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Trump and transgenders

... he wants grown men using the same bathroom as your little girl.

Nice job "conservatives."
Curt Schilling got fired for stating his opinion on this. I agree 100% with him and thought the same thing. I wouldn't want some "dude" trailing my wife and daughter into a women's restroom. I can't believe how far we've fallen..
 
Restrooms are about plumbing, not gender association.

Solution is to stop calling them men's and women's rooms and start calling them innie and outtie rooms.
 
Convicted Sex Offender Leads Transgender Rights Effort in North Carolina
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by AUSTIN RUSE7 Mar 201613,057

The homosexual leader of efforts in North Carolina to allow men to use women’s bathrooms is a convicted and registered sex offender,according to documents made available to Breitbart News.
Chad Sevearance is president of the Charlotte Business Guild, which describes itself as “a network of LGBT professionals, business owners, employees and individuals in the Charlotte area who meet to nurture a network of business contacts; encourage fellowship and support among community business, professional and charitable pursuits; and provide and promote positive role models in the LGBT community.”

Sevearance and his group have taken a lead role in seeking the right to allow males to use the restrooms and showers of females, including those of little girls, which is described by advocates as nothing more than nondiscrimination measures. Sevearance was quoted in the Charlotte Observer saying that because a recent bathroom “nondiscrimination ordinance” bill did not pass, “someone can ask me to leave a restaurant because I’m presumed to be gay or transgender.”

In 1998, Sevearance worked as a youth minister and in that capacity allegedly lured younger men to his apartment to spend the night where Severance showed them pornography and tried to talk them into sex. One boy testified that he woke up to find Severance “fondling him.” Severance was convicted on one charge of sexual molestation of a minor.

As a result of his 2000 conviction, Sevearance must register with the police on a regular basis for a minimum of ten years. His most recent mug shot and registration took place at the end of last year.

A reporter with the Charlotte Observer confirmed for Breitbart News that the Chad Sevearance they frequently quote is the same man who was convicted for sexual assault of a minor in 2000.

Repeated calls to the Charlotte Business Guild went unanswered.

Both the webpage and the Facebook page of Severance’s group have been disabled.
 
I have no problem with gay marriage. This is just absurd though.
 
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1. The NC law is unenforceable.

2. The people who would be breaking it the vast majority of the time would look far more out of place in the original plumbing restroom because they are typically all the way or very far down the hormone and surgery road.

We are DOOOOMED
 
I think the entire movement has little to do with transgenders feeling comfortable in restrooms and much more to do with society as a whole accepting their lifestyle.

Practically, men's and women's restrooms have stalls...if you're a man that is uncomfortable standing next to another man to piss go in a damn stall. What an absolute waste of time over an unenforceable law written to address an idiotic issue.
 
Four questions/observations.

1. Is this person going to cause more of a stir if they use a men's room or a women's room? And if he goes into a men's room, who is in charge of checking his dick to make sure it's original issue? I would be a lot more concerned about the person that wants that job.

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2. If this woman walked into a women's room, closed the stall and took a leak, who is going to be endangered? If she went into the mens' room, she might find herself in danger, no?

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3. The biggest danger "little girls" or boys face from adults is sexual predation from pedophiles. Being transgendered is not the same as being a pedophile and they are just as, if not more likely to face danger from this kind of person in a bathroom when it's a regular looking, naturally assigned person in the right room, who has passed muster with the junk police.

4. The statistical probability of encountering a transitioning or post-op person in a bathroom is very low to begin with, and I'm pretty sure people are not going to stop taking shits just because of it, if it does happen.

This is the stupidest f'ing thing to talk about at the national level that's come along in a long time and that's saying something.
 
I have zero concerns about actual transgendered folks. They're as interested in peoples junk as the rest of us. All of my concern rests with the sick mofos of these here States that are very opportunistic, young and old alike.

I don't want my wife and daughters fearing who might be lurking in the next stall. Does separate and clearly sexed restrooms solve all of that? Nope. But it does cast the index of suspicion when some lady with a five o'clock shadow and a Peggy Bundy wig saunters in to pop a squat. Right now that raises eyebrows and rightfully so. When having legitimate concerns about the appropriateness of restroom choice becomes hateful and potentially criminal, that's where the real potential danger begins.
 
Pervy dudes using cell phones to film gals take a shower or using the bathroom.

Officials at the University of Toronto were forced to eliminate their “gender neutral” bathroom policy after a string of incidents involving women being filmed while showering. On at least two separate occasions last month, female students spotted cell phones being held over the stall partition to record them while they bathed. The perpetrators have not been caught. No word yet on whether the victims will sue the University for putting them at risk with the policy, which restricted women’s ability to bathe and use the toilet away from the presence of men"
 
If I could only bottle the energy that conservatives have for public restrooms... from Larry CraIg to this debate, it always circles back to public restrooms. Why?
 
Here's something about restroom urinals: If there are 5 of them against the wall the rule is you at least urinate with a space between the stalls (unless all 5 stalls are filled). Give me my urinating space!

(Sorry, this should be in the world's worst person thread.)

@syskatine likely gives no space at all in 5 stall urinals.
 
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Here's something about restroom urinals: If there are 5 of them against the wall the rule is you at least urinate with a space between the stalls (unless all 5 stalls are filled). Give me my urinating space!

(Sorry, this should be in the world's worst person thread.)

@syskatine likely gives no space at all in 5 stall urinals.

You freeze, don't you?

They house of reps GOP should have their own public bathroom committee and caucus. It would be very influential within the party.
 
Here's something about restroom urinals: If there are 5 of them against the wall the rule is you at least urinate with a space between the stalls (unless all 5 stalls are filled). Give me my urinating space!

(Sorry, this should be in the world's worst person thread.)

@syskatine likely gives no space at all in 5 stall urinals.
Huh? syskatine squats to piss.
 
This whole debate is ridiculous. A lot of places have unisex bathrooms. It's no big deal.

Having said that, I don't like businesses being forced to do it or being forced to let people use whatever bathroom they want.
 
This whole issue exploded when the parents of a middle school aged student sued a school district to allow their child to use the restroom of their choosing. The school had been allowing the student to use a faculty restroom, but the parents felt that accomodation was not enough and wanted the right of their daughter (biological son) to use the girls bathroom in school.
 
With an extension of "rights" comes an extension of accountability and norms around said "rights."

As such, consequences for behavior outside of norms is the next logical step to prevent "status quo" bathroom visits from being made...different than status quo.

That's the flip side that has yet to unfold with this new push for "rights" in random areas.

If Tom considers himself a woman and takes to nice, long bathroom breaks every time Nancy in accounting goes, and non-norm behavior can be documented (how? I don't know...an issue for another post), then with an extension of the "right" to use the women's restroom in a predictable way needs to be the forcefully executed laws preventing pervs from perving.

With this thinking goes the assumption that men in women's bodies, and vice versa, would modestly go about their business in typical womanly or manly fashion, absent making a "big deal" about it.

If nothing else, if all these new "rights" continue apace, I expect bathrooms to be much cleaner but with more clogged bowls.
 
With an extension of "rights" comes an extension of accountability and norms around said "rights."

As such, consequences for behavior outside of norms is the next logical step to prevent "status quo" bathroom visits from being made...different than status quo.

That's the flip side that has yet to unfold with this new push for "rights" in random areas.

If Tom considers himself a woman and takes to nice, long bathroom breaks every time Nancy in accounting goes, and non-norm behavior can be documented (how? I don't know...an issue for another post), then with an extension of the "right" to use the women's restroom in a predictable way needs to be the forcefully executed laws preventing pervs from perving.

With this thinking goes the assumption that men in women's bodies, and vice versa, would modestly go about their business in typical womanly or manly fashion, absent making a "big deal" about it.

If nothing else, if all these new "rights" continue apace, I expect bathrooms to be much cleaner but with more clogged bowls.
The losers in all this are women who like clean bathrooms and men who like short bathroom lines at sporting events/concerts.
 
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Sorry, but the biggest issue will be: I'll wash mine as fast as I want to, wherever. It will all come down to what the definition of mine "is".
 
Here's something about restroom urinals: If there are 5 of them against the wall the rule is you at least urinate with a space between the stalls (unless all 5 stalls are filled). Give me my urinating space!

(Sorry, this should be in the world's worst person thread.)

@syskatine likely gives no space at all in 5 stall urinals.
What about the restrooms with a trough which are/were in many older stadiums?
 
this is why you have to fight liberals whether you agree with a specific piece of legislation or not. The second the gay marriage thing was won (I'm fine with it, but wouldn't vote for it) they moved on to this crap. As soon as we have bearded men in skirts pissing in the women's room it will be something else. As a conservative you have to drag your feet on all social issues no matter how old fashioned they are. Sad but the long term strategy of liberals has no end game. Ask somebody 70 years old if they could have dreamed the things liberals propose now. Then use your brain to just try and imagine what your great grandkids liberal friends are going to be fighting for.
 
I did not know this until I read it in an article today. But apparently transgender individuals can get their sex changed on their birth certificate.
 
this is why you have to fight liberals whether you agree with a specific piece of legislation or not. The second the gay marriage thing was won (I'm fine with it, but wouldn't vote for it) they moved on to this crap. As soon as we have bearded men in skirts pissing in the women's room it will be something else. As a conservative you have to drag your feet on all social issues no matter how old fashioned they are. Sad but the long term strategy of liberals has no end game. Ask somebody 70 years old if they could have dreamed the things liberals propose now. Then use your brain to just try and imagine what your great grandkids liberal friends are going to be fighting for.

Were contemporary conservatives right in dragging their feet when it comes to abolishing slavery/woman's suffrage/CRA of '64?
 
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