You definitely don't share the views of the mainstream left on this topic, cakes for gay weddings and men using the ladies restroom and whatnot.
Weren't you against the Christian cake maker? Maybe I'm mistaken but I didn't think any progressive strayed from the fold in that situation. Maybe you were silent.
Which businesses started involuntarily? The vast majority start as individuals or a finite number of partners/shareholders. Microsoft started as two people.
This is an interesting topic. Should a Baptist preacher be forced to marry a gay couple? Should a black baker be forced to design a cake for a kkk rally?
If the Baptist preacher marries people for profit and advertises that fact, yes. Membership in the KKK is not protected, just like not wearing shoes and a shirt isn't protected.
So if my dad just asks for costs to be reimbursed then he doesn't have to wed a gay couple?
I don't think my father thought about that. He's a tolerant guy but he's also a 70 year old baptist preacher and believes marriage is between a man and woman. Rather than marry two dudes he just doesn't do marriages anymore.
Imagine you had some friends over for some drinks and BBQ and you accepted some of their money to cover your costs. Even though there are laws against against discriminating against black people, you would certainly be within your rights not to invite black people to your next party, hell you could refuse to marry them too.
Not really, the idea of providing a public accommodation is very well established in law and practice. Whether a single proprietor or a large corporate entity, doing business is a regulated activity, for good reason, and as such subject to certain requirements including non discrimination. Now what you do in your home dude just don't include those unable or unwilling to consent and we are cool...
You boys figured this out long ago - the ultimate quid pro quo. "You want to marry in my church? Well son, a nice little donation will help free up the schedule." Complete straw man.
The Christian Bible "moved on" with the New Testament. The Old Testament and mention of ancient law has to be understood in context with what was said about it in the New Testament in which Jesus commanded us to love our fellow man.
Jews don't have a New Testament, but some how they moved on.
If it is exclusively available to members of that particular denomination, sure. If you have ads in the newspaper for your marriage services only $249, hard to call it more religious rite than public accommodation.
One is usually obviously apparent using only the sense sight. The other usually isn't. I'm not of Christian conviction, but that would be my guess.
In Orygon LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ is a protected class specifically by the bureau of labor and industry. In this particular case, prior commissions were accepted, the bakers balked at a wedding cake only when the customer asked for two females on the topper.
I get out plenty, but not usually to that part of the city. I live in OKC. Oklahoma has been slow to adopt to all of the new genders.
