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Potential 'Smoking Gun' Showing Obama Administration Spied on Trump Team, Source Says

Smoking gun = wiretap. President Trump was proven correct.

Still waiting on Russian smoking gun. They can't get Manafort on Russian collusion so they'll try to get him on corrupt business practices. Not the mandate the special prosecutor was given but that's the way these things go. Investigate false allegations, indict on other crimes to save face.

Don't get me wrong if he's guilty he'll have to face the consequences but to me it just validates the fake Russia narrative.

I do have bias against Obama and his administration. The lying and out right corruption is obvious to anyone not blinded by partisanship.

No Trump was not proven correct. A wiretap of Manafort isn't what he claimed or said in his little temper tantrum.

You don't seem to have the same problem with lying and outright corruption of your beloved leader and those around him.
 
Smoking gun = wiretap. President Trump was proven correct.

Still waiting on Russian smoking gun. They can't get Manafort on Russian collusion so they'll try to get him on corrupt business practices. Not the mandate the special prosecutor was given but that's the way these things go. Investigate false allegations, indict on other crimes to save face.

Don't get me wrong if he's guilty he'll have to face the consequences but to me it just validates the fake Russia narrative.

I do have bias against Obama and his administration. The lying and out right corruption is obvious to anyone not blinded by partisanship.
Can you describe the "smoking gun"? FISA court authorizes tap of Mannafort under both Obama and Trump administrations - is that what you (and DJT) are referring to? Is that "tapping my wires"?
 
What to do, Mueller? What to do? Such dilemmas!

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I have a very strong hunch that there was massive illegal wire tapping at Trump Tower and other places yet to be identified, and furthermore massive illegal unmasking of opponents of the Obama administration in particular, and Democratic Party "enemies" in general. But I think it can all be explained away like this; it was done by rogue IRS agents out of the Cincinnati office.
 
I have a very strong hunch that there was massive illegal wire tapping at Trump Tower and other places yet to be identified, and furthermore massive illegal unmasking of opponents of the Obama administration in particular, and Democratic Party "enemies" in general. But I think it can all be explained away like this; it was done by rogue IRS agents out of the Cincinnati office.

But, but, Clapper said it ain't so; maybe it's time to call Joe Friday:

 
I have a very strong hunch that there was massive illegal wire tapping at Trump Tower and other places yet to be identified, and furthermore massive illegal unmasking of opponents of the Obama administration in particular, and Democratic Party "enemies" in general. But I think it can all be explained away like this; it was done by rogue IRS agents out of the Cincinnati office.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Nothing to see here (plead the Fifth).
 
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Smoking gun = wiretap. President Trump was proven correct.

Still waiting on Russian smoking gun. They can't get Manafort on Russian collusion so they'll try to get him on corrupt business practices. Not the mandate the special prosecutor was given but that's the way these things go. Investigate false allegations, indict on other crimes to save face.

Don't get me wrong if he's guilty he'll have to face the consequences but to me it just validates the fake Russia narrative.

I do have bias against Obama and his administration. The lying and out right corruption is obvious to anyone not blinded by partisanship.

No Trump was not proven correct. A wiretap of Manafort isn't what he claimed or said in his little temper tantrum.

You don't seem to have the same problem with lying and outright corruption of your beloved leader and those around him.
Trump said in his comment that wires in Trump Tower were taped.

Manafort lives in Trump Tower.
 
Trump said in his comment that wires in Trump Tower were taped.

Manafort lives in Trump Tower.

Nope. That is not what he said.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

“Is it legal for a sitting President to be ‘wire tapping’ a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier,”

“I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October,”

“How low has President Obama gone to tapp [sic] my phones during the very sacred election process.”

He didn't say wires were tapped in Trump Tower. He said that his (Trump's) phones/wires were tapped....and that it was done after being turned down by the court.

No smoking gun that Trump's phones were tapped. Manafort phones aren't Trump's phones. Additionally the first wiretap on Manafort ended before he joined the campaign.

Feel free to argue that what he "meant" was something different than what he "said".
 
Since this thread is crediting CNN with providing the "smoking gun" (after repeated "fake news" BS about them).

Maybe we ought to hear from the same media source about your "smoking gun" theory.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/19/politics/trump-wiretapping-manafort/index.html

"It's understandable why Trump supporters -- and those skeptical of the so-called surveillance state -- would seek to conflate the latest reporting about the wire-tapping of Manafort's phones with Trump's still-unproven allegeations that his "lines" were wiretapped in the campaign. But they are just not the same thing."
 
i read, understand and agree with your assertion that this is not the "smoking gun" in trumps allegations he was wire tapped.

but

grasp if you will james clapper comments, subsequent proof he lied, and then lend any sort of credibility to the governments assertion that trump was not wire tapped.

is clapper the kind of witness you want on the stand denying trumps allegations?

Fmr. DNI Clapper: "There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, president-elect, candidate or campaign."
 
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Since this thread is crediting CNN with providing the "smoking gun" (after repeated "fake news" BS about them).

Maybe we ought to hear from the same media source about your "smoking gun" theory.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/19/politics/trump-wiretapping-manafort/index.html

"It's understandable why Trump supporters -- and those skeptical of the so-called surveillance state -- would seek to conflate the latest reporting about the wire-tapping of Manafort's phones with Trump's still-unproven allegeations that his "lines" were wiretapped in the campaign. But they are just not the same thing."

Chris Cillizza doesn't report the news. Every article he writes is essentially an opinion article. This is his personal opinion and nothing more.
 
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i read, understand and agree with your assertion that this is not the "smoking gun" in trumps allegations he was wire tapped.

but

grasp if you will james clapper comments, subsequent proof he lied, and then lend any sort of credibility to the governments assertion that trump was not wire tapped.

is clapper the kind of witness you want on the stand denying trumps allegations?

Fmr. DNI Clapper: "There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, president-elect, candidate or campaign."

I could lawyer Clapper's words if I was so i inclined, but I agree that Clapper isn't the kind of witness I want on the stand. His claim was carefully worded, evasive and misleading at best, out and out false at worst.

The entirety of my comment was directed at the "smoking gun" that Trump was right in his tweetstorm nonsense advanced by Headhunter in this thread. That's it. That's all. You said you read, understand, and agree with that assertion. I'm good with that.
 
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i read, understand and agree with your assertion that this is not the "smoking gun" in trumps allegations he was wire tapped.

but

grasp if you will james clapper comments, subsequent proof he lied, and then lend any sort of credibility to the governments assertion that trump was not wire tapped.

is clapper the kind of witness you want on the stand denying trumps allegations?

Fmr. DNI Clapper: "There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, president-elect, candidate or campaign."
Clapper is a known liar and it shows how desperate the #resistance is that they would want him on their side.
 
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I could lawyer Clapper's words if I was so i inclined, but I agree that Clapper isn't the kind of witness I want on the stand. His claim was carefully worded, evasive and misleading at best, out and out false at worst.

The entirety of my comment was directed at the "smoking gun" that Trump was right in his tweetstorm nonsense advanced by Headhunter in this thread. That's it. That's all. You said you read, understand, and agree with that assertion. I'm good with that.

we haven't got to the proof or evidence layer of the obama admin tapping trump

can one imagine the uproar if the script was flipped?

this clapper deal would be an investigation in and of itself

when you gaslight the "russians" this clapper end of it gets washed out better than borens friday night mixon video newsdump
 
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