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Okay, let’s agree w Arroyo that we’ll make him the OC for $100k per two years. Arroyo still takes home $2.3MM. What am I missing ?
And that might be how you make the math work on Dunn’s buyout, or at least close the gap. We are saving money on Mason’s contract due to Auburn. Maybe we should get the best fired coaches and let opponents pay 80% of their salary for us. As the obvious NIL and budget poor we are, not a bad plan. 😂
 
The problems are obvious. And those 3 getting together everyday to do a dog and pony show dancing around the unpleasantness of bringing in new blood is not reassuring. It actually worries me that the ineptitude isn’t limited to Gundy…..

We don’t know the real reason for the meetings do we? It could be a simple as Gundy has been given some actions items and this is a daily touch point to keep him accountable. .
 
Do we have the money for buyouts? We could not afford to offer Knowles $300K to $800K more per year out of the gate.

Not being a smart butt, but where does the cash come from? And many are threatening to pull tickets. I bought tickets thru 0-10-1 and donated to support the entire athletic department and to have the ability to regroup another day. It was not a vote of confidence buying tickets. Pull the plug and it gets harder to buy staff out. Fans threatening hurts, now is the time to lean in if you want them to have the cash for buyouts. Does anyone doubt if a white knight drives down to Chad’s office and writes the check to buyout Dunn’s contract he says no?

Goods news is all staff contracts are up next year but Dunn’s has one more year. Looking at decreasing support they may feel financially they have to wait one more year.
Too me this is a fireable offense . You talked to your employee once about his communication with employees and he didn’t improve them. It appears he’s gotten worse and more stubborn. I think your could challenge the buyout.
 
We don’t know the real reason for the meetings do we? It could be a simple as Gundy has been given some actions items and this is a daily touch point to keep him accountable. .
That’s true. If Shrum is involved in those meetings then hopefully they can at least somewhat hold Gundy’s feet to the fire.
 
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We don’t know the real reason for the meetings do we? It could be a simple as Gundy has been given some actions items and this is a daily touch point to keep him accountable. .

Seriously. There's probably a hundred things that they need to be meeting about now other than just staff replacements. Hell even if all the staff replacements are put in place that we want, it sounds like some big changes in program communication need to happen. I'm sure there's talk about what the short-term portal plans are, talk about getting Gundy involved more in NIL..... Etc

Staff changes or not those two need to be sitting down and putting together a new plan of action because the existing one just blew up.
 
2. Meetings - there are a lot of meetings happening right now. One in particular I have been told is AD Weiberg and HC Gundy are meeting daily to discuss most of the stuff in this update and plan to continue to do this.

Gundy has a very public OANgate. I think Chad is in part doing his due diligence to see if Gundy is doing anything that could be causal for dismissal, or at least leveraged to negotiate a reduced buyout. Chad has to gather the facts and separate them from gossip.
 
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Maybe Chad knows the whole story and that makes things not so obvious?
What on earth would the whole story be? It’s already out there the same problem of aloofness and communication are the huge contributors. The coaches lost the team. Not much else to say
 
Thanks for bringing this forward. What I am going to say is not directed at you.


Without anything happening around #1, items 2-6 means dick.
Fair enough and duly noted.

I failed to communicate the real rub about no change in coaching staff in my response.

It will be very difficult to recruit against some of the information that has come out with the portal moves and rumors around potential player issues with Dunn. Tag that with Dickey's inability to gain quality commitments for the offensive line and IMO we will be lagging even more against our peers for the foreseeable future. TCU is about to light the world on fire and OSU is currently playing lope the lizard.

I really can't believe our athletic leadership fail to see these factors (especially as it relates to Dunn).
 
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Do we have the money for buyouts? We could not afford to offer Knowles $300K to $800K more per year out of the gate.

Not being a smart butt, but where does the cash come from? And many are threatening to pull tickets. I bought tickets thru 0-10-1 and donated to support the entire athletic department and to have the ability to regroup another day. It was not a vote of confidence buying tickets. Pull the plug and it gets harder to buy staff out. Fans threatening hurts, now is the time to lean in if you want them to have the cash for buyouts. Does anyone doubt if a white knight drives down to Chad’s office and writes the check to buyout Dunn’s contract he says no?

Goods news is all staff contracts are up next year but Dunn’s has one more year. Looking at decreasing support they may feel financially they have to wait one more year.

Growing tired of hearing we don't have money for buyouts. We are currently doing millions of dollars of stadium renovation. Have the damn money or quit negotiating extensive buyouts in contracts. OSU has too many GD excuses and I am fed up with football throwing them on table.
 
We don’t know the real reason for the meetings do we? It could be a simple as Gundy has been given some actions items and this is a daily touch point to keep him accountable. .
If this is remotely true, then you're saying we have a 3 yr old coach that has to be checked on daily to make sure he's doing his $7 mil job? Really?

Deer lowered! Thats worse than being a narcissistic introvert with no friends.
 
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Why weren’t these wide receivers getting into the weight room to get stronger and faster so they could create a little separation? Why weren’t they dragging their off linemen into the weight room to get stronger and quicker? Instead they yell poor me, look at me and hoof it. Bye.
 
Right. If all is as stated in this post, this is where Mike G has completely lost the whole football program and just has to resign. Will/would he? I don't know. Is it as bad as you posited? I doubt it, but on the surface, it appears so. At least a new coach can sell hope. Gundy can't anymore.
Maybe Gundy WANTS to be fired.
 
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Nothing about the tweet makes me think it was authored by anyone but a current player.

It's genuine.
I could have phrased things more clearly. I agree Benson’s tweet is genuine. I was talking about how it’s odd that we’ve heard radio silence from Gundy’s account. I’m pretty sure he almost never tweets things himself via that account, hence mentioning the Comms team. IF Gundy/they were to even say something.

Regardless, it’s good to see a current player say something positive.

And Ollie MF Gordon looks like he’s staying loyal and true. You love to see it. 🤠
 
If this is remotely true, then you're saying we have a 3 yr old coach that has to be checked on daily to make sure he's doing his $7 mil job? Really?

Deer lowered! Thats worse than being a narcissistic introvert with no friends.
Probably the CEO wants daily updates and how things are progressing. I’m sure the President’s office is being lit up by donors and possibly athlete parents over these issues. I’m sure the Regents want to know what is happening too.
 
I could have phrased things more clearly. I agree Benson’s tweet is genuine. I was talking about how it’s odd that we’ve heard radio silence from Gundy’s account. I’m pretty sure he almost never tweets things himself via that account, hence mentioning the Comms team. IF Gundy/they were to even say something.

Regardless, it’s good to see a current player say something positive.

And Ollie MF Gordon looks like he’s staying loyal and true. You love to see it. 🤠

If you expect to hear anything at all from Mike Gundy right now, I'm sorry but it ain't happening, even from whoever manages with Twitter account.
 
I'm not going to lie, the reactions have surprised me here. Other than continuing to say no coaching staff changes, I thought it was a fairly positive update all things considered?
It was a depressing update. Maybe the worse thing for me was the team collapsed in the last half of the season including the humiliating loss to K-State, the offense sucks due in large part to not having a back-up quarterback and a rushing offense that averaged 2 yards a carry for the season, there is a wave of departures before the bowl game, but the powers that be didn't think something might be wrong until the second wave of departures? What the hell have they been watching the last two months?
 
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