Did that bitch really just say being poor can cause a women to die from being pregnant and a reason to kill someone? Wtf
Supreme Court case today
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I know all the people watching the Supreme Court on a Wednesday morning are going to love this thread.
Essentially the argument supporting abortion is it is a woman's right to be irresponsible and expect others to pay for her irresponsibility.
I was appalled with Sotomayer's argument that the medical community cannot prove if a fetus experiences pain during the procedure. The mere fact it is a very real possibility should be enough for any sane person to error on the side the procedure does inflict pain. Keep in mind these are largely the same people that are overly concerned a person being executed might expereince pain. If anything, shouldn't we all be concerned an innocent being, such as a unborn baby, experiences pain while being put to death?
I was appalled with Sotomayer's argument that the medical community cannot prove if a fetus experiences pain during the procedure. The mere fact it is a very real possibility should be enough for any sane person to error on the side the procedure does inflict pain. Keep in mind these are largely the same people that are overly concerned a person being executed might expereince pain. If anything, shouldn't we all be concerned an innocent being, such as a unborn baby, experiences pain while being put to death?
Has anyone considered what is going to happen to the millions of unwanted kids? If someone is pro life they need to be prepared to start adopting immediately.
I don’t think those people can adopt in this state.
Once again like the libs trying to kill oil rather then look at ways to clean the environment. Why is death the only solution here? Can we not print money and do whatever the **** we want? How about we don't send Pakistan or Turkey checks next month and instead we build child developmental centers for unwanted children. Have it opened for adoption.
Also, the fact that same sex couples couldn't adopt is ludicrous. Of the less then 1% population in this category only 20% are outlandish. If they provide a loving home for an unwanted child and make them feel loved and welcome then why is that wrong?
im all for something that can support the numbers we are talking about, but if pro life people don’t come up with a workable alternative and get it in place, it’s going to be a disaster if they get what they want by drastically restricting abortion.
How about women start becoming and being expected y society to be responsible. That would go a long way to solving the problem. In 2019 there were almost 700K abortion performed in US, that's ridiculous.
I'm not one of those that supports all abortions being illegal but at the same time using abortion as a method of birth control is downright evil.
Why wait? Why aren't anti-abortion types offering substantial support to those who might be swayed to choose adoption today? You would think that destigmatizing the irresponsibility of these women would be a first step, but alas here we are...
These irresponsible women making themselves pregnant of their own accord. Damn them.
So, only women should be accountable for a decision made by two people? Irresponsible women, not irresponsible men? Interesting. Only men should enjoy sex and have as many partners as they like? So many comments to this awful take.
So since everyone is equally involved sounds like dads should have to sign off on an abortion before it is performed. You guys for that?
Yes. Also, if the guy refuses the abortion he gets the kid and all responsibility and financial burden. If it takes two to make the kid, I certainly agree with the equal say in the end. The difference, no matter what, the female goes through all the pregnancy stages, so how do we balance that out?
I would go for this in a heartbeat. The thing is though if I had ever knocked up on of those 300 hotties in college and the 5 fatties then they had all the say. I have always said I am paying and supporting any kid I create. I think it is a crime that the dad can’t say they want the kid and stop the women from murdering a child.
@CowboyJD , if you're out there, could you give a brief treatise on criminal non-support? Three lines or less.
Sorry but that argument doesn't work on me. Men can and do easily disappear with little to no repercussions. Women do not have that option. Nothing that I did not teach my daughter and my nieces. They and they alone are responsible for protecting themselves from an unwanted pregnancy. That's called taking personal responsibility for those of you that cannot grasp the concept, something that is missing greatly in our society.
You are simply saying one gender is forced to take personally responsibility for her actions. Good that you are teaching/have taught your daughters is great, I will do the same with mine, but you are still dodging the “two to tango” part.
Not dodging at all, I'm telling and teaching women they should never trust anyone with their bodies and take sole responsibility for protecting against an unwanted pregnancy. Afterall isn't it their body their choice? Unless we can create laws that hold men accountable in a meaningful way the only logical thinking is for women to take 100% responsibility to protect against an unwanted pregnancy.
There currently is a mitigator in place. If the GOP is that hellbent on ridding abortion, they need to get on it on those laws you are bringing up. And to shock you, I agree with you on that.
I agree with if the man refuses the abortion then he assumes all financial obligations.
As far as balancing things out. I'm not sure making an arguement that 9 to 10 months of pregnancy won't be balanced out by the male taking the child for the next 18 years is a viable argument. 9 to 10 months for a decision she made with the male is probably not enough to balance.
No need for any laws or the number of abortions performed in this country if women take personal responsibility to protect against an unwanted pregnancy and that's the point.
Good Feelers helping other people from other Countries instead of helping our own.
Which party physically carries and has the baby? When it comes down to the nut cutting the one carrying and having the baby is the one that is left holding the bag so to speak and as such is 100% responsible. How many single mothers out there that have a dead-beat sperm donor? How many have no idea who the father is? Whose fault is it that she slept with someone that would leave her high and dry?
I'm not faulting women for enjoying sex and I'm not saying men have no responsibility. What I'm saying is if women took 100% of the responsibility, we wouldn't perform almost 700K abortions each year. It's not hard, it's not expensive and it would be greatly effective in reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies. Women could still try and hold the man financially responsible but we see how that is working out now.
100% of the responsibility with 0-50% of the say. Right now, women have options. You want that taken away. I disagree with that until a more equal consequence is made available. That part does not seem very complicated to me, but it also does not pander tp a political or religious voting bloc. We can get into the useless discussions of pregnancies from rape (more than you likely think, less than the libs use as an example) or incest (same) to counter that women bear equal responsibility in the action. In skipping that, do you honestly think not being able to have an abortion is going to deter the same choices? I have a strong belief that banning abortions will simply create a larger volume of unwanted children with all the consequences that come with poor or lack of parenting.
Where have you guys been?
Dudes can have babies.
Dudes can have babies.
Always have. How do you explain away your inconsistent approach?
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