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Russell Okung - Huh?

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Here's the article he wrote:

Seahawks lineman Russell Okung responds to Paul Graham’s essay on economic inequality and startups

BY RUSSELL OKUNG on January 14, 2016 at 3:10 pm




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Seahawks lineman Russell Okung is the co-founder of Greater, a Seattle-based non-profit that helps mentor youth. Photos courtesy of Okung.
Editor’s note: Seahawks lineman Russell Okung, also co-founder of a Seattle non-profit called GREATER and an investor in local eSports startup Matcherino, wrote this piece for GeekWire in response to Paul Graham’s essay on income inequality.

Just a few days ago, a kick that landed wide left in the final moments of a hard-fought game against an admirable opponent sent us, the Seahawks, into the next round of the playoffs. Two teams equal in athletic ability and access, one winner.

Now, imagine if the National Football League only gave the Seahawks access to helmets and pads, for instance, and not the Vikings. Two teams equal in athletic ability no longer equal in access. I can’t help but draw parallels as I sit and reflect on this fleeting game, and how it relates to life off the field.

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Last week, I stumbled upon Y Combinator co-founder Paul Graham’s essay on economic inequality, which he argues is a good thing.

Shrewd and a bit heartless? I’m not entirely sure.

Graham is perhaps one of the greatest men in Silicon Valley. He helped create a program that invested in people, helping further not only their companies and products and services, but also their teams and their understanding of the market. People like the creators of Dropbox, Airbnb and Heroku. People who had dreams and needed someone else to believe in those dreams, too. The business model of YC was centered on empowering people who would go on to create some of the best companies in the world.

But for a man who has invested so much in others, Graham, your words leave me baffled: What happened to your first love? What happened to building up those people? I believe wealth has the potential to breed elitism. And I believe because of Graham’s success, he may have lost his way.

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Some think working hard solves the problems of poverty and institutional oppression and the lack of social mobility. Some think that by sheer determination, one can overcome such issues.

But economic inequality isn’t the symptom; it’s the virus that attacks. You, Graham, like the rest of America, have been deceived. You are a victim of the American Dream, the belief that anyone who works hard can move up economically regardless of his or her social circumstances. American cultural optimism is one of the greatest lies ever told.

It does take determination, but that’s only part of the equation. People need breaks. I say this as a man from an at-risk background who “made it.” Was I determined? Yes. I’ve worked diligently at my craft to make it to the highest level of my profession. Not everyone was so fortunate, and there are a number of reasons for that, but I wouldn’t attribute their ability to “make it” to laziness or lack of ingenuity so much as I’d attribute it to a lack of exposure.

Nicholas Fitz writes that “By overemphasizing individual mobility, we ignore important social determinants of success like family inheritance, social connections, and structural discrimination.” Whether it’s the NFL hypothetically giving only one team protective gear, or a talented high school student who’s denied admission to a prestigious university because her school doesn’t offer Advanced Placement classes, the common denominator is access — or lack thereof.

CODE2040, a non-profit that creates avenues in the innovation economy for underrepresented individuals. People like Steve Case and Barack Obama, who are actively working to expand capital and invest in untapped talent across America. These are the people who see an injustice or an underserved area and believe it’s their civic duty to do something about it.

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Regarding startups, Graham, America needs more Silicon Valley, scattered as opposed to centralized in one place. We need to build people up.

Every day I ask myself: What can I do about it? How can I step in and share myself? How can I give a hand up?

I co-founded a nonprofit called GREATER. We believe the answer to the problems we’re facing in the world today can be solved once we create a deeper roster of leaders who are willing to serve. GREATER partners with existing schools, youth groups, non-profit organizations and businesses not to create new leaders, but to work with the existing leader in each of us. We believe if you’re willing to serve, you should be willing to lead, and if you’re willing to lead, you should be willing to mentor others to do the same.

I urge you, Graham, along with the rest of the community, to return to your first love. Build people up.
 
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Income inequality is a problem and we need a president and congress who are able to fix it. We currently have neither. My issue is with his comments about the American Dream. He is living an American dream. His family came from Nigeria and he had an opportunity to become a multimillionaire. It isn't a lie. His comments remind me of all of the "white privilege" crap.
 
Certainly the wrong board for this. But aren't there winners and losers in socialist countries? Besides, we're a more socialist country than people know or admit anyway, unfortunately.
 
I am pretty sure that for most of the time the, US has been around it has not stood for income equality but rather income opportunity. If you are willing to work and are smart about it you can accomplish your dreams. BUT NO ONE IS GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU.
 
The American Dream still exists but Okung us raising valid points. This isn't a binary issue.
 
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Okung has God given genetics that most don't have. That helped him overcome the many barriers that create income equality. It sounds like he's speaking up for many who don't have the genetics he has.
 
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Okay. Everyone makes 50k. Whether your Steve Jobs or the fry cook at McDonald's that's missing. Chromosome or two.

That a free healthcare. Won't that be utopia?
 
Makes me think of the movie "Get Hard", when Craig T. Nelson's character(in an attempt of paraphrasing) says: "I've worked very hard to be were I am. When I first started, all I had was a computer and the $800,000 dollars my dad gave me".
 
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Okung has God given genetics that most don't have. That helped him overcome the many barriers that create income equality. It sounds like he's speaking up for many who don't have the genetics he has.
its no doubt a complicated issue, but my opinion is that there are a lot of things which determine success which aren't systemic issues. I just found it hypocritical for a guy who's family came America to improve their lot in life, and accomplished that, to be complaining about the American Dream.
 
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Hes probably right. 48 million is too much to pay a big guy to shove around another big guy to entertain smaller guys.

I hope his lifestyle reflects it. If he's serious about it he should live in an average house with average cars and donate his wealth to the teachers, police, firemen and programs that work with the under privileged.
 
I think most of you missed the boat on what Russell was saying. A lot of what he says in that article is based upon his Christian beliefs.
 
If someone been brainwash its not Russell. Look in the mirror. Give credit to Russell for recognizing just because he makes millions of dollars a year playing sports that's not a realistic road out of poverty. One out of thousands of kids who play sports ever play in the NFL or NBA.

First of all considered the source of the article you read. He takes one quote from Russell essay which is true by the way and somehow fills that because Russell makes 8M a year he should be blind to the plight of others. Reading the actually essay above give you a much fuller and educated view of the facts.

Simply put it is about opportunity. If you Daddy and Grandydaddy went to Yale and you get admitted despite having a C average in high school because you are a "legacy",. If you are born with a trust fund. etc., you have a huge head start. Even if you simply born into a middle class family and have the funds to attend a school like OSU you are well ahead of the curve The farther down the economic later the fall the harder you have to work to achieve equal results. The less probability of success you have. It's simply a statistical fact.

Please stop being complete retards and calling any attempt to provide opportunity in this country "socialism".
 
Income inequality is a terrible description of this problem. I sit on a national board that deals exclusively with at risk kids in the worst school systems. Average grad rate is sub 55%.

The problems aren't opportunity or a top down social structure, but almost unanimously family and community dynamics that are a nightmare and create built in barriers for these kids to overcome.

Our statistics for the kids in our program, which we start working with in the second grade, have an avg HS grad rate above 95% and are represented in some of the greatest schools and jobs that exist.

It's not another social program, but doing something as simple as partnering with the parent (almost 100% single parent households), schools, and broader communities to elevate expectations for these kids lives.

We have broken family structures, not federal programs.
 
If someone been brainwash its not Russell. Look in the mirror. Give credit to Russell for recognizing just because he makes millions of dollars a year playing sports that's not a realistic road out of poverty. One out of thousands of kids who play sports ever play in the NFL or NBA.

First of all considered the source of the article you read. He takes one quote from Russell essay which is true by the way and somehow fills that because Russell makes 8M a year he should be blind to the plight of others. Reading the actually essay above give you a much fuller and educated view of the facts.

Simply put it is about opportunity. If you Daddy and Grandydaddy went to Yale and you get admitted despite having a C average in high school because you are a "legacy",. If you are born with a trust fund. etc., you have a huge head start. Even if you simply born into a middle class family and have the funds to attend a school like OSU you are well ahead of the curve The farther down the economic later the fall the harder you have to work to achieve equal results. The less probability of success you have. It's simply a statistical fact.

Please stop being complete retards and calling any attempt to provide opportunity in this country "socialism".
Find me a country where this opportunity is better. The lesson should be to quit putting your faith in government. the biggest issue is the loser mindset of worrying about what you don't have.
 
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Income inequality is a terrible description of this problem. I sit on a national board that deals exclusively with at risk kids in the worst school systems. Average grad rate is sub 55%.

The problems aren't opportunity or a top down social structure, but almost unanimously family and community dynamics that are a nightmare and create built in barriers for these kids to overcome.

Our statistics for the kids in our program, which we start working with in the second grade, have an avg HS grad rate above 95% and are represented in some of the greatest schools and jobs that exist.

It's not another social program, but doing something as simple as partnering with the parent (almost 100% single parent schools, and broader communities to elevate expectations for these kids lives.

We have broken family structures, not federal programs.
I think you hit the nail on the head. People won't like it but the breaking down of the family structure is a major factor in a majority of the issues facing the country.
 
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And the "breaking down of family structure" IS'NT deeply, intrinsically tied to centuries of systemic inequality and crippling poverty?

That's your privilege talking.
 
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And the "breaking down of family structure" IS'NT deeply, intrinsically tied to centuries of systemic inequality and crippling poverty?

That's your privilege talking.

Actually it's a new phenomenon and hasn't been systemic to this degree in any culture in history regardless of socioeconomics.

If someone wants to compare resumes with me regarding privilege vs crawling out of generational poverty and uneducated histories, I'd be glad to enter that debate. I have the privilege of working with lots of minority and white families and the stories are frighteningly similar.

No bureaucracy can fix the problems being described here. Prisons tell their stories and no amount of money or engineering is going to resolve this. It's literally a message of hope and that it can be found.
 
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And the "breaking down of family structure" IS'NT deeply, intrinsically tied to centuries of systemic inequality and crippling poverty?

That's your privilege talking.


Oh? Really? Why have families only really started to disintegrate in the last two generations?

We dump more money into social programs than we ever have. The problem just gets worse. Why?
 
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When I see more prisons built in this country and schools being torn down, there's something fundamentally wrong with the way our government spends its F'ing money, and I'm not a GD socialist either.
 
When I see more prisons built in this country and schools being torn down, there's something fundamentally wrong with the way our government spends its F'ing money, and I'm not a GD socialist either.

You tell a group of people that life is unfair and that there is no hope for them, without the government, this is what you get.
 
And the "breaking down of family structure" IS'NT deeply, intrinsically tied to centuries of systemic inequality and crippling poverty?

That's your privilege talking.

No, its not actually. Minorities had better family structure and less divorce rates before the socialist started to "fix" income inequality and give them a "helping hand."
 
And the "breaking down of family structure" IS'NT deeply, intrinsically tied to centuries of systemic inequality and crippling poverty?

That's your privilege talking.

No. For example in the black community, the family survived slavery and Jim Crow, but has fallen apart since the great society.
 
As someone who was raised by a single dad and raised in a lower middle class home and paid > 75% of my own college and now enjoys an AGI in the top 5 percentile in the USA, AND at the same time recognize that I am hardly extraordinary, I don't have a ton of sympathy for this viewpoint.

I do on a personal level. That's why I volunteer at the John 3:16 Mission and donate there and elsewhere.

Not everyone is going to be economically successful. That's just the facts of life. But there are still opportunities available and the solutions being proposed (e.g. making college free for everyone) aren't going to help.
 
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If you don't think income inequality isn't a major problem in this country, you're the one who's misguided.

Its not a problem, because I don't care if somebody is rich. I'm more concerned with making the lives of the poor better, and not worrying about how rich somebody else is. Life isn't a zero sum game, just because somebody is wealthy, doesnt mean they are making others poor.
 
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