The underlying theme of it's a problem because it's a boy is what is grossing me out.
Sigh. And yet another uber patriot, gay pedophile? Again.
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Medic,
Yes, priests and ministers seem to molest kids within the statistical variance of the population at large.
However, the Special Report on issues of victimization within the Catholic Church, issued by the American Catholic Bishop's Conference showed some very strange numbers, compared to the issue of molestation of children when compared to "control" of molestation that occurred "outside" the church.
" The findings reveal that the frequency of child abuse among Catholic priests is not remarkable-involving around 4% of priests and deacons who served in the U.S., but its pattern is. Outside of the Catholic Church, the overwhelming numbers of juvenile victims of sexual abuse are female. Within the church, however, four out of five of their victims are male. Most were adolescents aged 14 or over; 15% were under 10."
So, in general terms most victims of sexual abuse (minors), over 50%, are female. But, when we're just looking at priests, the victims were overwhelmingly male, making up 80% of all victims.
That is certainly a rather significant anomaly.
Yes, priests and ministers seem to molest kids within the statistical variance of the population at large.
However, the Special Report on issues of victimization within the Catholic Church, issued by the American Catholic Bishop's Conference showed some very strange numbers, compared to the issue of molestation of children when compared to "control" of molestation that occurred "outside" the church.
" The findings reveal that the frequency of child abuse among Catholic priests is not remarkable-involving around 4% of priests and deacons who served in the U.S., but its pattern is. Outside of the Catholic Church, the overwhelming numbers of juvenile victims of sexual abuse are female. Within the church, however, four out of five of their victims are male. Most were adolescents aged 14 or over; 15% were under 10."
So, in general terms most victims of sexual abuse (minors), over 50%, are female. But, when we're just looking at priests, the victims were overwhelmingly male, making up 80% of all victims.
That is certainly a rather significant anomaly.
Like I said, it seems to be an anomaly. You should quit taking it so personally, as it doesn't reflect well on you. There's a correlation between conservatives and molesting boys. He wasn't shacked up with a girl, it was a boy. I'm just saying the Sandusky (another republican) type deals seem to happen with these uptight, angry conservatives moreso than from the general population.
Sorry, the rest of the world just disagrees that shacking up with an underage boy is a problem. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You sick ^$#&. It seems like you're defending it. Plenty of cons can condemn it without trying to deflect or counter anything, it's just not in your makeup for whatever reason.
There you go @Medic007 . I didn't say it as well as hollywood, but there's an example. The numbers are strange -- i don't have any scientific data like he does but it sure seems to happen a lot.
Uhhhh, once again Captain Complete Dipshit, point out where I've defended anything. I'm pointing out how gross you are for 1)politicizing pedophilia and 2)calling a 15 year old victim of pedophilia a woman to justify your sick ass attempt to politicize pedophilia. No deflection, no defense, just calling you out. Honestly, I'll take sick ^$#& from you as a compliment, because I know that places me at the opposite end of the spectrum from you.
You're creepy and downright disturbing. And what's worse, you seem to take pleasure in being that way. I have no desire to know what sick shit your brain thinks. The fact that you have no issue presenting yourself in this thread the way you have tells me everything I assumed is correct.
Thanks for the post hollywood. I don't disagree with what you posted regarding Catholic priests and their abuse patterns. I don't know anything about the Catholic church, it's structure, what they believe, how their religious authority is set up, how and who priests interact with etc. I literally know nothing about them and can't offer anything on why that anomaly exists.
The point that I was making is that there is no evidence that a priest is more likely to abuse someone than someone who isn't one, or that a politician is more likely to abuse someone than a non-politician. I offered that one of the reasons it may appear that way is because of the media attention they get.
Medic,
My views may be a bit "jaundiced" in that they are largely based on my life experiences and shaped by personal knowledge of how many people I have known that were openly critical of "the gays" for years, only to eventually be caught engaging, or even coming out years later. (I knew him for reasons I won't go into online.)
Just one example: While at OSU, the student leader of a campus ministry known as (forgive me, I can't remember the exact name and I could be wrong on this) I believe Agape Christian Fellowship was someone known to me. The group used to lead campus events, rallies and hold services around OSU frequently. As one of their frequent, leading issues, (or so it seemed) was about how being gay was a sin and would doom one to hell, (which was and still continues to be a major bugaboo in evangelical/fundamentalist circles.)
About 8 yrs later or so, I found out he had come out of the closet.
While I realize that anecdotal occurrences are not "data" it just seems that I have witnessed these things happen at rates which seem to be beyond the realm of mere "chance." And you're right, some of these views could be because things involving the major hypocrisy of these well known figures are likely to appear in the news.
My views may be a bit "jaundiced" in that they are largely based on my life experiences and shaped by personal knowledge of how many people I have known that were openly critical of "the gays" for years, only to eventually be caught engaging, or even coming out years later. (I knew him for reasons I won't go into online.)
Just one example: While at OSU, the student leader of a campus ministry known as (forgive me, I can't remember the exact name and I could be wrong on this) I believe Agape Christian Fellowship was someone known to me. The group used to lead campus events, rallies and hold services around OSU frequently. As one of their frequent, leading issues, (or so it seemed) was about how being gay was a sin and would doom one to hell, (which was and still continues to be a major bugaboo in evangelical/fundamentalist circles.)
About 8 yrs later or so, I found out he had come out of the closet.
While I realize that anecdotal occurrences are not "data" it just seems that I have witnessed these things happen at rates which seem to be beyond the realm of mere "chance." And you're right, some of these views could be because things involving the major hypocrisy of these well known figures are likely to appear in the news.
I'm not of any religious persuasion, so don't worry about me getting offended. In fact, I don't believe in god. But I'm the guy that doesn't give any shits about prayer in school or any other place. I'm always game for a moment of quiet reflective time. To each their own but I've never been one to stifle the majority with what I know is a minority.
Being religious and later coming out as gay isn't a unique phenomenon. In fact, most folks who grow up in religious households struggle to find the courage to come out. I know coworkers and friends in this same situation. Oklahoma is a generally religious and conservative state. Those from here have a higher likelihood of coming out later in life or not at all. It sucks for the people affected, but it is what it is.
A friend of mine was married for more than 20 years before he came out. He has 2 kids. His wife knew long before me, but I had a suspicion since high school. His wife divorced him so he could pursue who he really is and their family and our friendship has benefitted from it. He's more happy than I've ever remembered and that is reflected in his kids who will hopefully grow up to be tolerant adults absent the prejudices that their grandparents had.
I'm not sure where you're headed with your posts and won't make assumptions. Thanks for responding. My only criticism in this thread is toward the poster that comes across as excusing molestation of girls in favor of politicizing molestation of boys. I don't give a shit what sex gets molested or what political denomination or religious denomination the molester is. All pedophiles deserve a most unpleasant and prolonged execution in my book.
Again, this blew up in your face and now you're changing your narrative. Molestation is of course bad across the board, the problem arises when you try to equate sending a picture with actually molesting someone in an attempt to lay some cover fire for your conservative, gay pedophile.
