It was probably a team decision to not give them a platform.
I can't get behind that.
Free speech and all.
Trump violated the First Amendment
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It was probably a team decision to not give them a platform.
I can't get behind that.
Free speech and all.
What has trump posted that is official executive branch action?
People losing their jobs is not part of the 1st amendment. You must understand that going forward. I insist you realize it.
Definitions matter. Define 'official government business'.
So the communication medium now is part of the official government business and is required to be bidirectional? That's what this ruling seems to be saying.
I would also contend that twitter isn't official records of the government. Why? Because if someone were to submit a FOIA request, where would it go? It wouldn't go to a government agency. So it isn't government business.
And ramifications for stupid statements and getting fired has no bearing on this situation. Because if it is, then ABC is an official government agency if you give an interview to 60 minutes and you say something that gets you fired. Same situation. Neither are 'official' government anything.
This ruling is just dumb.
I might be completely wrong, but I believe stuff like this is archived by the federal government so the request would be to it like on all other instances. I'm pretty sure the Obama Twitter stuff was stored.
When Obama’s presidency was up, his Twitter was archived and the @POTUS was wiped clean for Trump, but Humpty was never going to use it, so his personal account will likewise be archived as public record.
If the government chooses to capture and archive that, fine. Then that archive would be FOIA'd. But Twitter itself wouldn't be. And that's the real point.
You constitutional scholar you.
I'd love to hear @CowboyJD on the subject.
So far your point is what exactly? That this court ruling is right, proper and true and should pass constitutional review? That a tweet from Trump is 'official government business' and that by blocking replies to certain accounts he is violating their constitutional right to free speech as protected by the first amendment?
SO now not only do I have to allow someone a street corner to give a speech, I have to also listen to them? Remember he isn't disabling their ability to Tweet. He's just blocking them from his view so he doesn't have to hear it.
You and someone on the street corner aren’t the President of The United States. Your tweets don’t influence public policy, the economy, war/peace, etc.
As a freedom of petition to redress grievance is guaranteed, no, Trump can’t simply silence me by blocking. He doesn’t have to read, he doesn’t have to like it...he just can’t stop said petition.
So a twitter reply is now an official document to the government as used to redress grievances?
Also it says that 'congress shall make no law'. Show me which law is being violated?
Your position is absurd.
And Trump isn't silencing anything by blocking you. He just isn't listening to your drivel. You are still free to go to the courthouse and file an actual petition or to tweet to your 34 followers instead of his millions.
Also it says that 'congress shall make no law'. Show me which law is being violated?
Your position is absurd.
And Trump isn't silencing anything by blocking you. He just isn't listening to your drivel. You are still free to go to the courthouse and file an actual petition or to tweet to your 34 followers instead of his millions.
Trump can still mute all the people he doesn't want to listen to.
How is influencing anything close to official business?
Did he start a tweet with "I am hereby calling for the DOJ..." this weekend?
Bwhahahahahahaha. Please tell me you aren't serious.
What executive order number is on that tweet?
You have got me there. The only thing the president does in official capacity is issue executive orders.
Come on you clowns you can’t possibly think that blocking assholes from one of 100 million twitter accounts is in any way a violation of the first amendment. There are 100’s of ways to speak on the internet. You aren’t being reasonable at all.
Look what trump is forcing you people to do. Normal center voters are begging you not to flush your party down the toilet so republicans are the only choice. Most of the people here would argue a strong sensible left is better for the country. The positions you defend don’t make sense and you 15 years ago would be disgusted.
Look what trump is forcing you people to do. Normal center voters are begging you not to flush your party down the toilet so republicans are the only choice. Most of the people here would argue a strong sensible left is better for the country. The positions you defend don’t make sense and you 15 years ago would be disgusted.
Here is a good example for the left.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...y-theft-charge-in-welfare-fraud-case.amp.html
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...y-theft-charge-in-welfare-fraud-case.amp.html
You try so hard.
In the end, you have the exact same thoughts as toon though.
That's hilarious to me.
You've turned into toonlite.
All the hysteria with a little less stupid.
Not so sure about that. See the shooting at Louies thread this morning.
Not really.
Not really. Big tent. Seems like he acknowledges reality and facts, though.
Keep me posted.
You're not "lite" anything, you're just a garden variety dumbass.
All the anti-intellectual, gullible, pissed-off politics with a little more stupid.
Part of your problem is that you think you are an intellectual. you are just a leaky propaganda receptacle.
I'll give you another shot at this.
Take your time.
You're not the quick type. You're better if you ruminate awhile.
I bet your steering wheel has heard some funny shit on the way home.
Real time, not so much.
Clearly his point was more than you can comprehend. What does that say about your grasp?
Look what Trump is forcing you to do. A strong sensible POTUS doesn't cower in the face of criticism. He has you now defending his pussification of the Presidency.
BTW: agree on conclusion that the decision should not stand. Your inability to acknowledge the arguments however is embarrassing.
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NK, Iran, ISIS might all candidly disagree with your pussification theory - which is pretty funny considering the flaccid foreign policy of Zero's admin to compare it to.
Trump takes on his critics all the time. He is meeting directly with the most hated dictator of our time. He has done business all over the world. I’m sure he is cowering here. Good assessment.
It’s simply housekeeping for his twitter feed. That’s it. He is scared of no one.
Housekeeping my ass. Unless you mean by housekeeping sustaining the fantasy land built around the fragile ego of Donnie boy.
I, on the other hand, can barely contain my excitement - when does QAnon tell us the great rapture will occur now?
