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So what about men's rights?

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After watching women march for whatever rights they feel they have been deprived of... I can't help but ask the question -- what about the rights of men? More specifically, fathers?

Oh, I understand that according to Roe vs. Wade, it is a woman's right to choose what she does when she gets pregnant. She can choose to have a baby (with or without informing the father), she can choose to give that baby up for adoption (which actually does require legal notice to the father), or she can choose to terminate her pregnancy. Since it takes a man to impregnate a woman, I don't understand why women think the father should not have a have a say? Just because she carries the baby to term and it's her body - is what you're going to say.

Why shouldn't a father be REQUIRED to be notified of a pregnancy, when treatment is requested at the beginning -- AND if and when an abortion is requested??????

When someone dies and you want to close their estate, you must file public legal notices in the newspaper so that any creditors can provide proof of their claim. Then you have to file proof of that publication with the probate court - to prove that you gave anyone with any possible interest in the estate notice of the legal proceeding.

If a father OR a mother is wanting to put a child up for adoption, legal consent from both parents is required -- or in the alternative (unless death or something similar applies) the same legal notice is required so that any interested parties have an opportunity to express their opposition to the process.

The compromise of a father's rights begins at conception -- but it goes on through the age of 18 and even beyond. For example. A husband and wife separate. The mother "keeps" the child and only allows the father three overnight visits the first entire month of separation. Then, through an ugly custody battle, the father petitions the court to give him more overnights with his child. The court-appointed attorney for the child (who visited mother's home but never father's home), files a response declaring that it would be DETRIMENTAL to this child to have any more overnights with the father than the court has already ordered. Then you fast forward to the "child" being 18, but still enrolled in high school and the mother still expects the child and father to respect the courts order (from 2010) as far as "custody" (yes, of a legal adult) and support as well!

Okay, I realize the above paragraph is specific to one case, and I apologize for the details... but it is not far off from many stories I have heard from fathers over the years.

I have witnessed first hand the compromise fathers continually make -- when it comes to straight up time with their children, influence in their lives, decisions on important things.

Consider convicted sex offenders. They are required to register, so their neighbors know what they are capable of. Transparency. Although, if you are a man and you participate in creating a life -- and the mother wants to terminate that life -- as a father, you don't even get to #1 know that the life ever existed, or #2 get a vote in what happens to that life. How is that #alllivesmatter?
 
You make 23 cents more an hour than every... single... woman.



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(I sympathize with your correct observations, I just don't know how to win that clash)
 
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Haha. My bad.

Smooth woman. Got my ass handed to me.

To your post, those really are under discussed issues. And again, I have no insight on changing minds. As long as there is a perception that men "have all the power" (generally speaking) I imagine there won't be sufficient numbers of people willing to even engage the topic.
 
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After watching women march for whatever rights they feel they have been deprived of... I can't help but ask the question -- what about the rights of men? More specifically, fathers?

Oh, I understand that according to Roe vs. Wade, it is a woman's right to choose what she does when she gets pregnant. She can choose to have a baby (with or without informing the father), she can choose to give that baby up for adoption (which actually does require legal notice to the father), or she can choose to terminate her pregnancy. Since it takes a man to impregnate a woman, I don't understand why women think the father should not have a have a say? Just because she carries the baby to term and it's her body - is what you're going to say.

Why shouldn't a father be REQUIRED to be notified of a pregnancy, when treatment is requested at the beginning -- AND if and when an abortion is requested??????

When someone dies and you want to close their estate, you must file public legal notices in the newspaper so that any creditors can provide proof of their claim. Then you have to file proof of that publication with the probate court - to prove that you gave anyone with any possible interest in the estate notice of the legal proceeding.

If a father OR a mother is wanting to put a child up for adoption, legal consent from both parents is required -- or in the alternative (unless death or something similar applies) the same legal notice is required so that any interested parties have an opportunity to express their opposition to the process.

The compromise of a father's rights begins at conception -- but it goes on through the age of 18 and even beyond. For example. A husband and wife separate. The mother "keeps" the child and only allows the father three overnight visits the first entire month of separation. Then, through an ugly custody battle, the father petitions the court to give him more overnights with his child. The court-appointed attorney for the child (who visited mother's home but never father's home), files a response declaring that it would be DETRIMENTAL to this child to have any more overnights with the father than the court has already ordered. Then you fast forward to the "child" being 18, but still enrolled in high school and the mother still expects the child and father to respect the courts order (from 2010) as far as "custody" (yes, of a legal adult) and support as well!

Okay, I realize the above paragraph is specific to one case, and I apologize for the details... but it is not far off from many stories I have heard from fathers over the years.

I have witnessed first hand the compromise fathers continually make -- when it comes to straight up time with their children, influence in their lives, decisions on important things.

Consider convicted sex offenders. They are required to register, so their neighbors know what they are capable of. Transparency. Although, if you are a man and you participate in creating a life -- and the mother wants to terminate that life -- as a father, you don't even get to #1 know that the life ever existed, or #2 get a vote in what happens to that life. How is that #alllivesmatter?
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After watching women march for whatever rights they feel they have been deprived of... I can't help but ask the question -- what about the rights of men? More specifically, fathers?

Oh, I understand that according to Roe vs. Wade, it is a woman's right to choose what she does when she gets pregnant. She can choose to have a baby (with or without informing the father), she can choose to give that baby up for adoption (which actually does require legal notice to the father), or she can choose to terminate her pregnancy. Since it takes a man to impregnate a woman, I don't understand why women think the father should not have a have a say? Just because she carries the baby to term and it's her body - is what you're going to say.

Why shouldn't a father be REQUIRED to be notified of a pregnancy, when treatment is requested at the beginning -- AND if and when an abortion is requested??????

When someone dies and you want to close their estate, you must file public legal notices in the newspaper so that any creditors can provide proof of their claim. Then you have to file proof of that publication with the probate court - to prove that you gave anyone with any possible interest in the estate notice of the legal proceeding.

If a father OR a mother is wanting to put a child up for adoption, legal consent from both parents is required -- or in the alternative (unless death or something similar applies) the same legal notice is required so that any interested parties have an opportunity to express their opposition to the process.

The compromise of a father's rights begins at conception -- but it goes on through the age of 18 and even beyond. For example. A husband and wife separate. The mother "keeps" the child and only allows the father three overnight visits the first entire month of separation. Then, through an ugly custody battle, the father petitions the court to give him more overnights with his child. The court-appointed attorney for the child (who visited mother's home but never father's home), files a response declaring that it would be DETRIMENTAL to this child to have any more overnights with the father than the court has already ordered. Then you fast forward to the "child" being 18, but still enrolled in high school and the mother still expects the child and father to respect the courts order (from 2010) as far as "custody" (yes, of a legal adult) and support as well!

Okay, I realize the above paragraph is specific to one case, and I apologize for the details... but it is not far off from many stories I have heard from fathers over the years.

I have witnessed first hand the compromise fathers continually make -- when it comes to straight up time with their children, influence in their lives, decisions on important things.

Consider convicted sex offenders. They are required to register, so their neighbors know what they are capable of. Transparency. Although, if you are a man and you participate in creating a life -- and the mother wants to terminate that life -- as a father, you don't even get to #1 know that the life ever existed, or #2 get a vote in what happens to that life. How is that #alllivesmatter?
You should post more.
 
Haha. My bad.

Smooth woman. Got my assignment handed to me.

To your post, those really are under discussed issues. And again, I have no insight on changing minds. As long as there is a perception that men "have all the power" (generally speaking) I imagine there won't be sufficient numbers of people willing to even engage the topic.
But that's exactly the problem I have -- why is there such a "women's power" movement over... what exactly? When there SHOULD be a father's movement on many things, like what I have already discussed. I guess we need to have a march to raise awareness, LOL.
 
I don't recall women storming the WH the last 8 years complaining about the unequal pay that a democrat administration was engaged in.
 
You make 23 cents more an hour than every... single... woman.



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(I sympathize with your correct observations, I just don't know how to win that clash)

This has been debunked so many times it's not even funny
 
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The equivalent to women marching for freedom of choice is men marching for the freedom to walk away from a woman the man knocked up with no financial or other legal obligations.
 
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