He is paralyzed. The lions are out to bring him down and they are embedded everywhere. These leaks are just the beginning. Check mate?
Trump can't move
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Is this asked because you think Pence is going to resign too or because you think Pence is going to be moving to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
trump will get this figured out and complete his dynasty....these little politicians don't know what dirty is.
The swamp cabal is absolutely trying to sabotage his administration.
They all hate him, don't they? He has gone brat mode and ripped the intelligence services, military, state department, about everybody at one point or another. The WH is a sieve -- and these are his own appointees! His own wife doesn't want to live with him IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
To know Biff is to hate Biff. This is what happens when you don't have leadership or management skills and for the first time in your life you don't have Daddy's money or the bankruptcy code to fall back on. Ugly.
There might actually be a legitimate point in here. Too bad you ruined with your personality. Ironic in a rant about a personality.
That's the great irony. The establishment hates him.
But most individuals (across a wide spectrum) who know Trump personally like him.
Trump was beloved by the black community until he threatened the establishment by running for president.
Be intellectually honest.....
From another board:
"The last thing that the Trump administration needs to do right now is panic and overreact. This is exactly what its enemies in the media and intelligence community are hoping for.
They are trying to create a crisis atmosphere early on, while the Trump team is still understaffed, disorganized, and new to the game. Their hope is that in such a crisis atmosphere Trump or some of the key players in his admin will stumble and make a costly mistake. There is simply no need to give them such a gift.
The thing to do is to dig in and carry on with business as usual. Keep filling out the administration, keep putting Trump loyalists in key positions and gradually replacing the old guard. Advance Trump's legislative agenda through Congress, and while doing so, learn the lay of the land and understand how the game is played. Do not fight the enemy while you're outgunned.
The truth is that for all their bluster and for all the screaming headlines in the WaPo and the NYT, the media and the leakers in the CIA that are feeding them do not have a strong hand to play. There is no evidence that Trump or anyone on his team has done anything illegal with respect to Russia or anything else; if there were such evidence we would know it already. All they have is vague insinuations about "communications" leading nowhere.
The headlines will eventually go away and be displaced by other news; Trump's enemies know this, they know their hand is not that strong and this is why they are trying to force a crisis right now. There is no need to buy into their frame. Time is on Trump's side, because he is president for at least the next four years, while a hostile bureaucracy can be be slowly and steadily replaced by shrewd appointments at key spots. This is how you consolidate power over time.
The thing to do is to get organized, establish a real chain of command, and make it clear that this is a long game and no one is going anywhere anytime soon. Do not give the media ghouls and their civil service and intelligence community enablers the crisis they crave and are counting on. You prevail by outlasting them. I hope Trump and his people will recognize this."
"The last thing that the Trump administration needs to do right now is panic and overreact. This is exactly what its enemies in the media and intelligence community are hoping for.
They are trying to create a crisis atmosphere early on, while the Trump team is still understaffed, disorganized, and new to the game. Their hope is that in such a crisis atmosphere Trump or some of the key players in his admin will stumble and make a costly mistake. There is simply no need to give them such a gift.
The thing to do is to dig in and carry on with business as usual. Keep filling out the administration, keep putting Trump loyalists in key positions and gradually replacing the old guard. Advance Trump's legislative agenda through Congress, and while doing so, learn the lay of the land and understand how the game is played. Do not fight the enemy while you're outgunned.
The truth is that for all their bluster and for all the screaming headlines in the WaPo and the NYT, the media and the leakers in the CIA that are feeding them do not have a strong hand to play. There is no evidence that Trump or anyone on his team has done anything illegal with respect to Russia or anything else; if there were such evidence we would know it already. All they have is vague insinuations about "communications" leading nowhere.
The headlines will eventually go away and be displaced by other news; Trump's enemies know this, they know their hand is not that strong and this is why they are trying to force a crisis right now. There is no need to buy into their frame. Time is on Trump's side, because he is president for at least the next four years, while a hostile bureaucracy can be be slowly and steadily replaced by shrewd appointments at key spots. This is how you consolidate power over time.
The thing to do is to get organized, establish a real chain of command, and make it clear that this is a long game and no one is going anywhere anytime soon. Do not give the media ghouls and their civil service and intelligence community enablers the crisis they crave and are counting on. You prevail by outlasting them. I hope Trump and his people will recognize this."
I think Trump underestimated how deep the swamp is and how filthy the inhabitants are. The mainstream media are owned and controlled by the multinational conglomerates who, together with others of their ilk, want the status quo to remain, as they had complete control over the Democrats foreign policy regarding trade (Obama let them write out trade deals for their own benefit without regard for the nation), while others were on their way to getting mass amnesty, open borders, and unlimited H-1b visas. They, individually or through their PACs have bought off the sell-out Republicans (RINOs), and both the latter and multinationals are happy to let the Dems pass social welfare programs that have the public pay for all the illegals - medical, public services, etc. Trump has thrown a monkey wrench in that, so it's now a battle between the citizens of the country and the oligarch wannabes who desperately want complete globalization and denationalization.
I will be shocked if they do not try to kill President Trump at some point.
I will be shocked if they do not try to kill President Trump at some point.
The problem on the surface with your last post is that his own appointees and people are eating him alive. Not just the career civil servants (or as you call them, "bureaucrats") but his White House staffers. Did you see Kellyanne yesterday? She's exhausted and tired from being out of the loop.
So no, "most individuals (across a wide spectrum) who know Trump personally like him" simply isn't true. His wife doesn't want to live with him. His own staffers sabotage him.
And please let me see where the black community loved him. Don't show me one black guy that he tipped or works for him -- I'm talking about black community stuff.
Always with the personal attacks. You should set down the anger, Harry. You'll be more productive, live longer and have better relationships.
Trump has plenty of moves as long as his hands are clean. The thing Obama never learned was that covering things up is so much worse than simply admitting the transgression and fixing it. It's one of the things that makes Obama the worst president in history.
It's not the swamp -- his own people have leaked this stuff.
So now we don't want our intelligence community monitoring russian communications? I mean, now we're supposed to be sheep and let Putin take over our government after the billions (Trillions in today's dollars, I'm sure) defeating that nation, we now collude with them to swing elections.
Russia didn't lose the cold war - with Biff in the WH they've won it at a tiny fraction of the cost we spent . They just need one corrupt President, that's all it takes!
LOL that's what I thought.
Anything from the NAACP? Elected blacks? They actually are democratically elected,so they presumably are representatives of black communities. I'll agree in a nation of 320 million you'll find some blacks that go with the conservative narrative. Your representation was black community -- let's see it. Are there any black caucuses? That'd be a good place to start wouldn't it?
Well, he's a two termer with better approval ratings leaving office than his predecessors. He didn't start wars like your last republican, didn't crater the economy like your last republican, didn't give up on killing Bin Laden, actually turned the economy around.... you keep pitching that fantasy.
Eminem used to be considered edgy, provocative, and could say anything he wanted.
But once he was told by his masters to diss Trump (in in 2017), he obeyed.
Trump introducing Eminem in 2004.
Kanye West said positive things about Trump, and was locked up.
But once he was told by his masters to diss Trump (in in 2017), he obeyed.
Trump introducing Eminem in 2004.
Kanye West said positive things about Trump, and was locked up.
I actually think Trump is okay with getting down and dirty. There are a lot of weasels working in government and in congress but the President has a big stick, these weasels are going to be in total shock when Trump brings it down on their head.
Trump and Sessions are the two most powerful people in Washington. Trump will not go down quietly.
Trump and Sessions are the two most powerful people in Washington. Trump will not go down quietly.
They're trying to beat him at his own game. IMO this is Trumps preferred environment. Chaos equals a better deal in his world.
His lack of tact has had the desired effect, its shown the depth of corruption in govt. That's what will end up resonating with the people.
This list is probably a good indication that I'm correct if that's all you can say for him.
You want to discuss it further. Start a new thread. No reason to derail this one.
You brought it up, not me. If you want to bring something up but don't want people to respond to it, perhaps you should start the thread?
You don't think Trump covers things up? Do you honestly believe that the reason we have not seen his tax returns is due to an IRS audit? I sure would like to know what he is hiding. Today, I am especially interested in finding out about any business dealings in Russia. Something about this Russia thing does not pass the smell test. I'm not saying he is guilty of conspiring with the Russians, or that he has a conflict of interest with Russia, but I would definitely like to know more.
Now we've gone from rubber room Kanye liking Biff to NSA wikileaks... congrats, I officially can't keep up with your shotgun approach to message board posting. You've won.
Let me ask you something in all seriousness. Would it bother you if Biff conspired with a foreign enemy to steal DNC's emails? Do you even see anything wrong with that?
Trump needs to run silent. Run deep. But he won't, it's not his style. Hopefully he hasn't broken any laws. I can see how he could unknowingly break a law...not being in any political office before. But as the officer tells me on the side of the road...ignorance of the law isn't an excuse. I like Pence if things crater. But the sore losers have now upped the game on hate.
The timeline of Biff saying crazy, pro-Putin stuff with these phone calls and him encouraging Russia to hack the DNC is pretty damning. It's increasingly looking like Trump pulled a Nixon and was involved in some seriously shady shit. I'm screaming it from the roof tops : He's a sociopath, has no internal morality, and that's a huge weakness. He can't stay out of trouble because he has no intuitive sense of right and wrong -- only self interest.
C'mon...there is at least some evidence that Flynn violated the Logan Act don't you think?
I get impassioned defense and the adminstration doesn't really have much option but to forge on, but this is a bit overboard IMO.
My point is that Trump isn't trapped in a corner. There's an opportunity to do something here that hasn't been done in the past administration. It's the reason a lot of people claimed to have voting for him on; stopping the political shell game in DC.
Find out what happened, fix it, punish the guilty, and move on.
What?
You do know about the 1973 federal lawsuit brought against Trump and his company for racial discrimination at his housing developments. Or Trump comments concerning the Central Park Five case that got him in hot water?
Good response. I'm not a Trump fan, but I do keep hoping that he will get out of his own way and do some things to change the DC way of doing business.
But, if he continues to stonewall on the release of his tax returns, I don't see how it can happen. The shadow of "conflict of interest" is going to dog every change that he makes.
Why do I think?
Personally, I think it is because he is a fraud and doesn't want anyone to dispute his narrative that he is a billionaire and one of the elite businessmen in the world. I don't think he is nearly as wealthy as he wants us all to think he is.
Does the line change on what's morally correct change depending on whether someone is guilty or not? I'd say no, but I don't give a damn about partisan politics.
