wedlock? Ok. Two? Three? Come on lib wake up.

And come on con, wake up.

You yourself said it best: "I can't imagine how hard that is." And yet, you keep applying your reality and experiences upon her reality and experiences. You aren't trying to understand, instead, you are judging her based on your reality and experiences.

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Why didn't she join the military?

lol, she couldn't join the military till she was 18. Did you miss all that had happened to her before she was 18?

Do you even know what hopelessness feels like and what it produces? Visit a homeless shelter for a day and talk to the people there. Listen to their stories.
 
And come on con, wake up.

You yourself said it best: "I can't imagine how hard that is." And yet, you keep applying your reality and experiences upon her reality and experiences. You aren't trying to understand, instead, you are judging her based on your reality and experiences.

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I don't only have my reality. I have a ton to look upon. My dad grew up poor. Now? Vice President and part owner of the business he works for. When I was born? Worked his way from sweeping floors to manager of a local feed store. The guy just kept getting promoted I assume because of his white penis no other reason could be possible. He did not drink. He did not smoke. He had a Popsicle stick taped to his glasses in high school because that's all they could afford. Definitely no full scholarship to college. Give me a real example of someone stuck in poverty.
 
lol, she couldn't join the military till she was 18. Did you miss all that had happened to her before she was 18?

Do you even know what hopelessness feels like and what it produces? Visit a homeless shelter for a day and talk to the people there. Listen to their stories.

At 18 which of those horrible things kept her out of the recruiters office? That full scholarship to fvcking college must have been blocking the door.
 
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At 18 which of those horrible things kept her out of the recruiters office? That full scholarship to fvcking college must have been blocking the door.

It is like you didn't even listen or read the link.

You heard what you wanted to hear. So typical.
 
Give me one that I can't Nagasaki right off this message board.

I gave you one that you first tried to ignore the important parts . . . and then sought to judge based upon your own experiences and reality. But it appears you are more interesting in getting likes from the childish CBradSmith than you are in actually considering this issue from a standpoint that may challenge your presuppositions.

I tell you what, if you really want to meet some...drive into the area of your city/community you never go. Or go to a local homeless shelter. Or a local charity that seeks to help those trapped in poverty. Talk with the individuals you meet there. Don't judge them, but just listen.
 
I tell you what, if you really want to meet some...drive into the area of your city/community you never go. Or go to a local homeless shelter. Or a local charity that seeks to help those trapped in poverty. Talk with the individuals you meet there. Don't judge them, but just listen.

Let me know how this goes for you High.
 
Full ride not to horseshoimg school. Not clown college. Not to culinary school. ****ing business or engineering, public administration whatevs she wanted.

Me after talking to libs.

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Let me know how this goes for you High.

I spent five years working with adults with developmental disabilities. The ultimate sucker punch that you are born with. I know what kind of people cannot make it in this world. Truly can't make it because their mental capacity isn't enough to join the military or hold down a job that isn't basically charity. And I'm supposed to tear up for an able bodied woman that smokes drinks fvcks without protection is a certified nursing assistant but is somehow trapped by some mysterious invisible box around her that blocks all responsibility for decision making.
 
And I'm supposed to tear up for an able bodied woman that smokes drinks fvcks without protection is a certified nursing assistant but is somehow trapped by some mysterious invisible box around her that blocks all responsibility for decision making.

I didn't ask you tear up. I simply provided a story about a person struggling with the cyle of poverty. There are countless others.

Are they perfect? No. Do they make mistakes? Yes. I don't know of any person who is perfect though and who doesn't make mistakes. If perfection is the standard you are going to apply, then you will find an issue with everyone struggling in poverty and use that issue to blame them.

The cycle of poverty is real though. You can bury your head in the sand and deny it all you want, but it still exists.
 
Farrier school (not horseshoing school) you tit.

And those guys are artists who can make 6 figures.

Well fairy school sounds bad so I'll stick with mine. They have to have trucks and tools and obviously that's down right impossible in this situation. I don't know where I was going with those examples, they make no sense now that the salvia is wearing off.
 
I didn't ask you tear up. I simply provided a story about a person struggling with the cyle of poverty. There are countless others.

Are they perfect? No. Do they make mistakes? Yes. I don't know of any person who is perfect though and who doesn't make mistakes. If perfection is the standard you are going to apply, then you will find an issue with everyone struggling in poverty and use that issue to blame them.

The cycle of poverty is real though. You can bury your head in the sand and deny it all you want, but it still exists.

Give me a real example of someone in this great country that cannot, absolutely cannot get out of poverty. They probably exist, just name one. I can see in a Muslim country maybe (read Midaq alley).
 
Oh I have to get my own because you don't want me to blow yours to smitherenes. I understand that.

You haven't blown anything to "smitherenes" yet on this thread. Heck fire, you can't even spell smithereens! lol
 
Conservative voters. Their last guy got us in a stupid war and then a crippling recession (hard to do both - who else did that?). Two before him resigned under a cloud of impeachment. This one will....... ?

Let's just hope this one breaks with previous conservatives!

So far though, it isn't looking good.
 
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I tell you what, if you really want to meet some...drive into the area of your city/community you never go. Or go to a local homeless shelter. Or a local charity that seeks to help those trapped in poverty. Talk with the individuals you meet there. Don't judge them, but just listen.

Let me tell you something. The likelihood of him doing that is about 69,864,899,689 to 1. Here's what I found out a few months ago:

I bitched about Biff cutting meals on wheels. Of course, Harry wanted meals on wheels cut. Come to find out, his own grandmother used it before she died. I proposed that he should go volunteer to pay back the good deed they did for his own family. Nah. Come to find out, he doesn't work -- his wife is the bread earner. He was laying on a beach, on a vacay someone else paid for, bitching about a benevolent social program his own family used.

He lays on his ass and spouts answers about hard work but he doesn't have a job and lets his wife be the bread earner. As is frequently the case, he objects to anyone else getting something for nothing because that's how he lives. See, if you're non productive and live off someone else's work, if you're born into a family that enables it, that's cool. Laying on your ass and sponging off of family is the American Dream. If you're born poor and take welfare... well, someone has to step in and stop the injustice of people not working and getting something for nothing. That's how you resolve the cognitive dissonance of not being productive. Here's a fun question: Where do you think he comes down on the estate tax?

There are a few con posters on her that will argue crazy shit and personally attack you if you disagree. As for Harry, don't ever take him seriously or feel defensive about anything he posts. I don't. He's a lazy, privileged turd and all he does is consume. He will personally attack anything that is a threat to his cognitive dissonance. Classic, real world conservatism at work.
 
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Let me tell you something. The likelihood of him doing that is about 69,864,899,689 to 1.

I don't doubt it. It is much easier to pass judgment about people from afar than actually meet them where they are and try to understand their experiences. Heck, I have even been guilty of this in the past, unfortunately.

I bitched about Biff cutting meals on wheels. Of course, Harry wanted meals on wheels cut. Come to find out, his own grandmother used it before she died.

lol, not surprising. I hear people complaining about governmental programs all the time, programs they have utilized and have helped them. It is nonsensical.

Here's a fun question: Where do you think he comes down on the estate tax?

Based on what I've seen him post so far, I would assume he opposes it.

LThere are a few con posters on her that will argue crazy shit and personally attack you if you disagree. As for Harry, don't ever take him seriously or feel defensive about anything he posts.

lol, oh I don't. I get a kick out of the posters on this board, especially the conservative ones. Some of the stuff they say is so far out there all one can really do is laugh.
 
Let me tell you something. The likelihood of him doing that is about 69,864,899,689 to 1. Here's what I found out a few months ago:

I bitched about Biff cutting meals on wheels. Of course, Harry wanted meals on wheels cut. Come to find out, his own grandmother used it before she died. I proposed that he should go volunteer to pay back the good deed they did for his own family. Nah. Come to find out, he doesn't work -- his wife is the bread earner. He was laying on a beach, on a vacay someone else paid for, bitching about a benevolent social program his own family used.

He lays on his ass and spouts answers about hard work but he doesn't have a job and lets his wife be the bread earner. As is frequently the case, he objects to anyone else getting something for nothing because that's how he lives. See, if you're non productive and live off someone else's work, if you're born into a family that enables it, that's cool. Laying on your ass and sponging off of family is the American Dream. If you're born poor and take welfare... well, someone has to step in and stop the injustice of people not working and getting something for nothing. That's how you resolve the cognitive dissonance of not being productive. Here's a fun question: Where do you think he comes down on the estate tax?

There are a few con posters on her that will argue crazy shit and personally attack you if you disagree. As for Harry, don't ever take him seriously or feel defensive about anything he posts. I don't. He's a lazy, privileged turd and all he does is consume. He will personally attack anything that is a threat to his cognitive dissonance. Classic, real world conservatism at work.

I've been unemployed two months to take care of my kids temporarily, take no government assistance (eligible for Indian health care), and this blistering take down is what you come up with? So jealous and triggered. I'm about to have the whole summer to do as I wish because my wife and I earned it. I'll be thinking of you when I'm wrestling gar out of the river.

But our friend with the three kids and government money truck coming over once a month, she is not a sponge. She is being held down by capitalism. Liberalism is a disease.
 
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Good Lord.

This is about as quintessential a demonstration of 2 different realities that can be found.

Being that I live in the reality that asserts self-discipline, accountability, the ability to learn from all walks of life, consistency, etc are "skills" that are free to be exercised by anybody living in the US, the requisite "empowering" and "helping hand up" are already resting within each individual.

Hell, with the extension of cheap access to the internet, every single person has a lens by which to evaluate successful versus unsuccessful behavior.

The contrast between what works and what doesnt is literally everywhere.

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Id be much more keen on talking with you if you werent characterizing the "cycle of poverty" as if it were a substance abuse/AA issue without also addressing the components of the "cycle" that actually pull someone out of their bad choices.

The basics of your argument is that these people are acclimated or conditioned to a prison of their own making. And its that acclimation/conditioning in the afflicted that gives others an "advantage."

If you want to be persuasive, start using specific words that carry meaning. Drill down to the heart of the issue, describe the problem in detail, come up with a solution.

As for your vacuous initial response to this thread, if you can explain why you think "growing income inequality" is the biggest threat to the US, Ill take that statement back. But I'm 99.5% sure you dont have the knowledge to understand what you're talking about.
 
I don't doubt it. It is much easier to pass judgment about people from afar than actually meet them where they are and try to understand their experiences. Heck, I have even been guilty of this in the past, unfortunately.



lol, not surprising. I hear people complaining about governmental programs all the time, programs they have utilized and have helped them. It is nonsensical.



Based on what I've seen him post so far, I would assume he opposes it.



lol, oh I don't. I get a kick out of the posters on this board, especially the conservative ones. Some of the stuff they say is so far out there all one can really do is laugh.

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