C141A, you could be right and I agree with you he has more upside than Crutchmer but at this point in his young career he is only marginally better. The only reason , at least to me, to pull him out of redshirt as a freshman is for the Big 12 and nationals and there certainly is no sure bet that he will qualify at Nationals. Cody Brewer is a two time AA as a RS Junior at 133. Earl Hall is a returning AA albeit at 125 for Iowa State and West Virginia has a good Cory Stainbrook who was a NCAA qualifier last year. We replace Crutchmer with him and we probably will not qualify for the NCAA's anyway. Parents could have changed their mid as could GWH but at one point not too far in the past they did want him to redshirt. John has said he wanted him to redshirt although I am sure John is frustrated and may change his mind on that. Gary Wayne could gain a spot at NCAA if he were to beat one of the above wrestlers but at this point it would not appear the odds are good.