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To All the Gun Control Advocates

It's a close race to see which is more orgasmic to dem/libs---single payer or gun confiscation.
 
First off, I am a gun owner and a Republican...........Gun control is going to happen whether its 5 years from now or 50 years, but the longer it is put off the harsher it is going to be..........I have said for many years that the biggest threat to this country is the NRA. They represent less than .25% of the population, but dictate laws that effect the other 99.75%.........
 
First off, I am a gun owner and a Republican...........Gun control is going to happen whether its 5 years from now or 50 years, but the longer it is put off the harsher it is going to be..........I have said for many years that the biggest threat to this country is the NRA. They represent less than .25% of the population, but dictate laws that effect the other 99.75%.........
This is arguably the most chilling comment I have read on this board. Every traditional/establishment Republican will be nodding vigorously in agreement, while the gun banning crowd will be smiling inwardly, knowing they have just won the battle, it’s just a matter of time.

The hell with principle! We’re better off relinquishing our freedom piecemeal. Much more satisfactory than losing it all at once. Is that your message? I mean, we’re going to lose our freedom anyway, why fight it?

As sad as it makes me to say, I think there are a lot of people who think like you. And you’ll be the ones responsible - five or fifty years from now - when our country’s legacy as the freest nation in history is extinguished.
 
I am not for taking people's guns away, quite the contrary, but , eventually it is going to happen unless we adopt some common sense measures, but the NRA stands in the way of everything proposed. I used to have no feelings one way or the other towards the NRA until they sent me a survey, asking me to fill out and send to my representative, every question was a leading question, and I thought if they really felt they were right , they wouldn't have to do that, so I started looking in to what they do, and it's down right alarming
 
I am not for taking people's guns away, quite the contrary, but , eventually it is going to happen unless we adopt some common sense measures, but the NRA stands in the way of everything proposed. I used to have no feelings one way or the other towards the NRA until they sent me a survey, asking me to fill out and send to my representative, every question was a leading question, and I thought if they really felt they were right , they wouldn't have to do that, so I started looking in to what they do, and it's down right alarming
Screw the NRA. It’s the 2nd Amendment you are betraying. It’s your own freedom you are turning your back on. We either have freedom or we don’t. Your attitude guarantees we won’t have it for long.
 
I spent 21 years in the US Military defending mine and your rights , don't ever say I am betraying our freedoms. How long have you spent serving your country?
 
I spent 21 years in the US Military defending mine and your rights , don't ever say I am betraying our freedoms. How long have you spent serving your country?
Four from 1969 to 1972. Your attitude is a betrayal whether you want to admit it or not.
 
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Four from 1969 to 1972. Your attitude is a betrayal whether you want to admit it or not.
How is that? As I said I am not for taking away people's guns, I am not even overly in favor or gun control, but it is my opinion that it will happen eventually. The biggest problem I have is the NRA because an organization with that few percentage of the population should not posses the influence they do.
 
First off, I am a gun owner and a Republican...........Gun control is going to happen whether its 5 years from now or 50 years, but the longer it is put off the harsher it is going to be..........I have said for many years that the biggest threat to this country is the NRA. They represent less than .25% of the population, but dictate laws that effect the other 99.75%.........
Just because most people aren't dues paying members I guarantee the NRA has a much larger percentage of supporters than you are giving them credit for.

I feel just the opposite. The more people scream about gun control the more support the NRA gets.

Liberal Democrats have been hemorrhaging elected office for years now. Their only hope of turning it around is to import a whole lot of low information voters.

You want to see what real civil unrest looks like start taking constitutional rights away from law abiding citizens. Right now people don't feel they are losing their rights so much as there are people on the left who would like to limit them but don't have the power to do it. If that rhetoric becomes reality then you will see a shit storm of resistance.

If Trump can get a couple of old fossils off the Supreme Court I'd feel much better about Constitutional Rights being protected for the long haul.
 
And there you have the problem, and people like you will eventually lead to no one being allowed to own guns, it will
Happen eventually
Wrong. You can't legislate the 2nd Amendment out of existence any more than you can the 1st. The 2nd Amendment didn't create the right. It only puts restriction on the government.

Even if the 2nd Amendment were repealed (it won't be), that doesn't remove my right to self defense and to keep and bear arms.
 
And there you have the problem, and people like you will eventually lead to no one being allowed to own guns, it will Happen eventually

It'll take a constutional amendment in order to accomplish what you are saying. If if that happens, I'd expect a lot of states to secede.
 
Again I not advocating taking guns away, all I am saying is the way things are going, there is a tipping point where it will get bad enough that something will be done, and the longer and worse it gets the harsher it will be when it comes.
 
It'll take a constutional amendment in order to accomplish what you are saying. If if that happens, I'd expect a lot of states to secede.
I worked in the US Government long enough to know there are numerous agencies that can and do enact "regulations " that have the same effect as laws that can infringe on our Constitutional rights, and they don't have to go through Congress or the Senate to enact them. Do you think the ATF is going to have to get Congressional approval to ban bump stocks?
 
Again I not advocating taking guns away, all I am saying is the way things are going, there is a tipping point where it will get bad enough that something will be done, and the longer and worse it gets the harsher it will be when it comes.
Yeah, what will be done?

The government doesn't grant rights, and they can't take them away. They can try, but that's why we're an armed society.
 
The Government can declare a national emergency and suspend our constitutional rights, as I said there is a tipping point, maybe it will never be reached , but I would not bet on it
 
They don't need congressional approval, that's why the NRA suggested it, it does not start a Congressional debate on gun control

If I understand correctly, the ATF has already determined that a bump stock is not a firearm and is permissible under existing statute. They did this back in 2010. I don’t see them reversing their decision. Hence, I predict new legislation will sail through Congress with little delay.
 
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Mostz peoples biggest gripe about Government is how they are influenced by the Lobbyists groups, and you want to trust the largest.........
You're not even attempting to be honest here. The NRA isn't even in the top 50. Intentional deceit or just a lack of knowledge? Serious question.
 
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Mostz peoples biggest gripe about Government is how they are influenced by the Lobbyists groups, and you want to trust the largest.........

The NRA doesn’t crack the top 50 political contributors. When you’re getting your ass kicked by the National Association of Realtors and the Chicago Cubs, you really need to step up your game if you want to be a giant in the world of lobbying:
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
 
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I am not for taking people's guns away, quite the contrary, but , eventually it is going to happen unless we adopt some common sense measures, but the NRA stands in the way of everything proposed. I used to have no feelings one way or the other towards the NRA until they sent me a survey, asking me to fill out and send to my representative, every question was a leading question, and I thought if they really felt they were right , they wouldn't have to do that, so I started looking in to what they do, and it's down right alarming
Are you suggesting that the US people give up a little bit of their rights now because if they don't, they will lose them all in the future? Where's the logic in that? Seems like the reverse is more likely in that you give a little now, they'll keep taking and taking and taking.
 
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