The Hannibal Directive: Did They Or Didn’t They?

[Ponca Dan]

For now the IDF just wants us to believe they killed scores of their own citizens because they are incompetent.

IDF Report Found Multiple Cases of Friendly Fire Deaths on Oct 7 - News From Antiwar.com

A review by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) set to be released this summer will conclude that Israeli soldiers killed many of their own people on October 7, Israeli media reported. The inquiry is expected to identify multiple failures of the IDF during the Hamas rampage in southern Israel...

news.antiwar.com

 

[aix_xpert]

For now the IDF just wants us to believe they killed scores of their own citizens because they are incompetent.

IDF Report Found Multiple Cases of Friendly Fire Deaths on Oct 7 - News From Antiwar.com

A review by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) set to be released this summer will conclude that Israeli soldiers killed many of their own people on October 7, Israeli media reported. The inquiry is expected to identify multiple failures of the IDF during the Hamas rampage in southern Israel...

news.antiwar.com

Some very interesting quotes in that story. I wonder how many deaths are actually from friendly fire, and how many are due to "inaction". Because those are significantly different things. For example, the story highlights a poor decision by commanders to hold forces in reserve. Why is that a poor decision? You know now that Hamas didn't have reserve forces, or that this wasn't a coordinated with other terrorist groups like Hezbollah, but IDF commanders on October 7th didn't know that. So holding troops in reserve while defining a response to an unknown attacker force is smart military strategy. So I'll be interested in how many of the 'failures' are the friendly fire type, and how many are the 'monday morning QB' type.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Some very interesting quotes in that story. I wonder how many deaths are actually from friendly fire, and how many are due to "inaction". Because those are significantly different things. For example, the story highlights a poor decision by commanders to hold forces in reserve. Why is that a poor decision? You know now that Hamas didn't have reserve forces, or that this wasn't a coordinated with other terrorist groups like Hezbollah, but IDF commanders on October 7th didn't know that. So holding troops in reserve while defining a response to an unknown attacker force is smart military strategy. So I'll be interested in how many of the 'failures' are the friendly fire type, and how many are the 'monday morning QB' type.

So the IDF is correct in admitting it is incompetent? Interesting take.

 

[JimmyBob]

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[OUSOONER67]

Hamas lover.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

So the IDF is correct in admitting it is incompetent? Interesting take.

You should know better about friendly fire incidents having a military background. I'll wait for the report to come out than speculate on what is in it or not.

 

[2012Bearcat]

Now the Hamas defense is Israel didn't respond to a surprise attack on Israeli civilians correctly? SMFH what kind of moron comes up with this kind of stuff?

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

Now the Hamas defense is Israel didn't respond to a surprise attack on Israeli civilians correctly? SMFH what kind of moron comes up with this kind of stuff?

Dan?

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Now the Hamas defense is Israel didn't respond to a surprise attack on Israeli civilians correctly? SMFH what kind of moron comes up with this kind of stuff?

I knew Dan was a dumbfvck, but whoever posted the OP has to be the dumbest dumbfvck that ever dumbfvcked.

 

[OUSOONER67]

For now the IDF just wants us to believe they killed scores of their own citizens because they are incompetent.

IDF Report Found Multiple Cases of Friendly Fire Deaths on Oct 7 - News From Antiwar.com

A review by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) set to be released this summer will conclude that Israeli soldiers killed many of their own people on October 7, Israeli media reported. The inquiry is expected to identify multiple failures of the IDF during the Hamas rampage in southern Israel...

news.antiwar.com

So Israel is not only Genociding Hamas and Hamas supporters they are Genociding themselves as well?
Oh the humanity of it all!

 

[Ponca Dan]

You should know better about friendly fire incidents having a military background. I'll wait for the report to come out than speculate on what is in it or not.

You’te right, of course, that’s what we all should do. Maybe you should contact Israeli media and tell them to slow their roll. They’re the one doing the early reporting.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Now the Hamas defense is Israel didn't respond to a surprise attack on Israeli civilians correctly? SMFH what kind of moron comes up with this kind of stuff?

Hamas defense? Sorry, Bub, this is coming from your beloved IDF itself.

 

[Ponca Dan]

So Israel is not only Genociding Hamas and Hamas supporters they are Genociding themselves as well?
Oh the humanity of it all!

It’s a shame you say that sarcastically.

 

[Ponca Dan]

I knew Dan was a dumbfvck, but whoever posted the OP has to be the dumbest dumbfvck that ever dumbfvcked.

Your Daddy would read this and be so proud of how he raised his brilliant lawyer son.

 

[2012Bearcat]

Hanas defense? Sorry, Bub, thus is coming from your beloved IDF itself.

Critical thinking Dan. Who attack who on October 7th? The attacker is 100% responsible for any and all deaths.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

You’te right, of course, that’s what we all should do. Maybe you should contact Israeli media and tell them to slow their roll. They’re the one doing the early reporting.

Thats funny you think that's the Israeli media.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Your Daddy would read this and be so proud of how he raised his brilliant lawyer son.

Like your dad was proud of the invertebrate milquetoast he raised, eh Caspar?

 

[Ostatedchi]

If anyone asks why I know Dan is anantisemite just look to this thread.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Thats funny you think that's the Israeli media.

Perhaps you should go back and reread the article with an eye toward from whom the author is getting his news.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Critical thinking Dan. Who attack who on October 7th? The attacker is 100% responsible for any and all deaths.

Here’s my take on the situation the IDF faced and continues to face. They realize they have two options: admit they employed the Hannibal Doctrine which to this point they furiously deny even though many of the soldiers involved say that is exactly what they were told to do, and face a backlash of their own citizenry (not to mention the world-wide PR disaster it would cause), or shrug their shoulders and say they were caught flat footed even though they had been told several times something big was coming very soon, declare they reacted like a bunch of unprepared amateurs, apologize for their incompetence and live for the next decade or so with a tarnished image they have spent decades trying to embellish. From reports coming from *Israeli media* they have selected Option Two as the least damaging to their image. But who knows, maybe they leaked the “incompetent” story ahead of time to see what the reaction will be but in plenty of time to switch gears and admit they intentionally murdered their own people.

 

[aix_xpert]

You should know better about friendly fire incidents having a military background. I'll wait for the report to come out than speculate on what is in it or not.

You can't have faux outrage about what's in the report if you wait till the report comes out and the facts become clear.

 

[Ponca Dan]

You can't have faux outrage about what's in the report if you wait till the report comes out and the facts become clear.

Nothing in the article suggested outrage.

 

[aix_xpert]

Nothing in the article suggested outrage.

I wasn't talking about the article, just your response and reposting of it.

 

[OUSOONER67]

So Israel is not only Genociding Hamas and Hamas supporters they are Genociding themselves as well?
Oh the humanity of it all!

You aren't helping very much.

 

[Ponca Dan]

I wasn't talking about the article, just your response and reposting of it.

My response contained no outrage.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Perhaps you should go back and reread the article with an eye toward from whom the author is getting his news.

I did one better. I read the article from channel 12 news that antiwar said they were using. It didn't say what antiwar.com said it says. Pick your poison on that one.

 

[Ponca Dan]

I did one better. I read the article from channel 12 news that antiwar said they were using. It didn't say what antiwar.com said it says. Pick your poison on that one.

Interesting. I didn’t know you speak and read Hebrew. The *Jerusalem Post* article, which is in English, says pretty much exactly what the article says it says. Can you translate what the other two say that differs from the *Jerusalem Post?”