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the Jewish Family Service of Western Massachussets's own city and or town, probably just by coincidence, is Springfield MA.

Either NZ:

1. Is unaware of that fact....which means he hasn't critically looked at what was said in any shape, manner or form, or;

2. Is aware of that fact and is playing his own little game of "identity politics".
 
More bullshit.

I'm not implying anything.

What I said was completely factual.

They are people of color.

He doesn't want them there.

Maybe you should be the one reading "very carefully".

I'm well aware of the "game" you are playing. Frankly, I'm better versed in your narrative than you are. The difference being I looked at it critically and rejected it as just another blue pill while you have overdosed on it.

When you (not NZ) say "people of color" its you who is attributing that belief to the mayor, whereas there is ample evidence that that's not his belief. You chose to use identity politics where in this case, there clearly isn't. This is a socio-economic statement from the mayor, who recognizes that communities can only handle a certain percentage of poor (regardless of color) before it drags down the overall community. And you are lying to yourself and others if you don't recognize that these refugees are dirt poor and 100% dependent upon the community for survival.
 
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Does he not want them there because they are people of color or because they will immediately go on the government teat and drain the city of valuable and finite resources?
 
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When you (not NZ) say "people of color" its you who is attributing that belief to the mayor, whereas there is ample evidence that that's not his belief. You chose to use identity politics where in this case, there clearly isn't. This is a socio-economic statement from the mayor, who recognizes that communities can only handle a certain percentage of poor (regardless of color) before it drags down the overall community. And you are lying to yourself and others if you don't recognize that these refugees are dirt poor and 100% dependent upon the community for survival.

I didn't attribute any belief to the mayor.

I made two factual statements.

Both are true.

And I can't help but notice you studiously avoided NZ references to Jews being the resettlement agency in the context of all his other posts in your evaluation of identity politics.
 
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@CowboyJD with an unforced "people of color" error allowing the reasonable posters to come to the defense of the the antisemite.

They sure are focused on the mote in the eye of their opposition rather than the log in eye of the dude they are defending. Those that are gonna defend him are gonna defend him anyway.

I'm just playing NZ's game right now. He was the first to avoid addressing the indisputable facts by screaming identity politics and claiming that I "implied" something I didn't explicitly say. I'm just pointing out information. People can draw whatever conclusion they want.
 
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Does he not want them there because they are people of color or because they will immediately go on the government teat and drain the city of valuable and finite resources?

I'm just pointing out facts, man....not telling anyone what to think.

Kinda like NZ does....except that my two factual statements haven't been refuted as inaccurate.

Not my problem if those facts make you or anyone else uncomfortable or defensive.
 
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I'm just pointing out facts, man....not telling anyone what to think.

Kinda like NZ does....except that my two factual statements haven't been refuted as inaccurate.

Not my problem if those facts make you or anyone else uncomfortable or defensive.

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My concern would be, why are we receiving "refugees" from Bhutan, an asian country between India and China? Whether they are considered "people of color" or not, I don't care, but why are they getting a free ride here? What great war are they running from? The same questions apply to Eritrea refugees. Why are we taking them in at all?
 
My concern would be, why are we receiving "refugees" from Bhutan, an asian country between India and China? Whether they are considered "people of color" or not, I don't care, but why are they getting a free ride here? What great war are they running from? The same questions apply to Eritrea refugees. Why are we taking them in at all?
Ethnic cleansing in Bhutan
Conscription and civil liberties in Eritrea
 
That's terrible and all but how many millions of Americans are homeless or living in poverty? We have our own homegrown "refugees" that should be taken care of before we allow any more in.
 
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Neither Healthcare Act has to do with intake of Refugees. Also outgoing aid should be reconsidered until we can take care or our own. Yes, that means military aid as well. Just tired of US shipping so many resources out while not taking care of our own. And taking care of our own does not mean handouts or freebies.
 
Neither Healthcare Act has to do with intake of Refugees. Also outgoing aid should be reconsidered until we can take care or our own. Yes, that means military aid as well. Just tired of US shipping so many resources out while not taking care of our own. And taking care of our own does not mean handouts or freebies.
Again, the credibility on taking care of our own is undisputed.
 
It's ironic you mention Eritrea.


Israel is deporting its Eritrean refugees to Uganda and Rwanda (two countries and cultures that are nowhere near Eritrea) -- in exchange for arms and military training.






Compare Eritrea's location on map to Uganda and Rwanda. Deporting Eritreans to those two countries (seemingly as human currency for military arms) seems insanely wicked, insanely calculated or both.

Perhaps you can explain --- and also imagine the media (and left's) reaction if America started deporting illegal Mexicans to Peru (in exchange for Apache helicopters).



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You posted a picture of Netanyahu and Trump in response to NZ's post about Israel shipping refugees out. I was guessing maybe your point was somehow Trump was involved in that. Maybe I read something into your post that wasn't intended?
 
You posted a picture of Netanyahu and Trump in response to NZ's post about Israel shipping refugees out. I was guessing maybe your point was somehow Trump was involved in that. Maybe I read something into your post that wasn't intended?
No just that Trump is buddies with Netanyahu.
 
Can't imagine that many of the frequent posters, on this site, would be upset if the U.S. was sending large numbers of refugees to Uganda/Rwanda, along with arms, as opposed to keeping them within the U.S. Don't we want less refugees in our country?

Compare Eritrea's location on map to Uganda and Rwanda. Deporting Eritreans to those two countries (seemingly as human currency for military arms) seems insanely wicked, insanely calculated or both.


Ah, there's the NZ that I know and love. Those damn wicked, calculating Jews are at it again.
 
Ethnic cleansing in Bhutan
Conscription and civil liberties in Eritrea

It's ironic you mention Eritrea.


Israel is deporting its Eritrean refugees to Uganda and Rwanda (two countries and cultures that are nowhere near Eritrea) -- in exchange for arms and military training.






Compare Eritrea's location on map to Uganda and Rwanda. Deporting Eritreans to those two countries (seemingly as human currency for military arms) seems insanely wicked, insanely calculated or both.

Perhaps you can explain --- and also imagine the media (and left's) reaction if America started deporting illegal Mexicans to Peru (in exchange for Apache helicopters).



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There have been people here advocating deporting all illegal immigrants to Mexico irrespective of their nationality.

Given your historical looseness with facts, I'm gonna need more than "seemingly as human currency for military arms" before accepting that as anything even remotely accurate.
 
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See below:





Israel 'sending away African migrants'

The BBC has gathered evidence that Israel is sending unwanted African migrants to other countries under secretive deals which may be in breach of international law.

The Israeli government refuses to name the third countries involved in the deals, but the BBC has spoken to people who say they were sent to Rwanda and Uganda.

Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-35478964/israel-sending-away-african-migrants



Israel May Be Trafficking Former Eritrean Slaves

Take an unwanted refugee, get military equipment in exchange



"Aman's tale is representative of thousands of Eritrean refugees who have been caught up in the deadly nexus of the illicit arms trade … and human trafficking.

The pattern is often the same. Refugees fleeing one of the most repressive regimes in the world get stuck and eventually arrested in Israel, which bills itself as the only democracy in the Middle East.

In exchange for helping Israel to get rid of its unwanted refugee population, East African military and intelligence officers travel to Israel to receive training and go on shopping sprees for high-tech military hardware. Refugees, especially from Eritrea, have become a kind of currency in arms deals between some of the world’s shadiest and most corrupt governments.

Israel has a long history of exporting arms to Africa, but the pace of its exports has picked up substantially over the last few years. Sales doubledbetween 2012 to 2013, around the time that Israeli officials said that deals for trading refugees against arms were close to being finalized. They rose again by around 40 percent in 2014, reaching the second consecutive all-time high of $318 million, a remarkable increase compared to just $77 million in 2009.


Source: http://warisboring.com/israel-could-be-complicit-in-refugees-for-weapons-swap/



Rejected by Israel, Eritreans find shelter in Germany

3 March 2017

The Israeli government has been unwelcoming to Eritrean nationals, granting refugee status to less than one percent of arrivals.

Israel does not deport Eritreans back to their dangerous homeland because that would violate the United Nations Refugee Convention. Instead, Eritreans get short-term visas that must be continuously renewed, but they have no right to work or access to welfare services.

Israel - a signee of the UN Refugee Convention - sends people who need protection to countries that do not protect them, in the process, forcing asylum seekers to go on dangerous smuggling routes, according to reports by international and Israeli NGOsand interviews that Al Jazeera conducted with Eritreans who made it to Europe.

Since 2008, about 123,000 Eritreans have applied for asylum in the European Union, mostly in Germany and Sweden.

Throughout the EU, about 93 percent of Eritrean asylum applicants are granted some form of protection.

Source: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...ans-find-shelter-germany-170221071249657.html

Israel May Be Trafficking Former Eritrean Slaves.....

"May Be"

Source: http://warisboring.com/israel-could-be-complicit-in-refugees-for-weapons-swap/


"Could be"

So no...this isn't anything more substantial than your prior "seemingly".

Your entire screed basically assumes that what "might be" or "could be"......IS and proceeds accordingly.

EXCELLENT CRITICAL THINKING.
 
JD, I've read this thread a couple of times now and while I consider myself fairly intelligent I'm lost at how your seeing this as anything but an economic statement by the mayor. Not trying to pick a fight, just not seeing the subliminal messaging you are.

What am I missing?
 
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JD, I've read this thread a couple of times now and while I consider myself fairly intelligent I'm lost at how your seeing this as anything but an economic statement by the mayor. Not trying to pick a fight, just not seeing the subliminal messaging you are.

What am I missing?

Your first mistake was assuming anything about how I'm seeing this. At no point did I say or claim that the Mayor doesn't want them there BECAUSE they are people of color.

I merely made two assertions of fact and let others draw their own conclusions as to what that may mean. Kinda like how how NZ claims he does with the Jews and media control/diversity driving/etc. The difference being my two factual statements are actually accurate....unlike so many of his.

I'm just pointing out facts, man....not telling anyone what to think.

Kinda like NZ does....except that my two factual statements haven't been refuted as inaccurate.

Not my problem if those facts make you or anyone else uncomfortable or defensive.
 
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Last time I checked, Mayors didn't have the authority to keep out undesirable people of color whether it's the Jews or the Lutherans or someone else assisting them.

But yes, Jewish diversity attacks on America and the world.....again....we get it.

I believe this is the referenced quote.
 
I believe this is the referenced quote.

Yep. That's the one.

They are people of color.

He doesn't desire them in his town.

Thus, they are undesirable people of color.

Like I said, I made a factual statement. People chose their own larger implications of those facts how they wanted.
 
The same way I see racists everywhere, some people see people calling things racist everywhere.
 
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It actually says in the Oxford English dictionary that only white people can be "racist" so my hands are tied on this issue.
 
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