Presidents

[my_2cents]

As one who loves history, I thought I'd start a conversation about past Presidents.

Everyone here seems to have strong political viewpoints. So I am wondering, who would you say is your favorite President and who was your least favorite President?

To keep a historical element to this, let's exclude the current President and the previous three Presidents.

 

[AC_Exotic]

Favorite: Ronald Reagan, Lincoln, or Washington

Least Favorite: LBJ, Andrew Jackson, or FDR

 

[Ostatedchi]

Favorites: Reagan, Teddy, Washington, Jefferson

Least: FDR, LBJ, Carter, Wilson, Hoover

 

[my_2cents]

Here are mine...

Favorite: Eisenhower, Lincoln, FDR

Least Favorite: Buchanan, Hoover, Nixon

 

[my_2cents]

Least Favorite: Andrew Jackson

Just curious, why do you list him as one of your least favorite?

 

[DrunkenViking]

Favorites: Washington, Jefferson, Kennedy, Trump

Least favorites: Wilson, FDR, Nixon

Hated: Obama, most corrupt piece of shit to ever hold the office. Fvcking worthless traitor.

 

[my_2cents]

Favorites: Washington, Jefferson, Kennedy, Trump

Least favorites: Wilson, FDR, Nixon

Hated: Obama, most corrupt piece of shit to ever hold the office. Fvcking worthless traitor.

Guess you missed the part about excluding the current and previous three Presidents.

 

[AC_Exotic]

Just curious, why do you list him as one of your least favorite?

Any Oklahoman who values their Native American heritage views him as a heartless villain, which he was.

He applied the same ethical shortcomings virtually throughout his presidency.

 

[my_2cents]

Any Oklahoman who values their Native American heritage views him as a heartless villain, which he was.

He applied the same ethical shortcomings virtually throughout his presidency.

I agree. I originally had him in my least favorites (chose to include Nixon instead) but he definately is low on my list. There are a few positions that Jackson held though that I agree with and one can't deny the impact he had, whether for better or worse.

Would love to see him removed from the $20 bill.

 

[AC_Exotic]

I agree. I originally had him in my least favorites (chose to include Nixon instead) but he definately is low on my list. There are a few positions that Jackson held though that I agree with and one can't deny the impact he had, whether for better or worse.

Would love to see him removed from the $20 bill.

I considered putting Nixon on my worst list.

I still don't like him because the Watergate scandal kept cutting into my cartoon viewing time when I was a kid. (1974 was before cable tv).

 

[my_2cents]

I considered putting Nixon on my worst list.

I still don't like him because the Watergate scandal kept cutting into my cartoon viewing time when I was a kid. (1974 was before cable tv).

haha

Nixon is a tragic figure. He had so much potential and yet he squandered it away. Allowed his character flaws to get the best of him. He had some good accomplishments but they were all overshadowed by his self-destructive nature.

 

[AC_Exotic]

haha

Nixon is a tragic figure. He had so much potential and yet he squandered it away. Allowed his character flaws to get the best of him. He had some good accomplishments but they were all overshadowed by his self-destructive nature.

His paranoia got the best of him.

 

[my_2cents]

His paranoia got the best of him.

Yeah and unfortunately he surrounded himself with men who encouraged that paranoia.

I wonder sometimes what a President Nixon would have looked like had he not lost in 1960 to Kennedy. That loss along with the '62 loss seems to have encouraged a bitterness in him that became a cancer.

 

[DrunkenViking]

Guess you missed the part about excluding the current and previous three Presidents.

Sure did

 

[DrunkenViking]

I agree. I originally had him in my least favorites (chose to include Nixon instead) but he definately is low on my list. There are a few positions that Jackson held though that I agree with and one can't deny the impact he had, whether for better or worse.

Would love to see him removed from the $20 bill.

They only put him on the $20 out of spite.

A big fvck you.

 

[my_2cents]

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[Tulsaaggieson]

Model for president: Washington

Like: Any of the founders even when I disagree with their policy.

Underrated: Reagan is not given enough credit for his achievements and governance. He is rated high by conservatives but not given enough credit by liberals.

Overrated: Lincoln. While he is beloved for the civil war and dissolving of slavery his disregard for the Constitution to achieve victory in the civil war is disturbing.

Dislike: W. Wilson, FDR, Carter

Model not for President: can’t list as doesn’t fit peramiters.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Favorites: Washington, Jefferson, Kennedy, Trump

Least favorites: Wilson, FDR, Nixon

Hated: Obama, most corrupt piece of shit to ever hold the office. Fvcking worthless traitor.

More corrupt than Nixon huh? Lol what a crock of shit

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Model for president: Washington

Like: Any of the founders even when I disagree with their policy.

Underrated: Reagan is not given enough credit for his achievements and governance. He is rated high by conservatives but not given enough credit by liberals.

Overrated: Lincoln. While he is beloved for the civil war and dissolving of slavery his disregard for the Constitution to achieve victory in the civil war is disturbing.

Dislike: W. Wilson, FDR, Carter

Model not for President: can’t list as doesn’t fit peramiters.

Reagan put this country in deep debt. You conservatives don’t criticize him enough for that

 

[my_2cents]

Reagan put this country in deep debt. You conservatives don’t criticize him enough for that

Who is your favorites and least favorites CScott?

 

[osuengineer]

Somewhat objective ranking from C-SPAN after polling lots of historians. Obviously there’s no accounting for taste, but provides a starting point in my mind:
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2017/?page=overall

Top 3: Jefferson, T.Roosevelt, Lincoln
Bottom 3: Hoover, Jackson, Buchanan

 

[Onepokeovertheline]

Reagan put this country in deep debt. You conservatives don’t criticize him enough for that

Obama put this country in deeper debt, you leftists don’t criticize him enough for it.

 

[CowboyJD]

Caveat: My list of favorites isn’t about who advanced positions or concepts I am in favor of or agree with or who did the best job for the country or anything about.

It’s about the Presidents that when I have studied them taught me there is something I just like about them, something valuable studying that I learned or some insight that I came to from studying them.

That being said....

Favorites: Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, and LBJ

Least favorite: Nixon, Hoover, Wilson

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Obama put this country in deeper debt, you leftists don’t criticize him enough for it.

It was already in debt from Bush’s brilliant economic policies.

 

[DrunkenViking]

More corrupt than Nixon huh? Lol what a crock of shit

Makes Nixon look like a choir boy Pussyhat

Ibwontvtespindcagain in this thread. I don’t want to muck up a thread started with good intent.

Especially with a brain dead millennial that soaks up fake news like a black hole, still lives with mummy and datty, and has no idea what the real world is like or even how to be a self sustaining adult.

 

[my_2cents]

Caveat: My list of favorites isn’t about who advanced positions or concepts I am in favor of or agree with or who did the best job for the country or anything about.

It’s about the Presidents that when I have studied them taught me there is something I just like about them, something valuable studying that I learned or some insight that I came to from studying them.

That being said....

Favorites: Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, and LBJ

Least favorite: Nixon, Hoover, Wilson

What about LBJ did you like or learned through your studies?

 

[CowboyJD]

What about LBJ did you like or learned through your studies?

Lots about the nature of power...how you get it, how you keep it, what you can do with it.

 

[Onepokeovertheline]

It was already in debt from Bush’s brilliant economic policies.

Uh. Did it go up?

Yay my team!!

 

[Onepokeovertheline]

It was already in debt from Bush’s brilliant economic policies.

And I guess you’re going to just ignore Carter’s 20% interest rates.

Yes you are. Yay my team!

 

[DrunkenViking]

What about LBJ did you like or learned through your studies?

Read he was packing a massive hog leg and used to use it to intimidate.

 

[JimmyBob]

Lots about the nature of power...how you get it, how you keep it, what you can do with it.

And then there's Box 13, which explained it all:

https://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2010/08/today-in-texas-history-lbjs-stolen-senate-victory/

 

[my_2cents]

Lots about the nature of power...how you get it, how you keep it, what you can do with it.

Power and LBJ definitely go together. His political assent is entertaining to study.

I've always been more impressed with LBJ's record as President than Kennedy's. Kennedy could inspire but LBJ knew how to legislate. His legislative success as President is impressve and I don't know if Kennedy could have accomplished what LBJ did (especially concerning the CIvil Rights Bill and Voting Act). Of course, LBJ used Kennedy's memory to his political advantage and that did helped.

LBJ's undoing though was Vietnam and a stain on his presidency. He inherited a mess but he just made it worse.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Who is your favorites and least favorites CScott?

Jesus you could put a pcsyc major grad student on the map if you just turned yourself in.

 

[jkosu]

Favorites: Teddy, Lincoln, Washington

Least: LBJ, Jackson, .....Eh?

I think Carter was a bad president but a decent human being. Went to Plains, Georgia a couple of years ago after visiting the Infantry Museum at Fort Benning (worth a visit, btw). Just missed the former president out for a bicycle ride....but there was a note in the store there that announced the dates he would be teaching Sunday School at his church.
He also apparently never threw his weight around to get rid of the giant peanut in town that someone threw together to resemble him....