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Trump invited Putin to visit WH

Did you honestly find Trump’s remarks impressive?

I have liked most of what the president has done and said during his time in office. However, I have been perplexed since watching the news coverage of the event. I am hoping that the end game will reveal it to have been a good starting point.

Regarding the press specifically, I think the press is generally made up of idealistic hacks that root for one team of the other. There are few talking heads that simply report facts in a non-partisan way.
 
Clearly, you are only capable of seeing the situation from one side of the fence. Just go back in time 4 years and see if the same applies from the opposite direction.

Is it clear, Been?

I don't believe it is. I don't recall anybody ever operating from a position that Obama wasn't rightfully President. I do, however, recall a tremendous amount of debate around policy and personal characteristics. That is healthy and fine.

The current bifurcation being that the current unhinged Left (a subset of the larger left) operates as if President should not be President. The effective downstream impact is that anything he does policywise is not legitimate.

There is no common place from which to debate these people because they are not able to compartmentalize the possibility that he is rightfully President.

You can ultimately claim correctly that there's nothing distinguishable between those from 4 years ago that would "resist" policy regardless of what it was and those today that "resist" the potential legitimacy of President Trump.

But the belief by the latter manifests itself (in parallel with growing progressive influence within the party) in a way that is outwardly oriented to not respect those that either feel differently or are prepared to let the investigative processes work themselves to a conclusion.

Basically, they 15-30% of the population fell they are "right" in being belligerent assholes to everybody else.

That's problematic and a distinct difference from 4 years ago.
 
Is it clear, Been?

I don't believe it is. I don't recall anybody ever operating from a position that Obama wasn't rightfully President. I do, however, recall a tremendous amount of debate around policy and personal characteristics. That is healthy and fine.

The current bifurcation being that the current unhinged Left (a subset of the larger left) operates as if President should not be President. The effective downstream impact is that anything he does policywise is not legitimate.

There is no common place from which to debate these people because they are not able to compartmentalize the possibility that he is rightfully President.

You can ultimately claim correctly that there's nothing distinguishable between those from 4 years ago that would "resist" policy regardless of what it was and those today that "resist" the potential legitimacy of President Trump.

But the belief by the latter manifests itself (in parallel with growing progressive influence within the party) in a way that is outwardly oriented to not respect those that either feel differently or are prepared to let the investigative processes work themselves to a conclusion.

Basically, they 15-30% of the population fell they are "right" in being belligerent assholes to everybody else.

That's problematic and a distinct difference from 4 years ago.

MOSTLY agree, but what was the “birther” movement and its adherent but operating from a position that Obama wasn’t rightfully President? Extreme birther adherents were also unable to compartmentalize the possibility Obama was not legitimate.

Yes, I recognize the “resistance” progressives are greater numbers than the extreme birthers and you are talking about trends, numbers, and influence. That’s why I said I mostly agree with you.
 
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MOSTLY agree, but what was the “birther” movement and its adherent but operating from a position that Obama wasn’t rightfully President? Extreme birther adherents were also unable to compartmentalize the possibility Obama was not legitimate.

Yes, I recognize the “resistance” progressives are greater numbers than the extreme birthers and you are talking about trends, numbers, and influence. That’s why I said I mostly agree with you.

No issue with that observation. I was being specific to Been's "go back 4 years" remark.
 
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I don't believe it is. I don't recall anybody ever operating from a position that Obama wasn't rightfully President.

Other than the Birthers, right? (the most notorious one being the current POTUS).

Seriously, though. Are you saying that there i
is a large number of misguided lefties who think Trump wasn't legitimately elected to the presidency? If so, is their issue that he didn't win the popular vote, or that Russia stole the election from Hillary, or that he colluded?

Because, on this board, I see the following....
-Comments that he didn't win the popular vote, but no comments that this should disqualify him from the position of POTUS.
-Comments that Russia attempted to interfere with the election, but no clear comments on how successful they were.
-Comments that his campaign may have colluded, and there is some smoke, but no definitive answer to that question just yet.

What am I missing?
All 3 of the above, can be discussed in certain debates, without claiming that Trump is not the legitimate POTUS.

I will admit that I have barely spent time here prior to the last week, so maybe I did miss some things.
 
Basically, they 15-30% of the population fell they are "right" in being belligerent assholes to everybody else.

That's problematic and a distinct difference from 4 years ago.

I do agree that Clinton is usually a belligerent asshole to those on the other side. However, I'm not sure I agree that this type of behavior is only present on the left, or that there is a higher percentage of those types of people on the left.

I see belligerent asshole posts from the conservative side quite frequently (only from a small number of posters).

I, also do not agree that there is a significant difference between now and 4 years ago. Just that the major players are on opposite sides of the field now.
 
Other than the Birthers, right? (the most notorious one being the current POTUS).

Seriously, though. Are you saying that there i
is a large number of misguided lefties who think Trump wasn't legitimately elected to the presidency? If so, is their issue that he didn't win the popular vote, or that Russia stole the election from Hillary, or that he colluded?

Because, on this board, I see the following....
-Comments that he didn't win the popular vote, but no comments that this should disqualify him from the position of POTUS.
-Comments that Russia attempted to interfere with the election, but no clear comments on how successful they were.
-Comments that his campaign may have colluded, and there is some smoke, but no definitive answer to that question just yet.

What am I missing?
All 3 of the above, can be discussed in certain debates, without claiming that Trump is not the legitimate POTUS.

I will admit that I have barely spent time here prior to the last week, so maybe I did miss some things.

You're missing nothing. That's all exactly right. Don't burn too many calories trying to find meaning in his strawman beat downs.
 
Imagine dedicating your time and energy to stop putin while black families are torn apart by gang violence and drugs.

WTH are you doing? Go help these white conservatives.

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That lifestyle is a choice for most people.

What’s the violent crime stats from Owsley county?

Crime in Owsley County, Kentucky
Crime is ranked on a scale of 1 (low crime) to 100 (high crime)

Owsley County violent crime is 53.9.(The US average is 31.1)
Owsley County property crime is 50.1. (The US average is 38.1)
 
Crime in Owsley County, Kentucky
Crime is ranked on a scale of 1 (low crime) to 100 (high crime)

Owsley County violent crime is 53.9.(The US average is 31.1)
Owsley County property crime is 50.1. (The US average is 38.1)

What percentage of those people have the resources to get id’s?
 
Are you the only one allowed to take time off to squeeze your stress ball and color when the board gets on your nerves?

Try some lols and hahas...laugh it off...works for me lol.

I mean, given all the personal attacks I encounter, I should’ve taken out several posters on here already, right? At least that’s how Brad thinks my mind works haha.
 
Try some lols and hahas...laugh it off...works for me lol.

I mean, given all the personal attacks I encounter, I should’ve taken out several posters on here already, right? At least that’s how Brad thinks my mind works haha.

Taken out? Like killed? Over internet insults?

Yikes.
 
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For the record you deserve every personal attack and more because of the nasty way you have acted over the last ten years. No one else gets treated like you for a reason.

Awesome...won’t change a thing until others likewise change. Don’t like it? Either put me on ignore or learn to cope lol
 
Awesome...won’t change a thing until others likewise change. Don’t like it? Either put me on ignore or learn to cope lol

There is a reason you are the only person. Your my 2 cents thing is a good start in its own fvcked up way but under your real name you are damaged goods. Even if you did want to change you are right it wouldn’t be reciprocated.

I will try and cope though.
 
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There is a reason you are the only person. Your my 2 cents thing is a good start in its own fvcked up way but under your real name you are damaged goods. Even if you did want to change you are right it wouldn’t be reciprocated.

I will try and cope though.

Lol...still too fvcking dumb to realize the toon/2cents conspiracy theory is his own BS.
 
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