AOC is a big girl, she can speak for herself (if she’s capable). The only point I have made on this thread is she’s correct to say a 25% tariff will raise the price of the coffee, an economic point. You seem determined to argue a political point because it’s AOC, and you can’t abide the woman because of her politics. For the record I am as repulsed by her politics as much or more than you are. We’re talking past each other.
Some interesting facts about tariffs in this article about AOC's stupid take on Columbian situation.
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So threatening a tariff on Colombian coffee to force a change in Colombia's behavior isn't political?
Other places besides Colombia to buy coffee. Other countries can step up production, you do understand alternate producers will step up to fulfill demand if a product can be made at a profit. Plenty of land exists in other countries with equal or better product for the market to correct a temporary imbalance.
Brazil has stepped up production And we currently have a surplus in coffee. Do you even understand supply and demand curve and needing a market at a price point that allows a profit in a market with more supply than demand? Do you understand what pricing yourself out of the market in the U.S. would do?
I did the research. Makes Trump’s move even more brilliant.
Trump knew this and his economic advisors know this. They had Colombia over an economic barrel. The odds of a 25% tariff under current market conditions of excess supply combined with the ability of other countries to easily step up production means the chance of Americans seeing an increase in the cost of coffee very slim with the tariff. Temporary at best. Colombia would lose market share and profits would transfer to other countries at the same margin in a buyers market, or slightly better margins at market equilibrium.
Excellent coffee is grown all over the world.
Colombia is not a monopoly when it comes to coffee. They caved fast because economically it would have been devastating and Americans would not have seen a sustained price increase in their Coffee. Unless you were hell bent on paying more for a product, a product you can buy cheaper from another country that is just as good or better.
Your Hamas education betrays you.
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It really doesn’t.
My company imports products. We can only sell our products for what the market will bear.
So, we negotiate with our supplier to split it, we shave a little off incentive programming, eat some margin and we keep the price where it needs to be to compete.
Meanwhile Sourcing works to qualify supply from countries not subject to the same tariff.
For coffee, countries like Brazil will step up production and fill the gap created by the loss of volume due to elasticity of demand if Columbian importers try to pass it along, so they won’t. They eat it or risk losing unit sales. Columbian-made is not the only coffee we drink.
I have.
It’s really not very good coffee. I don’t get it.
I mean I’ll drink it, I just don’t ever seek it out.
Some of the best coffee I’ve ever had was at a little diner in Puerto Rico. You could run it in the crankcase of Chevy small block, but it was damn good.
I've been in a Starbucks exactly two times in my life. Once I meet a client there to sign some paperwork, didn't have a cup of coffee. The other time we were in New Orleans having to catch a early morning flight after a late night out on the town. I asked for a cup of coffee and the employee look at me like I was crazy. I had to explain to the little girl I just wanted plain old coffee. When I finally got a cup it was not very good but in the condition I was in at the time I drank it.
Wait? Shouldn't the coffee become cheaper? Tariffs may add to the costs, but that should be offset by the reduced labor costs generated by the return of (primarily male and working age) labor resources to the country of origin.
Speaking of Starbucks, do they even source their coffee from Colombia? I saw one of their commercials a few weeks back and it highlighted their purchasing of coffee beans from Peru.
So I looked it up and they source from 30 different countries (per Google) across South America, Africa, and South East Asia. I can't imagine a tariff on one country would impact them significantly.
So I looked it up and they source from 30 different countries (per Google) across South America, Africa, and South East Asia. I can't imagine a tariff on one country would impact them significantly.
It tastes burnt to me. A good friend of mine owns a roastery and I get my coffee from him. Shop local if possible.
It’s burnt.
But the magic is that the burnt flavor actually works when you load it up with sweeteners (and whole milk).
The average person getting a drink there is at least 20lbs overweight and I’d venture that a full quarter are obese to morbidly obese.
I don’t care what they publish for nutritional content… easily a third to half the drinks they actually sell are the ones based entirely on syrups, and the actual coffee drinks are normally ordered with a lot of sweetener.
@Ponca Dan, you seem to have disappeared from this thread. There's been some good information posted that counters your and AOC's narrative. Can you please AOC-splain to us how the tariff would have raised Colombian coffee prices and by how much?
So you'll AOC-splain to us how much the price of Colombian coffee would have increased due to Trump’s tariff if I ask in that thread?
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