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Ponca Dan

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... that circle around and eventually come to a point.

1) My distaste for all things politician should be well known on this board. I can barely tolerate the sight of most of them, let alone listen to their drivel as they pretend to pontificate deep thoughts. Almost all their “innermost deeply felt opinions” are nothing more than poll tested baloney that they will disavow as soon as a new poll changes the dynamic.

2) Having certified the above statement I have actually paid a little attention to the Democratic Party race for president. I do not hide the fact that I see only one Democrat candidate that appears to be running with the idea of bringing together consensus to solve fundamental problems facing our society, and that person, obviously, is Tulsi Gabbard. The rest are either career politicians, which by definition means they have no soul, or are such intellectual lightweights that the thought of them being president gives one the vapors.

3) Tulsi Gabbard is the “outsider” of the field, a person the establishment thought it could groom, only to discover that she is her own person, and is not for hire like Hillary or Elizabeth or Kamala or Uncle Joe. Have you noticed the ones who were willing to be groomed are called the front runners?

4) Tulsi has proven to be a thorn in the side of the establishment. She has been a much tougher nut to crack than they expected, and so now they must manipulate the process to keep her out, and they don’t particularly care who knows it.

5) I came home from work early today and did something I never do: I turned on the TV and there was Chuck Todd (whom I had never watched before) bringing Anthony Scaramucci on as a guest in order to bash Donald Trump. And boy did Mooch deliver!

6) I know many on this board cannot emotionally tolerate any criticism of DJT, consider critics as outcasts and traitors, but I thought Mooch made a fairly coherent argument in why he has lost faith in the president. For example he pointed out how Trump has overplayed his hand in the trade war, particularly with China, and it is starting to show negative economic effects not only in America but much of the rest of the world. He made many other points, but you get the picture.

7) Mooch has made it his mission to find a competitor against Trump in the upcoming Republican primary season. Chuck Todd showed a lineup of potential candidates, the usual suspects: Bill Weld, What’s-HisName Flake (is it Jeff?), Mark Sanford and a couple of others I had never heard of.

8) So that got me to thinking (I know, it’s always dangerous when I start thinking). The lineup Todd and Scaramucci showed struck me as just as ludicrous as the Democrats, maybe even worse, if that’s possible.

8) That led me to wonder who the Republicans could possibly have? Who would be the Republican Tulsi Gabbard, a politician who has principles he will not betray for anybody or anything. A politician who will criticize those in his own party just as willingly as Democrats.

9) Rand Paul does not fit that mold, although he is close. He blew it in 2016 when he disavowed his libertarianism and tried to position himself as a conservative. Sorry, Rand, you proved yourself to be just another calculating politician.

10) I came up with two names. Only two politicians that fit the bill.

11) Mike Lee is one. But I’m not sure I trust him to actually bare his soul in an attempt to open America’s eyes to the disastrous game both parties are playing.

12) That leaves one politician with the courage to stand on his principles no matter what it means to his political career. And that politician is Justin Amash. Justin Amash is the closest thing the Republicans have to being a Tulsi Gabbard.
 
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Trump supporters are blind lemmings and all "conservative" Trump critics are concerned citizens who see the truth.

Not that they see no way to monitize suporting Trump so they are capitalizing on the rapid anti Trump media to get attention they would never get.

There is no cure for TDS.
 
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Trump supporters are blind lemmings and all "conservative" Trump critics are concerned citizens who see the truth.

Not that they see no way to monitize suporting Trump so they are capitalizing on the rapid anti Trump media to get attention they would never get.

There is no cure for TDS.

I wish I could say I understand what you wrote and how it connects to who would be the Republican Tulsi Gabbard, but unfortunately I can’t.

When you say TDS are you referring to Trump Derangement Syndrome or Trump Deification Syndrome? Because they are both very real emotional defects, and I’m not sure which one you are talking about.
 
... that circle around and eventually come to a point.

1) My distaste for all things politician should be well known on this board. I can barely tolerate the sight of most of them, let alone listen to their drivel as they pretend to pontificate deep thoughts. Almost all their “innermost deeply felt opinions” are nothing more than poll tested baloney that they will disavow as soon as a new poll changes the dynamic.

2) Having certified the above statement I have actually paid a little attention to the Democratic Party race for president. I do not hide the fact that I see only one Democrat candidate that appears to be running with the idea of bringing together consensus to solve fundamental problems facing our society, and that person, obviously, is Tulsi Gabbard. The rest are either career politicians, which by definition means they have no soul, or are such intellectual lightweights that the thought of them being president gives one the vapors.

3) Tulsi Gabbard is the “outsider” of the field, a person the establishment thought it could groom, only to discover that she is her own person, and is not for hire like Hillary or Elizabeth or Kamala or Uncle Joe. Have you noticed the ones who were willing to be groomed are called the front runners?

4) Tulsi has proven to be a thorn in the side of the establishment. She has been a much tougher nut to crack than they expected, and so now they must manipulate the process to keep her out, and they don’t particularly care who knows it.

5) I came home from work early today and did something I never do: I turned on the TV and there was Chuck Todd (whom I had never watched before) bringing Anthony Scaramucci on as a guest in order to bash Donald Trump. And boy did Mooch deliver!

6) I know many on this board cannot emotionally tolerate any criticism of DJT, consider critics as outcasts and traitors, but I thought Mooch made a fairly coherent argument in why he has lost faith in the president. For example he pointed out how Trump has overplayed his hand in the trade war, particularly with China, and it is starting to show negative economic effects not only in America but much of the rest of the world. He made many other points, but you get the picture.

7) Mooch has made it his mission to find a competitor against Trump in the upcoming Republican primary season. Chuck Todd showed a lineup of potential candidates, the usual suspects: Bill Weld, What’s-HisName Flake (is it Jeff?), Mark Sanford and a couple of others I had never heard of.

8) So that got me to thinking (I know, it’s always dangerous when I start thinking). The lineup Todd and Scaramucci showed struck me as just as ludicrous as the Democrats, maybe even worse, if that’s possible.

8) That led me to wonder who the Republicans could possibly have? Who would be the Republican Tulsi Gabbard, a politician who has principles he will not betray for anybody or anything. A politician who will criticize those in his own party just as willingly as Democrats.

9) Rand Paul does not fit that mold, although he is close. He blew it in 2016 when he disavowed his libertarianism and tried to position himself as a conservative. Sorry, Rand, you proved yourself to be just another calculating politician.

10) I came up with two names. Only two politicians that fit the bill.

11) Mike Lee is one. But I’m not sure I trust him to actually bare his soul in an attempt to open America’s eyes to the disastrous game both parties are playing.

12) That leaves one politician with the courage to stand on his principles no matter what it means to his political career. And that politician is Justin Amash. Justin Amash is the closest thing the Republicans have to being a Tulsi Gabbard.

I'm not sure I trust Mike Lee to be anything other than a politician. My issue with Amash isn't that he's against Trump. Its that he thinks its better to support one of the Democratic loons than to support Trump. He's actually said that he'd rather vote Democrat. I don't know how that can fit anyone's vision of "Republicanism". Can you imagine Joe Biden saying, "Well I disagree so much with Corey Booker, I'll cast my vote for Donald Trump".

Imo, the two best people who fit that bill are Kasich (who couldn't beat Trump) and Pence (who's joined him). Pence would be an interesting candidate, as there is zero doubt of his Republican bona-fides or his moral compass, and its possible that 4 years of working under Trump he has a better understanding of how to play the aggressor with the media and the Democratic party (like Trump has done). In the end though, for any of the other Republican runners what's their unique platform vs. Trump other than being more polite or presidential? At least with Tulsi, there is a specific anti-war platform that is her's and her's alone.
 
... that circle around and eventually come to a point.

1) My distaste for all things politician should be well known on this board. I can barely tolerate the sight of most of them, let alone listen to their drivel as they pretend to pontificate deep thoughts. Almost all their “innermost deeply felt opinions” are nothing more than poll tested baloney that they will disavow as soon as a new poll changes the dynamic.

2) Having certified the above statement I have actually paid a little attention to the Democratic Party race for president. I do not hide the fact that I see only one Democrat candidate that appears to be running with the idea of bringing together consensus to solve fundamental problems facing our society, and that person, obviously, is Tulsi Gabbard. The rest are either career politicians, which by definition means they have no soul, or are such intellectual lightweights that the thought of them being president gives one the vapors.

3) Tulsi Gabbard is the “outsider” of the field, a person the establishment thought it could groom, only to discover that she is her own person, and is not for hire like Hillary or Elizabeth or Kamala or Uncle Joe. Have you noticed the ones who were willing to be groomed are called the front runners?

4) Tulsi has proven to be a thorn in the side of the establishment. She has been a much tougher nut to crack than they expected, and so now they must manipulate the process to keep her out, and they don’t particularly care who knows it.

5) I came home from work early today and did something I never do: I turned on the TV and there was Chuck Todd (whom I had never watched before) bringing Anthony Scaramucci on as a guest in order to bash Donald Trump. And boy did Mooch deliver!

6) I know many on this board cannot emotionally tolerate any criticism of DJT, consider critics as outcasts and traitors, but I thought Mooch made a fairly coherent argument in why he has lost faith in the president. For example he pointed out how Trump has overplayed his hand in the trade war, particularly with China, and it is starting to show negative economic effects not only in America but much of the rest of the world. He made many other points, but you get the picture.

7) Mooch has made it his mission to find a competitor against Trump in the upcoming Republican primary season. Chuck Todd showed a lineup of potential candidates, the usual suspects: Bill Weld, What’s-HisName Flake (is it Jeff?), Mark Sanford and a couple of others I had never heard of.

8) So that got me to thinking (I know, it’s always dangerous when I start thinking). The lineup Todd and Scaramucci showed struck me as just as ludicrous as the Democrats, maybe even worse, if that’s possible.

8) That led me to wonder who the Republicans could possibly have? Who would be the Republican Tulsi Gabbard, a politician who has principles he will not betray for anybody or anything. A politician who will criticize those in his own party just as willingly as Democrats.

9) Rand Paul does not fit that mold, although he is close. He blew it in 2016 when he disavowed his libertarianism and tried to position himself as a conservative. Sorry, Rand, you proved yourself to be just another calculating politician.

10) I came up with two names. Only two politicians that fit the bill.

11) Mike Lee is one. But I’m not sure I trust him to actually bare his soul in an attempt to open America’s eyes to the disastrous game both parties are playing.

12) That leaves one politician with the courage to stand on his principles no matter what it means to his political career. And that politician is Justin Amash. Justin Amash is the closest thing the Republicans have to being a Tulsi Gabbard.

Anyone else find his crush on Tulsi as an “outsider who is a thorn in the side of the establishment”....

....while bashing people for observing the exact same about Trump....

....to be disingenuous? I do.

Tulsi is definitely hotter. How big a mindfvck would it be if she became his running mate?
 
... that circle around and eventually come to a point.

1) My distaste for all things politician should be well known on this board. I can barely tolerate the sight of most of them, let alone listen to their drivel as they pretend to pontificate deep thoughts. Almost all their “innermost deeply felt opinions” are nothing more than poll tested baloney that they will disavow as soon as a new poll changes the dynamic.

2) Having certified the above statement I have actually paid a little attention to the Democratic Party race for president. I do not hide the fact that I see only one Democrat candidate that appears to be running with the idea of bringing together consensus to solve fundamental problems facing our society, and that person, obviously, is Tulsi Gabbard. The rest are either career politicians, which by definition means they have no soul, or are such intellectual lightweights that the thought of them being president gives one the vapors.

3) Tulsi Gabbard is the “outsider” of the field, a person the establishment thought it could groom, only to discover that she is her own person, and is not for hire like Hillary or Elizabeth or Kamala or Uncle Joe. Have you noticed the ones who were willing to be groomed are called the front runners?

4) Tulsi has proven to be a thorn in the side of the establishment. She has been a much tougher nut to crack than they expected, and so now they must manipulate the process to keep her out, and they don’t particularly care who knows it.

5) I came home from work early today and did something I never do: I turned on the TV and there was Chuck Todd (whom I had never watched before) bringing Anthony Scaramucci on as a guest in order to bash Donald Trump. And boy did Mooch deliver!

6) I know many on this board cannot emotionally tolerate any criticism of DJT, consider critics as outcasts and traitors, but I thought Mooch made a fairly coherent argument in why he has lost faith in the president. For example he pointed out how Trump has overplayed his hand in the trade war, particularly with China, and it is starting to show negative economic effects not only in America but much of the rest of the world. He made many other points, but you get the picture.

7) Mooch has made it his mission to find a competitor against Trump in the upcoming Republican primary season. Chuck Todd showed a lineup of potential candidates, the usual suspects: Bill Weld, What’s-HisName Flake (is it Jeff?), Mark Sanford and a couple of others I had never heard of.

8) So that got me to thinking (I know, it’s always dangerous when I start thinking). The lineup Todd and Scaramucci showed struck me as just as ludicrous as the Democrats, maybe even worse, if that’s possible.

8) That led me to wonder who the Republicans could possibly have? Who would be the Republican Tulsi Gabbard, a politician who has principles he will not betray for anybody or anything. A politician who will criticize those in his own party just as willingly as Democrats.

9) Rand Paul does not fit that mold, although he is close. He blew it in 2016 when he disavowed his libertarianism and tried to position himself as a conservative. Sorry, Rand, you proved yourself to be just another calculating politician.

10) I came up with two names. Only two politicians that fit the bill.

11) Mike Lee is one. But I’m not sure I trust him to actually bare his soul in an attempt to open America’s eyes to the disastrous game both parties are playing.

12) That leaves one politician with the courage to stand on his principles no matter what it means to his political career. And that politician is Justin Amash. Justin Amash is the closest thing the Republicans have to being a Tulsi Gabbard.
Please tell me it is not true can an American president order American companies on
how and where to do business.I thought you had free economy and democracy.
Now the President orders companies to find alternate sources to China as if there are so many available that it could be done in 6 months. Then I find out that people don't choose the president but God does.
What is going on.
 
Please tell me it is not true can an American president order American companies on
how and where to do business.I thought you had free economy and democracy.
Now the President orders companies to find alternate sources to China as if there are so many available that it could be done in 6 months. Then I find out that people don't choose the president but God does.
What is going on.

Shut the fvck up.
 
Anyone else find his crush on Tulsi as an “outsider who is a thorn in the side of the establishment”....

....while bashing people for observing the exact same about Trump....

....to be disingenuous? I do.

Tulsi is definitely hotter. How big a mindfvck would it be if she became his running mate?
Don't expect a reply to this post - ever.
 
Please tell me it is not true can an American president order American companies on
how and where to do business.I thought you had free economy and democracy.
Now the President orders companies to find alternate sources to China as if there are so many available that it could be done in 6 months. Then I find out that people don't choose the president but God does.
What is going on.


It is not true. The president cannot order businesses around like that. Not yet, anyway. But that won’t keep this president (or any future president) from trying to grab such power. The scary part is there are American citizens who think granting this president (or any future president) such control over their liberty is perfectly legitimate. I hate to say it but that seems to be the direction in which we are heading.

Trump Deification Syndrome is a very real thing, but it is hardly a new phenomenon. Obama deifiers set the standard that Trump loyalists are determined to surpass. I don’t think this is going to end well for our country.
 
It is not true. The president cannot order businesses around like that. Not yet, anyway. But that won’t keep this president (or any future president) from trying to grab such power. The scary part is there are American citizens who think granting this president (or any future president) such control over their liberty is perfectly legitimate. I hate to say it but that seems to be the direction in which we are heading.

Trump Deification Syndrome is a very real thing, but it is hardly a new phenomenon. Obama deifiers set the standard that Trump loyalists are determined to surpass. I don’t think this is going to end well for our country.
You've become the old man who cries Trump. The democracy is falling! The democracy is falling!
 
You've become the old man who cries Trump. The democracy is falling! The democracy is falling!
That’s close, but slightly misses the mark. Our democracy seems to be in fine shape. It’s our liberty and independence from government dictate that is falling.
“Our liberty is falling, our liberty is falling!”
 
Please tell me it is not true can an American president order American companies on
how and where to do business.I thought you had free economy and democracy.
Now the President orders companies to find alternate sources to China as if there are so many available that it could be done in 6 months. Then I find out that people don't choose the president but God does.
What is going on.
I’m sorry the thread got derailed, but this is for you, aliabedi:


https://reason.com/2019/08/23/as-tr...tly-ordered-american-businesses-out-of-china/
 
If I were Trump, would recast that comment into I’m going to work with Congress to give any business that moves its manufacturing out of China a 10 year tariff free window for products shipped back to the US or something like that. This would be a prime opportunity to move these operations to say Guatemala, Honduras or Mexico.

Some of you have about 50 treble hooks in your mouth from things Trump has said and you take literally. Better stop soon to or you won’t have any room left to take in nourishment and you’ll starve.
 
If I were Trump, would recast that comment into I’m going to work with Congress to give any business that moves its manufacturing out of China a 10 year tariff free window for products shipped back to the US or something like that. This would be a prime opportunity to move these operations to say Guatemala, Honduras or Mexico.

Some of you have about 50 treble hooks in your mouth from things Trump has said and you take literally. Better stop soon to or you won’t have any room left to take in nourishment and you’ll starve.

You are one of the few posters on this board I especially like to read. I liked this post for two primary reasons.

First, in your own subtle way you are admitting Trump’s economic policies have been a mistake.

And second, as has always been your style you have thought about the situation and have tried to come up with alternatives that might work.
 
See if you can get Ringo and Paul to denounce Charlie Manson.

It’s too late for John and George.
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My position? If you enjoy David Duke having your back that’s on you.

Nobody but morons care about anecdotal fringe support. It literally indicates nothing. This is grade school math.

It’s like holding General Motors responsible for Timothy McVeigh’s preference in vans.

I mean it’s monumentally fvcking stupid.
 
(&^* you make a great point and then shit your pants.

Anyone else find his crush on Tulsi as an “outsider who is a thorn in the side of the establishment”....

....while bashing people for observing the exact same about Trump....

....to be disingenuous? I do.

Tulsi is definitely hotter. How big a mindfvck would it be if she became his running mate?

yes, I find his crush on her adorable. Hell men of every demographic and age love the shit out of her. I think she's got some weird Assad or Putin thing going on and I love her. won't vote for her, but I wanna see her as a face of the party all the time. And no, she's a lib outside of the assad thing. She's a straight running, real lib.

Shut the fvck up.

Dude asked great questions, you come home drunk and say that. Those questions are all common sense questions.
 
Nobody but morons care about anecdotal fringe support. It literally indicates nothing. This is grade school math.

It’s like holding General Motors responsible for Timothy McVeigh’s preference in vans.

I mean it’s monumentally fvcking stupid.
No it’s nothing like your straw man argument. Enjoy having David Duke And Russia as a fan.
 
Maybe Trump has backmasked hidden reverse dog whistle messages in his speeches that only David Duke, pot smokers and Satan worshippers can hear, Tipper?
Or maybe it's just wide-ass obvious for anybody from Oklahoma to Timbuktu to see.
 
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I can’t make you understand why David Duke/Russia as a cheerleader for your cause is a bad look, you have to self reflect.

These guys have the shittiest people lining up behind Trump, going to jail everywhere and their anthem was..... drum roll.... no shit, get a load of this..... drain the swamp.
 
Some loser. Can’t remember.

I just instantly game up with 3 examples of born follower hive nomenclature adoption. Check. Mate. Unify these 2 threads, apologize, and slice me off some watermelon and I'll salt it myself.
 
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