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Ponca Dan

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As painful as it is for the Trump loyalists to admit.



 
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As painful as it is for the Trump loyalists to admit.



Seriously doubt that any “highly sensitive” documents would be on actual paper in the 21st century. Hell, I can’t even get AT&T to send me a bill on paper.
 
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I have no idea how this case works out but those that have already presumed Trump's guilt based on a overzealous indictment make me laugh. People need to put their politics and hatred aside and look at the process the government used to make this case. If the government did what Trump and his attorneys says they did, it should throw up huge concerns from everyone.

 
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I have no idea how this case works out but those that have already presumed Trump's guilt based on a overzealous indictment make me laugh. People need to put their politics and hatred aside and look at the process the government used to make this case. If the government did what Trump and his attorneys says they did, it should throw up huge concerns from everyone.

Ms. Coulter's point is the overzealous indictment is evidence that the process is biased against team Republican in general and Donald Trump in particular, of which is something Donald Trump should have been keenly aware. That he is caught on tape bragging about his criminal misdeed should convince people that he is not fit to be our leader. In my case it has nothing to do with hating him. I don't hate him. I don't like him, but my dislike is a far cry from hatred. I spent years defending him against the bogus charges that were constantly thrown his way. This does not appear to be a bogus charge. He will get his day in court and hopefully justice will be served. But as Coulter points out deflecting and whining about the double standard is not an appropriate defense.
 
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Ms. Coulter's point is the overzealous indictment is evidence that the process is biased against team Republican in general and Donald Trump in particular, of which is something Donald Trump should have been keenly aware. That he is caught on tape bragging about his criminal misdeed should convince people that he is not fit to be our leader. In my case it has nothing to do with hating him. I don't hate him. I don't like him, but my dislike is a far cry from hatred. I spent years defending him against the bogus charges that were constantly thrown his way. This does not appear to be a bogus charge. He will get his day in court and hopefully justice will be served. But as Coulter points out deflecting and whining about the double standard is not an appropriate defense.
Oh good lord. It's like Whitewater didn't exist.
 
I have no idea how this case works out but those that have already presumed Trump's guilt based on a overzealous indictment make me laugh. People need to put their politics and hatred aside and look at the process the government used to make this case. If the government did what Trump and his attorneys says they did, it should throw up huge concerns from everyone.

I still have a problem with the wording "marked classified". This implies that the document was unclassified but simply marked classified, which can occur. It would be in line with the Trump "declassified it" narrative as well.

The indictment was rambling and poorly written. The fact that it even mentions Hillary Clinton is a head scratcher.

I could go on but the slow will be coming by soon to tell me how I'm wrong because you know....I'm wrong.
 
Ms. Coulter's point is the overzealous indictment is evidence that the process is biased against team Republican in general and Donald Trump in particular, of which is something Donald Trump should have been keenly aware. That he is caught on tape bragging about his criminal misdeed should convince people that he is not fit to be our leader. In my case it has nothing to do with hating him. I don't hate him. I don't like him, but my dislike is a far cry from hatred. I spent years defending him against the bogus charges that were constantly thrown his way. This does not appear to be a bogus charge. He will get his day in court and hopefully justice will be served. But as Coulter points out deflecting and whining about the double standard is not an appropriate defense.
Pointing out the double standard is not a legal defense Dan, it's purely for politics just as the indictment was political. It will be interesting to see how much of the evidence released in the indictment is ruled inadmissible in court.
 
I still have a problem with the wording "marked classified". This implies that the document was unclassified but simply marked classified, which can occur. It would be in line with the Trump "declassified it" narrative as well.

The indictment was rambling and poorly written. The fact that it even mentions Hillary Clinton is a head scratcher.

I could go on but the slow will be coming by soon to tell me how I'm wrong because you know....I'm wrong.
Should we expect shit britches "crime" be pushed to the side?
 
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Oh good lord. It's like Whitewater didn't exist.
Bring me up to speed. I don't remember Bill Clinton being indicted over Whitewater. But I'm an old man and my memory is bad. Did Bill Clinon get indicted over Whitewater and I just don't remember?
 
Pointing out the double standard is not a legal defense Dan, it's purely for politics just as the indictment was political. It will be interesting to see how much of the evidence released in the indictment is ruled inadmissible in court.
I agree with you that the whole thing is political theater. But Trump stepped in it big time when he bragged on tape that he knowingly committed a crime. The "political line" got crossed because of his big mouth. I don't think he would have been indicted absent his "confession."
 
Bring me up to speed. I don't remember Bill Clinton being indicted over Whitewater. But I'm an old man and my memory is bad. Did Bill Clinon get indicted over Whitewater and I just don't remember?
He was on a roll Dan, you ruined it. :)
 
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Should we expect shit britches "crime" be pushed to the side?
The story isn't going away anytime soon. That being said I have no confidence in a Garland DOJ to do anything about it. Every time Biden will get highlighted, they will indict Trump and have an alien spotting. Which is great for the legacy media to just ignore the Biden (Obama) scandal.
 
I have no idea how this case works out but those that have already presumed Trump's guilt based on a overzealous indictment make me laugh.
What was "overzealous" about the indictment?

People need to put their politics and hatred aside and look at the process the government used to make this case. If the government did what Trump and his attorneys says they did, it should throw up huge concerns from everyone.
Why don't you put your politics aside for once?

All you are doing in parroting Trump's talking points. You are trying to deflect away from the crimes Trump allegedly committed and shift the blame to others.

Are you ever going to hold Trump accountable? Will you ever set your politics aside for once?

just as the indictment was political.
lol

How was the indictment political?
 
I agree with you that the whole thing is political theater. But Trump stepped in it big time when he bragged on tape that he knowingly committed a crime. The "political line" got crossed because of his big mouth. I don't think he would have been indicted absent his "confession."
“As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t"

As President, he did declassify it, according to the presidential records act the simple fact that he took it from the WH to Mar-a-Lago would declassify it. Just ask ole Bill, he will tell you that is the case. On top of that what was he showing off that was classified or was it just marked classified? To convict Trump the FBI is going to have to give you those secrets. If they show their hand and its letters between him and rocket man, the FBI's case is toast.
 
“As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t"

As President, he did declassify it, according to the presidential records act the simple fact that he took it from the WH to Mar-a-Lago would declassify it. Just ask ole Bill, he will tell you that is the case. On top of that what was he showing off that was classified or was it just marked classified? To convict Trump the FBI is going to have to give you those secrets. If they show their hand and its letters between him and rocket man, the FBI's case is toast.
Joes flock can't comprehend this.
 
Except Trump's own words, as cited in the indictment, clearly work against Trump's own poor legal "declassified it" narrative.
They have no bearing on it. He can say what ever, but does that actualy prove guilt? No it does not. He very well have ment it to be exactly what you think it is and it still doens't prove guilt. On top of that he may have just stumbled into declassifying it without him even knowing it, simply by taking them with him. Again, ask Bill how that works.
 
They have no bearing on it. He can say what ever, but does that actualy prove guilt? No it does not. He very well have ment it to be exactly what you think it is and it still doens't prove guilt. On top of that he may have just stumbled into declassifying it without him even knowing it, simply by taking them with him. Again, ask Bill how that works.
Hillary thanks her lucky stars everyday I'm sure. Bitch should lay back in the shadows imo.
 
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I agree with you that the whole thing is political theater.
So have you now changed your mind Dan?

Here is a precious comment you made on Trump being charged:
my answer that Trump deserves to be charged and deserves his day in court.

Do you no longer believe this? Because, if Trump deserved to be charged, this "whole thing" can't just be political theater.
 
So have you now changed your mind Dan?

Here is a precious comment you made on Trump being charged:


Do you no longer believe this? Because, if Trump deserved to be charged, this "whole thing" can't just be political theater.
You expect a "Broadway show?"
 
They have no bearing on it.
Wrong. His own words absolutely do have a bearing on it.

It is hilarious though watching you attempt to defend Trump even against Trump's own words lol!

The struggle is real for you right now.

He can say what ever, but does that actualy prove guilt? No it does not.
It helps proves guilt, absolutely. It is one piece of evidence among all the other pieces of evidence cited in the indictment.
 
Wrong. His own words absolutely do have a bearing on it.

It is hilarious though watching you attempt to defend Trump even against Trump's own words lol!

The struggle is real for you right now.


It helps proves guilt, absolutely. It is one piece of evidence among all the other pieces of evidence cited in the indictment.
Struggle on.
 
Her Benghazi mess is enough for her to sit the **** down and shut the **** up before we throw your ass into jail.
Look at you, being all political. Wanting to throw into jail a political opponent. How dare you!🤔🤣

Lock her up. Not political at all. You cared about the rule of law back then, huh? Now, when it is Trump, all of a sudden, it is all political. To heck with the rule of law. You must defend Trump at all costs.

No lock "him" up from you. Never.
 
Look at you, being all political. Wanting to throw into jail a political opponent. How dare you!🤔🤣

Lock her up. Not political at all. You cared about the rule of law back then, huh? Now, when it is Trump, all of a sudden, it is all political. To heck with the rule of law. You must defend Trump at all costs.

No lock "him" up from you. Never.
Joe wants to rub yer head. Now git on his lap.
 
So have you now changed your mind Dan?

Here is a precious comment you made on Trump being charged:


Do you no longer believe this? Because, if Trump deserved to be charged, this "whole thing" can't just be political theater.
My opinion from day one has been the entire prosecution has been politically motivated, and when Trump admitted on tape he knowingly committed a crime he deserved to be indicted. There was a thread a few days ago in which I told both you and Bearecat that both could be true at the same time. Now go find someone else to argue with. You bore me.
 
which I told both you and Bearecat that both could be true at the same time.
But both can't be true. One cannot believe this "whole" thing is political theater and also believe that Trump deserved to be charged apart from politics and according to the rule of law.

As much as I enjoy watching you flail around trying to determine how you can defend Trump while still admitting the obvious truth, you need to make up your mind for once. Stop consistently contradicting yourself.
 
Wrong. His own words absolutely do have a bearing on it.

It is hilarious though watching you attempt to defend Trump even against Trump's own words lol!

The struggle is real for you right now.


It helps proves guilt, absolutely. It is one piece of evidence among all the other pieces of evidence cited in the indictment.
I could go on but the slow will be coming by soon to tell me how I'm wrong because you know....I'm wrong.
 
But both can't be true. One cannot believe this "whole" thing is political theater and also believe that Trump deserved to be charged apart from politics and according to the rule of law.

As much as I enjoy watching you flail around trying to determine how you can defend Trump while still admitting the obvious truth, you need to make up your mind for once. Stop consistently contradicting yourself.
Peanut butter on waffles is amazing. You should give it a try. Yer moms musta neglected you.
 
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I could go on but the slow will be coming by soon to tell me how I'm wrong because you know....I'm wrong.
So this is all you are left with, huh? lol

What you are arguing for here is not a legitimate defense to these charges. Not to mention that unless Trump has a document or a witness to point to, Trump is going to have to take the stand and testify if his lawyers decide to use this very weak defense.

Even some of your fellow right-wingers who understand the law know this. Maybe you should start listening to someone other than Trump. Maybe, for once, stop bending over backwards to defend a conman and a crook.

Andy McCarthy Shoots Down Trump’s Top Argument Against Indictment: ‘I Don’t Think He Has a Defense’
 
But both can't be true. One cannot believe this "whole" thing is political theater and also believe that Trump deserved to be charged apart from politics and according to the rule of law.

As much as I enjoy watching you flail around trying to determine how you can defend Trump while still admitting the obvious truth, you need to make up your mind for once. Stop consistently contradicting yourself.
Saying the prosecution is politically motivated is not "defending" Trump. It's looking at reality. Trump screwed up royally by shooting off his big mouth. I do not think they would have indicted absent his "confession." He will get his day in court, as he should. It will be interesting to see how he is defended. I'm sure no matter what the verdict one side or the other will be furious.
 
So this is all you are left with, huh? lol

What you are arguing for here is not a legitimate defense to these charges. Not to mention that unless Trump has a document or a witness to point to, Trump is going to have to take the stand and testify if his lawyers decide to use this very weak defense.

Even some of your fellow right-wingers who understand the law know this. Maybe you should start listening to someone other than Trump. Maybe, for once, stop bending over backwards to defend a conman and a crook.

Andy McCarthy Shoots Down Trump’s Top Argument Against Indictment: ‘I Don’t Think He Has a Defense’
That's just stupidity on display. Of course Trump will have a defense and it will be vigorous and sensible. The only question will be if the jury accepts it.
 
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