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Sour Grapes On My Part

I clearly sent a message that made it too easy to misinterpret.
Your problem isn't with military members, it's with the corrupt governments that start the wars, ours being one of the worst. Instead of making comments about the troops, just say what you really mean, our government is corrupt and manipulates the people to support their corruption.
 
Your problem isn't with military members, it's with the corrupt governments that start the wars, ours being one of the worst. Instead of making comments about the troops, just say what you really mean, our government is corrupt and manipulates the people to support their corruption.
Really is this simple. 👍
 
Your problem isn't with military members, it's with the corrupt governments that start the wars, ours being one of the worst. Instead of making comments about the troops, just say what you really mean, our government is corrupt and manipulates the people to support their corruption.
My problem has NEVER been with military members.
 
I have no idea what point is trying to be made in this thread.
 
You hear it all the time but it is most prevalent on and around Memorial Day and July 4th. We thank soldiers for their service and pay homage to those who paid the greatest price to preserve our freedom, they fought and died so we could be free. In my nearly 4 years of “service” (what a crock, it wasn’t service, it was servitude pure and simple) I encountered hundreds if not thousands of fellow servicemen and not a single one of them thought in terms of “fighting and dying to preserve freedom.” We all had reasons for why we were there but not one of us gave preserving freedom as why. I apologize if I burst your dreamy patriotic bubble, but I just couldn’t stay quiet about it one more minute.
Being conscripted would just suck. I can understand how that would influence a person’s world view.

What I respect about your situation is that you didn’t flee. So yeah, you have earned my respect.
 
I think folks are lost with the world wars. And especially lost with our gubmints personal wars. Git in here geniuses. 🖕
 
Being conscripted would just suck. I can understand how that would influence a person’s world view.

What I respect about your situation is that you didn’t flee. So yeah, you have earned my respect.
Thank you. That means a great deal to me.
 
Was conscription a 4 year gig? My dad was drafted during the Korean conflict and it seemed like he only served 2 years.
Two year obligation. Some of us were so young and stupid we enlisted voluntarily. My father was an Air Force officer in the war and he wanted me to follow in his footsteps, so I joined the Air Force.
 
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I joined the USAF outta High School in hopes of making some contribution to protect our freedom. I was an army brat and didn't want to wait around for when or if the draft. Younger brother married and knocked up his spouse as quick as he could to avoid the draft.

What does this country owe me? Nothing! I owe this country everything. I am Congolese, Cherokee, Caucasian.
 
I joined the USAF outta High School in hopes of making some contribution to protect our freedom. I was an army brat and didn't want to wait around for when or if the draft. Younger brother married and knocked up his spouse as quick as he could to avoid the draft.

What does this country owe me? Nothing! I owe this country everything. I am Congolese, Cherokee, Caucasian.
Sadly millions of people in this country do not have the same love of country you have. They are what has the country done for me kind of people, better known as Democrats.
 
There's a lot of confusion in this thread. Those who served and those throwing their mammas sack around.
 
Come to think of it, what does this country owe anyone? We have people from all over the world risking life and limb, selling their children into sexual slavery and selling themselves into indentured servitude to the cartels for passage just to have the opportunity to live in the US, yet tens of millions of our own citizens think because they were born here they are owed something. Hell give me those selling themselves for the opportunity over those in this country with their hand out.
 
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Come to think of it, what does this country owe anyone? We have people from all over the world risking life and limb, selling their children into sexual slavery and selling themselves into indentured servitude to the cartels for passage just to have the opportunity to live in the US, yet tens of millions of our own citizens think because they were born here they are owed something. Hell give me those selling themselves for the opportunity over those in this country with their hand out.
Dimms agenda. Joe biden's agenda.
 
I visited Ireland from where my mother had strong roots. It was okay. I'll take the US. I just can't build any interest in visiting the Congo from where my father had roots. I lived in Germany for 3 years where my father had roots. It was barely okay. I salute the Germans for knowing how to measure. A pound of spuds weighs 500 grams. A pound of spuds weighs 454 grams in the US. My current patio temp is 94F. In Hanau, Germany my patio temp would be 38C.
 
You hear it all the time but it is most prevalent on and around Memorial Day and July 4th. We thank soldiers for their service and pay homage to those who paid the greatest price to preserve our freedom, they fought and died so we could be free. In my nearly 4 years of “service” (what a crock, it wasn’t service, it was servitude pure and simple) I encountered hundreds if not thousands of fellow servicemen and not a single one of them thought in terms of “fighting and dying to preserve freedom.” We all had reasons for why we were there but not one of us gave preserving freedom as why. I apologize if I burst your dreamy patriotic bubble, but I just couldn’t stay quiet about it one more minute.
So, you speak for all servicemen and women now, huh?🙄

Thank you to all those who have served and are serving, regardless of why they do it or what their motive is. They stand on the front lines and for that, I will always tip my hat to them.
 
So, you speak for all servicemen and women now, huh?🙄

Thank you to all those who have served and are serving, regardless of why they do it or what their motive is. They stand on the front lines and for that, I will always tip my hat to them.
They do it for folks like you regardless. You better appreciate it.
 
Sleepy joe claims this also.
Yeah, and he means it. Just look at the first place he went after he was sworn in as President.

Every President who serves in that position knows the value of those who serve in our armed services. Our Presidents understand the sacrifices the men and women of our armed services make and why they should be honored, even if a miserable naysayer like @Ponca Dan doesn't.

Sometimes it isn't about Democrat or Republican.
 
Yeah, and he means it. Just look at the first place he went after he was sworn in as President.

Every President who serves in that position knows the value of those who serve in our armed services. Our Presidents understand the sacrifices the men and women of our armed services make and why they should be honored, even if a miserable naysayer like @Ponca Dan doesn't.

Sometimes it isn't about Democrat or Republican.
You done fvcked up yer opinion claiming they value those that served. Ain't a god dam one of the silver spoon fed entitled politicians could even for a moment appreciate service members. Try again chucklehead. You have no shame do ya?
 
I was better under Trump's watch.
Answer the question. You walked right into it after all.

Do you believe Trump is one of those silver spoon fed entitled politicians who couldn't even for a moment appreciate service members?
 
Answer the question. You walked right into it after all.

Do you believe Trump is one of those silver spoon fed entitled politicians who couldn't even for a moment appreciate service members?
You forgot about the afghan withdrawal already? Yes, yer a clown
 
You forgot about the afghan withdrawal already?
Stop flailing around lol. The Afghanistan withdrawal has nothing to do with this. You made a claim and I'm simply asking if you apply your claim to your hero Trump.

Again, do you believe Trump is one of those silver spoon fed entitled politicians who couldn't even for a moment appreciate service members? Yes or no?
 
Stop flailing around lol. The Afghanistan withdrawal has nothing to do with this. You made a claim and I'm simply asking if you apply your claim to your hero Trump.

Again, do you believe Trump is one of those silver spoon fed entitled politicians who couldn't even for a moment appreciate service members? Yes or no?
Seems yer flailing. An afghan withdrawal under Trump woulda been totally opposite of sleepy's. Hello?
 
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