The truth about blaming Russia
- Thread starter MegaPoke
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It wasn't.
A 10th grader could have hacked Hillary's e-mails that we all seem to forget, were transmitted illegally on an unsecured account.
In many cases, passwords were given away in the e-mails themselves.
Regarding security, the persons hacked were morons of the highest order.
A lot of what you said I simply don't agree with and isn't true, and this one certainly isn't.
I helped build most all of the OIs and worked all of the test beds and new GUIs and whatnot for the infrastructure, operating systems, interfaces and other items of the OC at 624/24AF and either you don't have access to the info they do because of security reasons or you don't know all the stuff they do.
Embedded source codes make it easy to attribute where they come from. Most WANT you to know but we can't release how and why we know that.
Not all 'state actors' originate from their own country (NK certainly does't).
We know almost always who and where it is coming from, and know most connections from places to other actors, just like a big string map.
Again, political affiliations are driving the opinions of the intelligence community in this thread, causing people to push off the notion simply because it goes against their 'side.' Having to explain yourself as to why you think the pedo ring is more plausible than the CIA is, once again, simply insane to fathom.
You would rather believe random internet conspiracies than the CIA because you don't agree with the CIA in the past. Really????
I'm sorry, and I know you don't care, but that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard... ever... and I'm sure you are happy but I know give any of you zero credibility for just completely dismissing this as a political notion. I'm so frustrated and embarrassed that people who were educated at my school would be so completely closed minded that I can't even type, and I'm completely done with this forum, which should be renamed the 'If you don't like our close minded political opinions please come and let us personally attack you' forum.
Did I miss something? It appears you are conflating Ostatedchi w/ MegaPoke. Maybe I missed something though.
http://www.darkreading.com/attacks-...x-employee-or-all-of-the-above/d/d-id/1318418
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tled-former-employee-named-Lena-laid-off.html
http://www.eweek.com/security/security-community-debates-source-of-sony-pictures-hack.html
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...d-sony-pictures-it-probably-wasnt-north-korea
Kinda weird that you think other people are close(d) minded when after I asked for debate in the OP, your initial contribution included negative assumptions about my beliefs and political affiliations - and concluded they were the only factors to lead me to give credibility to #pizzagate while being skeptical about the CIA's (as yet, baseless, sourceless and nebulous) statements on the Russians' involvement with the election. All of this before attacking me about there being something wrong with this opinion on an elementary level.
Pro Tip, when pissed off, never post the first thing that comes to mind. It's almost always going to make you look like an ass.
Being done with the forum is probably a good idea though if it makes you so angry you can't type.
The only correction here is that the DNC breach probably wasn't via Hillary's personal email server. The data was collected via other methods. (most likely)
But I'm sure that Mike has some super secret resource that allows him to authoritatively attribute breach activities to a specific group. He's smarter than the folks at TripWire, Dark Reading, Scientific American, the Info Sec Institute, SANS, Symantec, et all. (notice I omitted Kaspersky Labs?)
It would take outside human intelligence as opposed to technical dissection.
In one post you've exposed yourself as either so ignorant or biased that your opinion is no longer valid. Dismissed.
It would take outside human intelligence as opposed to technical dissection.
In one post you've exposed yourself as either so ignorant or biased that your opinion is no longer valid. Dismissed.
No I would love to know who hacked the emails. Because it probably wasn't Russia.
Just look back to what the US did in Russia in 2011 and the answer for Putin's dislike of Clinton, and POSSIBLE hacking of the DNC emails, is readily apparent. The best part is a media quote from the Guardian regarding Putin. Oh, the irony...
"Putin has often accused the west of meddling in Russian affairs, a tested tactic to deflect attention away from the country's problems."
Maybe this is part of Putin's dislike of Clinton...
For all the libs!
Hey Mike, and I've said this before...if the "R's" had done the same thing and been exposed I would not be in the least offended and would want them routed in the following elections. The irony continues to be not that the emails were hacked (as I've said before I think its an inside job) but what was in the emails, and you call this group close minded and partisan...that's a stretch man.
Since your throwing out all the stuff you did with the military as well, what does the military say about using non-secured servers, sending emails with passwords via those unsecured servers and communicating classified info (even if not marked your suppose to be cognizant enough to understand what it is your transmitting) via those servers...even to people with no security clearance. Your just as close minded as all the people your accusing of being closed minded pal.
The CIA has been wrong so many times it is pathetic! I don't think the rank and file CIA is as squirrely as the upper management though and certainly they fight a battle that includes members of their own government who's primary goal is to advance their own agenda/career and not rock the boat. The susceptibility of those people to lie is through the roof and my guess is when most thought that POS Clinton would be elected they acted accordingly, so they could continue their climb to ass kissing heaven in the white house.
Lastly, if you really believe in what you say and you're not being partisan, then you wouldn't run off and leave the board, but would stay and continue to fight the good fight. Good luck man!
Hey Mike, and I've said this before...if the "R's" had done the same thing and been exposed I would not be in the least offended and would want them routed in the following elections. The irony continues to be not that the emails were hacked (as I've said before I think its an inside job) but what was in the emails, and you call this group close minded and partisan...that's a stretch man.
Since your throwing out all the stuff you did with the military as well, what does the military say about using non-secured servers, sending emails with passwords via those unsecured servers and communicating classified info (even if not marked your suppose to be cognizant enough to understand what it is your transmitting) via those servers...even to people with no security clearance. Your just as close minded as all the people your accusing of being closed minded pal.
The CIA has been wrong so many times it is pathetic! I don't think the rank and file CIA is as squirrely as the upper management though and certainly they fight a battle that includes members of their own government who's primary goal is to advance their own agenda/career and not rock the boat. The susceptibility of those people to lie is through the roof and my guess is when most thought that POS Clinton would be elected they acted accordingly, so they could continue their climb to ass kissing heaven in the white house.
Lastly, if you really believe in what you say and you're not being partisan, then you wouldn't run off and leave the board, but would stay and continue to fight the good fight. Good luck man!
He's taking a much needed break (allegedly) from the board. You attempted a reasonable explanation and informative exchange to no avail. I think his super secret source resides between his ears.
I also work in the IT industry and manage several thousand Linux servers and am familiar with cyber-security challenges posed by state actors. However, lets not pretend that each of these breaches were there byproduct of anything other than democratic leadership's penchant for not believing the rules apply to them. There are rules and controls that should have prevented Podesta from having password as a password. I know because we run those exact controls in our own company. Lets not pretend that we cared about cyber-security, while the SoS was running all her official communications through a non-sanctioned server in her basement, and then complain that it may have been hacked. In the end, I have no sympathy for Dems complaining about being hacked when they have so clearly disregarded many of the basic standards of control over their own systems.
One of my liberal (ie tolerant) friends unfriended me yesterday because I shared a pic of a dog that had shredded some books and the caption said "the Russians did it." She said she can't respect someone who gets their news from Drudge, Fox etc and listens to Rush, Alex Jones etc etc. She said I can't believe you don't think the Russians didn't hack that POS Clintons server, then sends me an article from HuffPo. I just laughed and said okay, your call...good luck.
Biggest bunch of whiners on the planet and so dam close minded, wow!
Biggest bunch of whiners on the planet and so dam close minded, wow!
My wife just got pregnant. Damn you Putin, damn you.
He hacked her system? Damn. She should have been using multi layered firewalls.
Damn if I've been able to penetrate her defense in depth strategy. Putin is just that much more potent apparently.
Oh damn, I laughed out loud! Well played imprimis. Very well played.He has been practicing:
Here's my take on Russia, DNC, Wikileaks, and emails.
It's very similar to my take on Snowden.
If the information is accurate...and I believe it largely is...I'm happy it was leaked.
At the same time, I have serious national security concerns about how it was obtained and who did it. I feel those questions need to be explored and investigated...not simply brushed aside.
When the Snowden thing first broke, many people were asking if he was a Patriot or a criminal. My thought/response was that he was both. Kind of feel the same about this issue. It's good the information is out. Possibly bad from a national security aspect how it got discovered and leaked.
It's very similar to my take on Snowden.
If the information is accurate...and I believe it largely is...I'm happy it was leaked.
At the same time, I have serious national security concerns about how it was obtained and who did it. I feel those questions need to be explored and investigated...not simply brushed aside.
When the Snowden thing first broke, many people were asking if he was a Patriot or a criminal. My thought/response was that he was both. Kind of feel the same about this issue. It's good the information is out. Possibly bad from a national security aspect how it got discovered and leaked.
Glad to get your take on this.
Questions.
1. Do you take Wikileaks at its word that this wasn't a Russian source or proxy?
2. Do you believe a congressional inquiry led by "bipartisan" leadership like McCain and Graham a week before the electoral college vote is anything but a politicized witch hunt designed to do anything real beyond undermining the legitimacy of this election?
3. How would you feel if, and have you heard rumors to this effect, it was a US intelligence entity or individual that leaked this information in the first place?
And if you think #3 is farfetched,
http://wearechange.org/ten-cyber-at...database-linked-department-homeland-security/
http://wearechange.org/ten-cyber-at...database-linked-department-homeland-security/
Pretty comprehensive takedown here: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...e-vladimir-putin-influence-american-elections
Does anyone in this thread believe the United States itself or through proxy is not hacking anyone? We have purchased radio stations and newspapers and dropped flyers in other countries to try and influence elections for decades. The shah of Iran called and he said shut the **** up you hypocritical democrats.
And what are they griping about? The truth, as if somehow the truth getting out is an awful thing. This is typical liberal bizarro world group think.
And what are they griping about? The truth, as if somehow the truth getting out is an awful thing. This is typical liberal bizarro world group think.
1. You lost and we won!! &$@# you, stupid! Cuck! Haha!
2. Info bad for trump is false.
3. Info good for trump is true.
What, you don't enjoy this broken record?
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