I hear jack Smith may have a little trouble himself if a whistle blower is to be believed. Inspector General of the DOJ has been investigating him for a year now.
Trump Classified Documents case dismissed
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First, a special counsel doesn't have "unlimited powers." That is false.
Second, I disagree with your private citizen argument. I understand Judge Cannon accepted this argument, but this argument or similar arguments have never been accepted before. Including with a majority of the Supreme Court, who accepted that the appointment of Smith was valid.
Are you claiming the Supreme Court was wrong with their immunity ruling now? A ruling you celebrated before.
I'm questioning Judge Cannon based on her clearly incorrect and faulty legal rulings, not based on anything else. I'm questioning whether she is being neutral here based on her legal rulings. Remember, Cannon has already been overturned twice by the Eleventh Circuit. Quick overturns too, as will be the case here.
I don't care who appointed her, how she votes in political elections, etc.
On the other hand, that is all you point to as it relates to the NY judge. Yet, that judge didn't make clearly incorrect and faulty rulings. His rulings were not being repeatedly overturned.
There is a big difference between the two which is clear to see.
btw, the immunity ruling came after the NYC case. The NY judge has now scheduled a hearing to consider the "new law* handled down by the Supreme Court. You can't fault the NY judge for not ruling a certain way before a majority of the Supreme Court decide to create "new law".
But again, a majority of the Supreme Court has already accepted that the appointment of Smith was valid. In order for them to now say it wasn't would be for them to completely undercut their immunity ruling.
Not to mention that only one other justice agreed with Thomas' concurrence Bearcat. That clearly isn't close to a majority.
This is just a bad ruling by Judge Cannon that will be quickly overturned. It is a delay tactic and Cannon should be ashamed of herself for playing along.
Yes, this is how the process is designed to work. The Eleventh Circuit will once again overturn a lower court judge who keeps getting it wrong. The process will work. I trust the process and I'm not attacking the process.
With that said Bearcat, you need to give today's bad ruling serious consideration. You need to step back and consider this ruling from a nonpartisan basis. I understand that it very briefly helps Trump to delay, but think about the impact this ruling would have moving forward for our country and for both Democrats and Republicans politicians in the future. Don't just jump to defending a bad ruling because it may briefly help one politician you support.
Even if he doesn't, I have no doubt that if Trump is allowed to be President again, Trump will definitely try to find something to go after Smith on. Trump has made it clear that he wants to enact revenge on his opponents and has even pointed towards military tribunals for his opponents. How in the world you can support any of this and claim to love our Constitution and country is beyond me.
Just more reason why Trump must be defeated in November.
The judge knows the DOJ is corrupt. There’s going to be so many changes between today and when this thing ever comes up again it’s already yesterday’s news. Besides, all Trump would have to do in his defense is say he’s old and doesn’t have a good memory. I think that excuse worked for some other guy. Can’t remember him name at the moment.
Time to move on.
Time to move on.
In other words, Trump will beat the democrooks at their own game. You people aren’t doing anything if you’re not projecting. Now, I’ll sit back and wait for your AI-generated response.
Wrong.
Show me where President Biden has suspended our legal system and placed Trump in front of a military tribunal?
When you can, you might actually have a point. Until then, you just sound like the neo-fascist cultist you are.
1. The case in NY, in which Trump was convicted was a STATE court case with zero to do with Jack Smith.
2. Trump was convicted by a jury of 34 felonies. There is NO requirement that he be sentenced to be called a "felon," "convict," "crook," etc.
3. Is the word you're looking for "LIBEL" (meaning defamation) as the word "liable" has a completely different meaning.
In short, there is basically nothing in your post that is factually correct.
Wrong. It is not even close to time to move on. I have no doubt you want all of this to disappear, but it isn't going to.
Again, this ruling will be overturned by the Eleventh Circuit fairly quickly. One can hope too that the Eleventh Circuit removes the judge too.
Predicting what Trump might do is no longer working. Trying to scare people to vote a certain way. Calling him a Nazi, threat to Democracy, the gig is over. People know Senile Joe is weak, wrecked the country, and lies more than any politician in Washington currently.
Yep.
Of course, that is almost always the case with that poster. And a number of other posters on this board as well.
It's both amazing and sad how they actually believe the junk they spew out.
Your side just tried to kill our candidate. Time for you to drop the whole fAsCiSt schtick. You clearly have no clue what the word means.
He is like every extremist leftist, he is pissed he missed.
Sure it is. And isn't going to stop.
btw, I'm and others are not predicting. We quoting Trump himself and referring to his own actions. Now, unless you think Trump is a liar, I don't know what your problem is.
I don't think anyone should call Trump a Nazi. I agree. He isn't one.
He is a neo-fascist and that is what he should continue to be called. He empowers Christian nationalists and that will continue to be noted.
He is also definitely a threat to our democracy and this truth will also continue to be said.
No "gig" is up. And if you think so, you are very mistaken.
So couldn't point to the military tribunals set up for Trump, right? lol!
No one on "my side" tried to kill Trump. If you are going to continue with this nonsense, at least be honest and admit the shooter was a registered Republican.
We still don't know enough about Thomas Matthew Crooks to determine why he did what he did.
Well, I'm not going to, so you are going to have to get over it. Or better yet, just be honest about who you are. It's ok to admit who you are. You won't shock any of us, trust me.
And I've told you numerous times what it means and you know it.
Funny, all the legal experts I have been watching on the major networks, including MSNBC and CNN (i.e., lib point of view), have said this all but kills this case. But what do they know compared to your legal expertise? 😂
This is a flat out lie. I have been flipping between MSNBC and CNN this evening keeping up with the convention and the other news, and I've not seen any legal experts claim this kills the case. Not one. Indeed, they are all saying the complete opposite. That the Eleventh Circuit will overturn the ruling.
No need to lie.
Military tribunals would require a constitutional amendment and/or legislation by congress. If both get passed, then hell yeah. Let’s do it, especially considering the fraud they perpetrated on all of us with their Hollywood produced “hearings”.
But if you think the president can somehow give an order for this to happen, then you are fundamentally ignorant of the American legal system. In fact you would be fundamentally ignorant of basic high school civics.
Regardless, your side are the only ones showing fascist tendencies, what with the attempted assassination and the leftist fan base that the shooter has acquired over the last 48 hours, not to mention the nightly “ Kristallnacht” re-enactments against police in 2020 and Jews in 2023-2024.
But if you think the president can somehow give an order for this to happen, then you are fundamentally ignorant of the American legal system. In fact you would be fundamentally ignorant of basic high school civics.
Regardless, your side are the only ones showing fascist tendencies, what with the attempted assassination and the leftist fan base that the shooter has acquired over the last 48 hours, not to mention the nightly “ Kristallnacht” re-enactments against police in 2020 and Jews in 2023-2024.
It pretty much did. I read you said it previously. Getting to another docket pre election ? Slim or none?
I've not stated this ruling kills the case. Not once.
If you are asking if this case is going to trial before election day, most likely not, no. Yes, this is a legal delay tactic, happens all the time.
But none of that kills the case.
Sorry my meds thought I typed where you referenced that’s why he can not be reelected. Because you want him to be tried and if re elected he dismisses it.
Yes, if he is elected in November, I'm sure he will do everything in his power to kill the case since he believes he is above the law.
This is just one reason (among many) why he must be defeated in November.
1. I didn't tie those two cases. Smith/Trump is active in more courts than that.
2. No sentence no convict. The jury did its duty but the trial is incomplete. It must be finalized first. He most likely will not be sentenced as the case should be throw out.
3. Thanks. My Kings English can be sketchy from time to time.
In short. Welcome back. The only thing in your post factually correct is number 3 and I always enjoy people correcting my English. It's good to have good servants to do that, you work cheap to.
The case should not be thrown out. There is no legitimate legal reason for the case to be thrown out at this point and a jury found Trump guilty.
Trump is a convicted felon. Simple as that.
A jury of humans, but hardly his peers
Like everything in government corrupt people eventually abuse the system for their own benefit. IMO no special council should ever be convened without Senate approval.
Who would be his peers? Only members of his cult who refuse to ever admit Trump does any wrong?
Yeah, that would have been a real fair jury lol.
You clowns are pitiful.
So in your opinion, no special counsel should be appointed as special counsel unless they are first approved by the Senate for that position? Correct?
Behold your Manhattan jury pool (sorry no_cents. You have to be over 18 to see this video)
I always enjoy people correcting my English, German and Spanish. Boy do I need it.
Yeah. Until the roles are reversed. Wait, your party is the witch hunt party, so they probably won’t.
What stereotype? 🤣🤣🤣
Holding someone responsible for possibly breaking the law under the rule of law is not a witch hunt.
Do you believe Republicans are engaged in a witch hunt concerning Hunter Biden? When they called for an investigation of President Biden over classified documents? Investigations of Hillary Clinton? Bill Clinton? Need I go on? Is all of this dIfFeReNt??
How you right-wingers can't see your own hypocrisy and foolishness is beyond me.
I want to know about 33,000 e-mails under subpoena scrubbed from a personal server. I want to know about Hunter's job with an Ukranian oil company when he has less knowledge than I about the nat gas industry.
This makes me foolish and a hypocrit?
This makes me foolish and a hypocrit?
You’re too far gone to engage rationally and intellectually. My bad, I’ll never do it again.
lol, lame.
Again, was it "witch hunts" in your opinion when Republicans wanted Hunter Biden, President Biden, Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, etc. investigated and/or charged with crimes? 2016, "lock her up." Witch hunt?
Don't run and hide now just because you can't deal with the truth and your own contractions.
And your delusion is profound.
You have no idea who I am or what I believe, and yet you call me a clown for stating the obvious.
Anyone who takes you seriously is a fool.
Don’t worry. No one takes him seriously.
Meanwhile Brandon was never supposed to have any Classified docs yet was let off by the Corrupt DOJ because he is too old and senile to charge him with any of it. 🤣🤣🤣
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