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Torture kids = MAGA

Gotta win Scrabble!

And their puppetmasters in a cubicle deciding the talking points have successfully got them to not give one single solitary eff about the kids -- it's about what a congresswoman from Queens said that matters. Screw little kids, they shouldn't have came. You can not write this stuff.

You see how atrocities happen -- people are just so gawddammed dumb they can be propaganda'd into setting down basic values.
 
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The only problem is the nomenclature -- what's happening is fine.

You know temporarily separating kids from parents (or, frequently in this case) renters or abductors is not the human rights crisis you pretend to worry about it being.

We know you know it.

You know we know you know it.

And yet you persist.

Why?
 
You know temporarily separating kids from parents (or, frequently in this case) renters or abductors is not the human rights crisis you pretend to worry about it being.

We know you know it.

You know we know you know it.

And yet you persist.

Why?
Hey dad, what'd you do during the great brown kiddie roundup?

I corrected them on their nomenclature. It wasn't a concentration camp, we allowed the children to spend time with other children behind freedom wire.
 
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What do you propose?

Oh lock their little asses up. Kids need to be taught a lesson. No adults -- let the little ones look after each other.

I'm confident reasonable people can find common ground well north of what that article describes. Surely you're not defending that.
 
Yes, let’s take the word of activist lawyer Holly Cooper’s word for it. Her definition of a “refugee” doesn’t align at all with our own legal standards. She’s even said things like the US has “incentivized the economics of the refugee crisis” and that we profit from human misery in the US.


Now before you crazy folks get into a tizzy about President Trump and her comments... she said these things before he was even elected in 2016. This $hit has been going on for years and years and years with no solutions. Our Government as a whole including multiple Presidents as well as Congress has failed us beyond relief.
 
Oh lock their little asses up. Kids need to be taught a lesson. No adults -- let the little ones look after each other.

I'm confident reasonable people can find common ground well north of what that article describes. Surely you're not defending that.

What do you propose. I’m not trying to goad you so please don’t deflect, because I’m interested in what your solution is.
 
I don't get it. We don't want a wall to stop them from coming as its a 'medieval' solution and there are better methods of catching/stopping crossers. But all of those alternates require increased manpower and funding for DHS to enact, yet the same individuals against the cheap/medieval solution, also don't want to authorize spending for more judges, beds, and other amenities to process the immigrants and allow the true asylum cases in while 'hopefully' keeping the riff-raff (think MS13) out. I would love to actually hear what anyone on the left here thinks is an acceptable solution for the immigration issue? Frankly, Dems sound a LOT like Republicans arguing against ObamaCare on this issue to me. Whining about what's being done but offering jack diddly shit in real alternatives.
 
What do you propose. I’m not trying to goad you so please don’t deflect, because I’m interested in what your solution is.

Solution to..? At what stage?

Macro immigration: I'd legalize all the cartel drug revenue for one, and have a generous and real citizenship process, and if it really is this awful, terrible, bleeding problem, pull out of Asia and start manifest destinying the shit out of central america. Probably past time for pax americana. Cast our eye south, clean house, stars and stripes from one pole to the other, bitches. Summer vacay is drive to Patagonia eating McD's at every exit. Amazon national forest?

I'm skeptical we're having this existential crisis these people scream about. I have seen the people attending Trump rallies. I see the politics and shitty motivations of the people screaming about this. Hello? Thats my first inquiry.

Assuming arguendo you have to take kids into custody, you have some compassion. People have no idea the trauma that puts a kid through. Walk through mexico with Momma and now you're behind freedom wire w 25 unsupervised kids in an attention deficit disorder camp or whatever they insist it be called.
 
Solution to..? At what stage?

Macro immigration: I'd legalize all the cartel drug revenue for one, and have a generous and real citizenship process, and if it really is this awful, terrible, bleeding problem, pull out of Asia and start manifest destinying the shit out of central america. Probably past time for pax americana. Cast our eye south, clean house, stars and stripes from one pole to the other, bitches. Summer vacay is drive to Patagonia eating McD's at every exit. Amazon national forest?

I'm skeptical we're having this existential crisis these people scream about. I have seen the people attending Trump rallies. I see the politics and shitty motivations of the people screaming about this. Hello? Thats my first inquiry.

Assuming arguendo you have to take kids into custody, you have some compassion. People have no idea the trauma that puts a kid through. Walk through mexico with Momma and now you're behind freedom wire w 25 unsupervised kids in an attention deficit disorder camp or whatever they insist it be called.
You'd have our uniformed officials doing face to face, big money business with unstable, armed thugs with itchy trigger fingers?

Surely you're yanking us about that insane shit. Please, say you were.
 
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Solution to..? At what stage?

Macro immigration: I'd legalize all the cartel drug revenue for one, and have a generous and real citizenship process, and if it really is this awful, terrible, bleeding problem, pull out of Asia and start manifest destinying the shit out of central america. Probably past time for pax americana. Cast our eye south, clean house, stars and stripes from one pole to the other, bitches. Summer vacay is drive to Patagonia eating McD's at every exit. Amazon national forest?

I'm skeptical we're having this existential crisis these people scream about. I have seen the people attending Trump rallies. I see the politics and shitty motivations of the people screaming about this. Hello? Thats my first inquiry.

Assuming arguendo you have to take kids into custody, you have some compassion. People have no idea the trauma that puts a kid through. Walk through mexico with Momma and now you're behind freedom wire w 25 unsupervised kids in an attention deficit disorder camp or whatever they insist it be called.

Am I misreading this as invade and take over Central America to make it better? Is that really your meaning behind "manifest destiny the shit out of it"? I guess you are trolling, which just means you don't have a real answer for the immigration crisis.

I actually agree with your recommendation to legalize drugs as it would hammer the cartels and bring 'black market' money into the light for taxation, but I don't see how that stops or even slows down the 5K people per day that are crossing the border. Nor does it solve the "concentration camp" and child separation issues that we are enforcing against our brown neighbors.
 
You'd have our uniformed officials doing face to face, big money business with unstable, armed thugs with itchy trigger fingers?

Surely you're yanking us about that insane shit. Please, say you were.

Cocaine $4.00 per lb.

Heroine $6.25 per lb.

Syskatine peacock bass trips: 2/year.

We'll have to break a couple eggs, but we'll be greeted as liberators. Its a slam dunk.
 
Am I misreading this as invade and take over Central America to make it better? Is that really your meaning behind "manifest destiny the shit out of it"? I guess you are trolling, which just means you don't have a real answer for the immigration crisis.

I actually agree with your recommendation to legalize drugs as it would hammer the cartels and bring 'black market' money into the light for taxation, but I don't see how that stops or even slows down the 5K people per day that are crossing the border. Nor does it solve the "concentration camp" and child separation issues that we are enforcing against our brown neighbors.

"Invade" is so drama queen. Think strategic acquisitions.
 
I love that leftists talk like this. It just drives reasonable left leaning people out of the Democratic party.
 
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I love that leftists talk like this. It just drives reasonable left leaning people out of the Democratic party.

it would if the media would actually ask these kinds of questions. But unfortunately, they don't. Noone asks AOC, what is her solution to the concentration camp issue or why the Dem's refuse to fund ICE and DHS to support more 'humane' actions. Like I said above, FoxNews never asked any of the Repubs what replacing ObamaCare actually looked like. They just pushed the message that the R's were gonna do it. The Left media is doing the same thing here. They are happy to snap pictures and talk about why this must be Trump's fault, but refuse to actually ask (or publish) what the alternative is. And thus just like R's won with a "repeal and replace (with nothing)" plan, the Dems are winning with a "OMG the children (that we don't care about or have our own plan for)".
 
it would if the media would actually ask these kinds of questions. But unfortunately, they don't. Noone asks AOC, what is her solution to the concentration camp issue or why the Dem's refuse to fund ICE and DHS to support more 'humane' actions. Like I said above, FoxNews never asked any of the Repubs what replacing ObamaCare actually looked like. They just pushed the message that the R's were gonna do it. The Left media is doing the same thing here. They are happy to snap pictures and talk about why this must be Trump's fault, but refuse to actually ask (or publish) what the alternative is. And thus just like R's won with a "repeal and replace (with nothing)" plan, the Dems are winning with a "OMG the children (that we don't care about or have our own plan for)".
That was compellingly good.
 
Solution to..? At what stage?

Macro immigration: I'd legalize all the cartel drug revenue for one, and have a generous and real citizenship process, and if it really is this awful, terrible, bleeding problem, pull out of Asia and start manifest destinying the shit out of central america. Probably past time for pax americana. Cast our eye south, clean house, stars and stripes from one pole to the other, bitches. Summer vacay is drive to Patagonia eating McD's at every exit. Amazon national forest?

I'm skeptical we're having this existential crisis these people scream about. I have seen the people attending Trump rallies. I see the politics and shitty motivations of the people screaming about this. Hello? Thats my first inquiry.

Assuming arguendo you have to take kids into custody, you have some compassion. People have no idea the trauma that puts a kid through. Walk through mexico with Momma and now you're behind freedom wire w 25 unsupervised kids in an attention deficit disorder camp or whatever they insist it be called.

Takeaways...

1. We “acquire” sovereign nations full of “brown” people, to colonize and empire build.

2. We legalize and legitimize cartel commerce of heroine and fentanyl.

3. You hate nearly half of your fellow Americans so much that you feel sociopathically that you know their motivations from watching them in the background of overflowing Trump rallies - and conclude they are “screaming” about a crisis that doesn’t exist. And yet.....

4. The nonexistent crisis is producing a lamentable stream of innocent mother child duos being preyed upon by uncompassionate border patrol. And yet...

5. You still offer no solution to the so-called problem of detention of minors beyond “compassion.”

Be specific.

Turn the kids loose? Keep the mom? Turn both loose? What does compassionate detention look like? What would lunatics like AOC not try to compare to nazis?
 
it would if the media would actually ask these kinds of questions. But unfortunately, they don't. Noone asks AOC, what is her solution to the concentration camp issue or why the Dem's refuse to fund ICE and DHS to support more 'humane' actions. Like I said above, FoxNews never asked any of the Repubs what replacing ObamaCare actually looked like. They just pushed the message that the R's were gonna do it. The Left media is doing the same thing here. They are happy to snap pictures and talk about why this must be Trump's fault, but refuse to actually ask (or publish) what the alternative is. And thus just like R's won with a "repeal and replace (with nothing)" plan, the Dems are winning with a "OMG the children (that we don't care about or have our own plan for)".
You are making sense
 
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Solution to..? At what stage?

Macro immigration: I'd legalize all the cartel drug revenue for one, and have a generous and real citizenship process, and if it really is this awful, terrible, bleeding problem, pull out of Asia and start manifest destinying the shit out of central america. Probably past time for pax americana. Cast our eye south, clean house, stars and stripes from one pole to the other, bitches. Summer vacay is drive to Patagonia eating McD's at every exit. Amazon national forest?

I'm skeptical we're having this existential crisis these people scream about. I have seen the people attending Trump rallies. I see the politics and shitty motivations of the people screaming about this. Hello? Thats my first inquiry.

Assuming arguendo you have to take kids into custody, you have some compassion. People have no idea the trauma that puts a kid through. Walk through mexico with Momma and now you're behind freedom wire w 25 unsupervised kids in an attention deficit disorder camp or whatever they insist it be called.

Lots of words to say you don’t know. It’s really easy to point in shock and horror, but much harder to create a solution.

It bothers me that, for some, it’s easier to believe the border is manned by monsters - intent on harming kids - than the fact illegal migration can and does bring in criminal element.
 
Lots of words to say you don’t know. It’s really easy to point in shock and horror, but much harder to create a solution.

Macro immigration: I'd legalize all the cartel drug revenue for one, and have a generous and real citizenship process, and if it really is this awful, terrible, bleeding problem, pull out of Asia and start manifest destinying the shit out of central america. Probably past time for pax americana

I'm skeptical we're having this existential crisis these people scream about. I have seen the people attending Trump rallies. I see the politics and shitty motivations of the people screaming about this. Hello? Thats my first inquiry.

Assuming arguendo you have to take kids into custody, you have some compassion. People have no idea the trauma that puts a kid through. Walk through mexico with Momma and now you're behind freedom wire w 25 unsupervised kids in an attention deficit disorder camp or whatever they insist it be called.

No it's not. Bring a toothbrush to them. Give them sanitation, food and adult supervision, at a minimum. That's complicated?

I think you're the first one on here that's had a take besides try to defend abusing the kids.

Edit: No you didn't. Looks like the treatment of the kids went unaddressed in your comments. Huh.

"I just for the life of me cant' figure out how we could treat these kids humanely. It's such a tough job, after you pull kids away from their moms, to give them soap and a toothbrush. I hope nobody is being mean to the people incarcerating the kids."
 
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No it's not. Bring a toothbrush to them. Give them sanitation, food and adult supervision, at a minimum. That's complicated?
For the record, they get all of that, and saying otherwise is a BS narrative (and you know it). They have sanitary facilities (as much as possible given the overcrowded and underfunded conditions) which are nicer than what thousands of our own homeless in San Fran and other cities live in. They get healthcare, food, and supervision. Now supervision doesn't mean 24 hour babysitting for each child in order to wipe every nose and console every cry, which seems to be what this article expects.

Edit: By the way, if you want your kid to have a toothbrush, maybe you should have brought in on the journey.
 
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