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Shrum?

There is no normal Democrat
I am not a Democrat. Nor am I liberal. My views haven’t changed in decades. That’s the irony. I’m what you would call a Reagan-era Country Club Republican. You know, what used to be considered an adult in the room where local governance, reasonable regulation with an emphasis on free markets, staying the hell out of people’s personal lives, and understanding the importance of foreign alliances used to matter. I am a free thinker and can call a spade a spade: people need to recognize that two-plus decades of Tea Party/now Trumpist policies have destroyed the State of Oklahoma. Meanwhile, the idiots keep lapping it up, under the phony auspices of Faith, Family, and Freedom. By all means, keep on keepin’ on. Maybe your thoughts and prayers will one day raise someone from the dead or make a discernible difference in people’s lives.
 
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I am not a Democrat. Nor am I liberal. My views haven’t changed in decades. That’s the irony. I’m what you would call a Reagan-era Country Club Republican. You know, what used to be considered an adult in the room where local governance, reasonable regulation with an emphasis on free markets, staying the hell out of people’s personal lives, and understanding the importance of foreign alliances used to matter. I am a free thinker and can call a spade a spade: people need to recognize that two-plus decades of Tea Party/now Trumpist policies have destroyed the State of Oklahoma. Meanwhile, the idiots keep lapping it up, under the phony auspices of Faith, Family, and Freedom. By all means, keep on keepin’ on. Maybe your thoughts and prayers will one day raise someone from the dead or make a discernible difference in people’s lives.

You are an angry hateful godless person so that’s why people think you are a liberal. Again, Oklahomans elects religious zealots because that’s who runs and anyone with a d in front of their name is associated with the coastal insane asylums. No successful conservative person wants anything to do with government, so we get the extremes.

If you are against what trump is doing the last month, reagan wouldn’t want anything to do with you.
 
I am not a Democrat. Nor am I liberal. My views haven’t changed in decades. That’s the irony. I’m what you would call a Reagan-era Country Club Republican. You know, what used to be considered an adult in the room where local governance, reasonable regulation with an emphasis on free markets, staying the hell out of people’s personal lives, and understanding the importance of foreign alliances used to matter. I am a free thinker and can call a spade a spade: people need to recognize that two-plus decades of Tea Party/now Trumpist policies have destroyed the State of Oklahoma. Meanwhile, the idiots keep lapping it up, under the phony auspices of Faith, Family, and Freedom. By all means, keep on keepin’ on. Maybe your thoughts and prayers will one day raise someone from the dead or make a discernible difference in people’s lives.
You stopped being a “republican” in 2016. So now you’re a Reagan something or other?
 
There is no viable opposition party. Republican is the only option and smart conservatives don’t run for office because they can be more successful in the private sector. Get your freaks in line and run a normal Democrat.
I agree about no viable opposition party but to lump Oklahoma Democrats with those on either coast is laughable. They are conservative people who are more progressive on social issues than most Republicans.

The checkmate for Republicans in Oklahoma is the effective vilification of Democrats from evangelical pulpits. That stopped all political discourse and actual policy debate in reality and has reduced a lot of donations for Democratic campaigns who don’t wish to fight conservative churches and white Christian nationalism. This co-mingling of church and state by Republicans has shown why the founders of our country warned against it as it has been wildly successful in stopping any debate or real choice in politics.

If you’re for women to be free and have government out of their personal life you’re considered pro-abortion by evangelicals which is BS both as a matter of policy and personal belief and responsibility. Most progressives I know are personally pro-life but just as adamant that government has no place in telling an American female what to do with their body. It’s a question of personal freedom for progressives more so than pro-life. The counter to pro-life is to tell what it really is which is pro-birth since every policy to assist the child and its family for success in life is routinely ignored by Republicans and fought politically and defunded if it exists.

Very few Oklahomans agree with the culture war BS a lot of liberals obsess about though they are desirous of freedom for all Americans regardless of race, sex, and who they love. So in reality, freedom is desired for all as promised in our constitution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should be for all Americans not just some that look like those in power.

I hope Trump is successful because he’s President for all of us. But if he makes mistakes and causes pain for Americans he should be called out for it like any other politician and his policies should die at the ballot box like elections should produce. That’s if conjecture about him filling the government with sycophants that will enable him to become a dictator doesn’t come to fruition.

That possibility is raised as he keeps challenging every check and balance, often ignores law and the constitution until judges bat him back with rulings. So far he’s complied but if and when all sycophants are in place will he continue to do so? All lovers of democracy better hope so or we will be no different than Russia, China, or North Korea.
 
I agree about no viable opposition party but to lump Oklahoma Democrats with those on either coast is laughable. They are conservative people who are more progressive on social issues than most Republicans.

The checkmate for Republicans in Oklahoma is the effective vilification of Democrats from evangelical pulpits. That stopped all political discourse and actual policy debate in reality and has reduced a lot of donations for Democratic campaigns who don’t wish to fight conservative churches and white Christian nationalism. This co-mingling of church and state by Republicans has shown why the founders of our country warned against it as it has been wildly successful in stopping any debate or real choice in politics.

If you’re for women to be free and have government out of their personal life you’re considered pro-abortion by evangelicals which is BS both as a matter of policy and personal belief and responsibility. Most progressives I know are personally pro-life but just as adamant that government has no place in telling an American female what to do with their body. It’s a question of personal freedom for progressives more so than pro-life. The counter to pro-life is to tell what it really is which is pro-birth since every policy to assist the child and its family for success in life is routinely ignored by Republicans and fought politically and defunded if it exists.

Very few Oklahomans agree with the culture war BS a lot of liberals obsess about though they are desirous of freedom for all Americans regardless of race, sex, and who they love. So in reality, freedom is desired for all as promised in our constitution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should be for all Americans not just some that look like those in power.

I hope Trump is successful because he’s President for all of us. But if he makes mistakes and causes pain for Americans he should be called out for it like any other politician and his policies should die at the ballot box like elections should produce. That’s if conjecture about him filling the government with sycophants that will enable him to become a dictator doesn’t come to fruition.

That possibility is raised as he keeps challenging every check and balance, often ignores law and the constitution until judges bat him back with rulings. So far he’s complied but if and when all sycophants are in place will he continue to do so? All lovers of democracy better hope so or we will be no different than Russia, China, or North Korea.
Mods. Please move this thread to the 24/7 board please.
 
@dnhall is too big of a wuss to take his political views to the politics Board.

He is the worst on this board in pushing his politics on this specific board, many times in subtle passive aggressive BS.

He engages here because many will respect no political talk on this board and he can post without much rebuttal. Just the way he likes it.

And Keeger? Not exactly a political savant. As evidenced by:


How this Shrum situation turned in to this political stuff is crazy.
 
Stitt’s involvement with / ties to the OSU BOR & the current state of educational funding in the state pretty much meant this thread would be political from the start.
Does that include pulling national politics and our President in to the conversation with allegations of sycophant’s?
 
I agree about no viable opposition party but to lump Oklahoma Democrats with those on either coast is laughable. They are conservative people who are more progressive on social issues than most Republicans.

The checkmate for Republicans in Oklahoma is the effective vilification of Democrats from evangelical pulpits. That stopped all political discourse and actual policy debate in reality and has reduced a lot of donations for Democratic campaigns who don’t wish to fight conservative churches and white Christian nationalism. This co-mingling of church and state by Republicans has shown why the founders of our country warned against it as it has been wildly successful in stopping any debate or real choice in politics.

If you’re for women to be free and have government out of their personal life you’re considered pro-abortion by evangelicals which is BS both as a matter of policy and personal belief and responsibility. Most progressives I know are personally pro-life but just as adamant that government has no place in telling an American female what to do with their body. It’s a question of personal freedom for progressives more so than pro-life. The counter to pro-life is to tell what it really is which is pro-birth since every policy to assist the child and its family for success in life is routinely ignored by Republicans and fought politically and defunded if it exists.

Very few Oklahomans agree with the culture war BS a lot of liberals obsess about though they are desirous of freedom for all Americans regardless of race, sex, and who they love. So in reality, freedom is desired for all as promised in our constitution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should be for all Americans not just some that look like those in power.

I hope Trump is successful because he’s President for all of us. But if he makes mistakes and causes pain for Americans he should be called out for it like any other politician and his policies should die at the ballot box like elections should produce. That’s if conjecture about him filling the government with sycophants that will enable him to become a dictator doesn’t come to fruition.

That possibility is raised as he keeps challenging every check and balance, often ignores law and the constitution until judges bat him back with rulings. So far he’s complied but if and when all sycophants are in place will he continue to do so? All lovers of democracy better hope so or we will be no different than Russia, China, or North Korea.


Are you not watching the Obama kingdom come crashing down? These ngo laundering mechanisms are littered with Obama/biden administration related parties.
 
There is no such thing.
I see we have another Fox News aficionado. Governor Andy Beshear would like a word with you. Among many others, but, again it’s not about Republicans vs. Democrats. It’s about basic tenets of decency and normalcy versus idiocy.

Here’s Trump, as recorded recently regarding the Kennedy Center. Only an idiot would support this felon.

 
I see we have another Fox News aficionado. Governor Andy Beshear would like a word with you. Among many others, but, again it’s not about Republicans vs. Democrats. It’s about basic tenets of decency and normalcy versus idiocy.

Here’s Trump, as recorded recently regarding the Kennedy Center. Only an idiot would support this felon.

You let lots of people live freely in your brain.
 
I see we have another Fox News aficionado. Governor Andy Beshear would like a word with you. Among many others, but, again it’s not about Republicans vs. Democrats. It’s about basic tenets of decency and normalcy versus idiocy.

Here’s Trump, as recorded recently regarding the Kennedy Center. Only an idiot would support this felon.

Is this recording supposed to be embarrassing?
 
I see we have another Fox News aficionado. Governor Andy Beshear would like a word with you. Among many others, but, again it’s not about Republicans vs. Democrats. It’s about basic tenets of decency and normalcy versus idiocy.

Here’s Trump, as recorded recently regarding the Kennedy Center. Only an idiot would support this felon.

What's wrong with anything he said in the tape?

It's like you live in Bizarro world.
 
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