Politicizing deaths

[SMemmett]

is there a right way to do it? A wrong way?

How does one group get pissed when people politicize a mass shooting to justify their gun control fantasies? And then the other group gets pissed when an illegal immigrant murders a white girl to politicize and justify their immigration ideas?

To be clear - I don't have a problem with either, events (good or bad) are what shape ideology and politics.

 

[poke2001]

It’s ok for my team to do it but not your team.

I will say this...the left does it with gun control. They argue they want to take away our constitutional right to “save” lives. The right does it with immigration. They argue we should follow the law to “save” lives. I’m going to lean on “my team” is in the right here.

 

[HighStickHarry]

This is an obvious flaw that will never be reconciled.

 

[Bitter Creek]

If an illegal kills someone with a AR, which side cries the loudest?

 

[CowboyJD]

is there a right way to do it? A wrong way?

How does one group get pissed when people politicize a mass shooting to justify their gun control fantasies? And then the other group gets pissed when an illegal immigrant murders a white girl to politicize and justify their immigration ideas?

To be clear - I don't have a problem with either, events (good or bad) are what shape ideology and politics.

I’m with you. Events and human suffering are what shapes and changes politics. Nothing ever happens legislatively or politically until what is happening in the streets becomes of enough concern to the masses to make political changes.

I have no problem with either side politicizing deaths or human suffering....it’s inevitable. I just dislike the hypocrisy of one side doing it while calling out the other side for doing it in different situation.

 

[PDT816]

I've always been of the mind that if you base your opinion/argument off emotional events you're really not worth listening to anyway.

 

[osu_orangestreak]

Here in Florida the parkland parents are in a whole bunch of commercials.

 

[CowboyJD]

I've always been of the mind that if you base your opinion/argument off emotional events you're really not worth listening to anyway.

Yes, but emotional events...especially those that happen repeatedly over time....serve as a catalyst for society to think and consider issue more deeply.

Once the knee jerking is over.

 

[imprimis]

And then the other group gets pissed when an illegal immigrant murders a white girl to politicize and justify their immigration ideas?

Interesting that you limited your statement to a "white girl". I've seen several interviews with parents of children murdered by illegal immigrants and the parents were a smorgasbord of races as were the children murdered. The skin color of the victim wasn't limited to one race but the common trait was the perpetrator was illegally in this country. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

 

[SMemmett]

Interesting that you limited your statement to a "white girl". I've seen several interviews with parents of children murdered by illegal immigrants and the parents were a smorgasbord of races as were the children murdered. The skin color of the victim wasn't limited to one race but the common trait was the perpetrator was illegally in this country. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

Of course non-white people are killed by illegal immigrants, but can you name one that has been politicized on the level of Mollie Tibbets or Kate Steinle? White women are the victims who get people in a frenzy, not men, not women of color.

 

[Bitter Creek]

Yes, but emotional events...especially those that happen repeatedly over time....serve as a catalyst for society to think and consider issue more deeply.

Once the knee jerking is over.

The weird thing is that when it comes to assault rifles, they are used in about as many murders as hands and hand tools, bats and hammers if I remember right.

 

[Pokeabear]

The weird thing is that when it comes to assault rifles, they are used in about as many murders as hands and hand tools, bats and hammers if I remember right.

Was it this one? http://archive.is/txv5N I’d almost guarantee it was as it was a hot article at the time. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/four-times-more-stabbed-than-rifles-any-kind/

 

[PDT816]

Breitbart & Snopes.' Im going to need an article from the National Inquirer to break the tie

 

[Pokeabear]

Breitbart & Snopes.' Im going to need an article from the National Inquirer to break the tie

What about tmz?

 

[windriverrange]

Both sides do this, only the numbers stack up against the illegals.

Can guarantee everyone that if these murders, rapes, armed robberies etc etc were being perpetrated against national political figures wife's, sons, daughters, grandparents and so on there would be an overnight consensus on how to solve the problem. Reminds me of the famous line from Blazing Saddles.....

Then there's congress trying to solve a problem.....

 

[CowboyPhil]

Really the root of the problem is again the MSM. Why was Mollie's missing more important than any others around the country. I can't imagine she's the only person that went missing this summer. But the MSM latched onto it and then asked politicians their opinion. It seems like it's more the MSM politicizing it than the politicians. If the MSM never ask politicians about her it would have less likely been politicized.

Now the Austin Box commercials with his Dad talking about drugs is just wrong in my opinion but it's his son and I guess he can politicize his memory if that's what he wants to do.

 

[Pokeabear]

 

[PDT816]

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This is taking advantage of the poor girl's death for political gain as well.

Call them back, tell them no thanks, and that's the end of it.

 

[windriverrange]

Has Hogg been in Iowa?