Oklahoma State NIL

[OSU_Orlando]

Well...at least we are being somewhat thoughtful even if we are broke.

Jeff from 1 Oklahoma...stop sending me shit. It's in the junk for a reason. Look me up on LinkedIn before reaching out...moron.

 

[Pokewood]

Great on them for being so generous. Says a lot about them and their feelings about OSU. It’s their money. But, they’re being shortsighted. Athletics is the most direct way to impact a huge market for OSU.

I am not sure being reluctant to directly give some of your wealth to Sencer Sanders, Kelly Maxwell, and Lexi Keys is being shortsighted

 

[dnhall]

If our AD doesn’t add a possible NIL fee to season tickets they’re shortsighted. Of course, POSSE donations may be our version of this but any way to get the masses involved like the concerts etal will be needed to keep that war chest funded every year.

I’m glad we have billionaire givers and hope they will get involved in NIL if they aren’t already. But scale works too over the broader fan base and I’m glad events like the concerts are being done to add to the pot.

 

[thetruth]

I am not sure being reluctant to directly give some of your wealth to Sencer Sanders, Kelly Maxwell, and Lexi Keys is being shortsighted

I understand. I’m sure not one to agree with the NIL mess.
But if your fb and mbb are very successful it raises all boats.

 

[Pokewood]

I understand. I’m sure not one to agree with the NIL mess.
But if your fb and mbb are very successful it raises all boats.

That is certainly true and not arguable at all.

 

[bt_ostate]

Great on them for being so generous. Says a lot about them and their feelings about OSU. It’s their money. But, they’re being shortsighted. Athletics is the most direct way to impact a huge market for OSU.

I wouldn't give $ to go to athletes directly either. Rather give people $ who really need it like those who couldn't come to school without it, etc. Not contributing to making these spoiled brats rich.

 

[Deepfork]

If our AD doesn’t add a possible NIL fee to season tickets they’re shortsighted. Of course, POSSE donations may be our version of this but any way to get the masses involved like the concerts etal will be needed to keep that war chest funded every year.

I’m glad we have billionaire givers and hope they will get involved in NIL if they aren’t already. But scale works too over the broader fan base and I’m glad events like the concerts are being done to add to the pot.

If PWP doesn't have booths at games and the concerts they are missing out. Sign up fans to just give $10/month. It adds up!

 

[bt_ostate]

I am not sure being reluctant to directly give some of your wealth to Sencer Sanders, Kelly Maxwell, and Lexi Keys is being shortsighted

Exactly

 

[thetruth]

I wouldn't give $ to go to athletes directly either. Rather give people $ who really need it like those who couldn't come to school without it, etc. Not contributing to making these spoiled brats rich.

As I said, I get it. I dislike NIL with a passion. But in this environment if your money peopl aren’t wanting to play the game (even is smaller donors) we really can’t complain too much about the product. I mean we complain about Gundy not spending money and not playing the game but many don’t want to pay the piper.

 

[dnhall]

As I said, I get it. I dislike NIL with a passion. But in this environment if your money peopl aren’t wanting to play the game (even is smaller donors) we really can’t complain too much about the product. I mean we complain about Gundy not spending money and not playing the game but many don’t want to pay the piper.

Well in all honesty, this place never set high expectations (excellence) in a lot of things since it costs money. We don’t have expectations for excellence or at least set that standard publicly ever! We’ll predictably bitch when it doesn’t happen but we neither demand those expectations or do everything in our power to try to reach that goal. That’s simply who we are as supporters of OSU. That culture is established with the rank and file majority who support OSU.

If it can be done without too much financial consequence to us we’re all on board usually. But this new era of NCAA Athletics challenges us in the wallet and that’s a whole different animal for most Cowboy fans and certainly not our preferred operation.

We all know how this likely ends with our traditional giving and I guess we’ll see how much winning is desired at OSU and at what cost we’re willing to spend if we experience more losses which is more likely than not.

 

[tcpoke]

You have to make a clear pitch with a clear strategy and tactical plan. The investment isn't pure athletic as it historically has been, in the new paradigm that universities have been thrown into, an investment in the Athletic Department has a direct and immediate impact on the broader university system.

For example, if you want to raise $10M to be highly competitive, you need to find one big donor that will be put up 20%. Then you pull together a list of the alumni base that you believe could invest $0.25M-$1.0M/year as your target base. Then you use the anchor investor to help sell the vision and opportunity to rest. This is a tried and true method of clubbing together deals with HNW individuals. You would be amazed the impact a billionaire has on multi-milrinones. They invest all along side for several reasons 1) so that they don't look poor to the peers, 2) to feel like they are a mover and shaker to their network, 3) build some sort of relationship with billionaire (real or perceived) for future business opportunities. Then you try to cobble as many small checks together as possible to support the broader investment, which becomes easier due knowing that their donations are acting as added kerosene on a larger fire rather than just kindling to try to stay warm.

We don't have much more time to get this wrong before we become Kansas except we won't have a basketball program to take pride in.

It is apparent you don’t know Carl and Marilynn.

That isn’t to say what you are outlining above is wrong…it is fundraising/capital raising 101. Literally, the most universally accepted formula.

But if you think that you are going to convince the Thoma’s that funding athletics is worth it and OSU’s (or any institution of learning) well being is directly tied to athletics, then you don’t understand that they may (or have) in turn say then that is not an institution we have any interest in supporting. Again, I have zero problem with that attitude. I’m not interested in criticizing how anyone chooses to utilize their own money.

 

[poke00]

I’ve received emails from Ashton Sheik this week to give to wrestling and softball. Nothing for the other sports. I thought that was strange.

 

[SwordofDamocles]

It is apparent you don’t know Carl and Marilynn.

That isn’t to say what you are outlining above is wrong…it is fundraising/capital raising 101. Literally, the most universally accepted formula.

But if you think that you are going to convince the Thoma’s that funding athletics is worth it and OSU’s (or any institution of learning) well being is directly tied to athletics, then you don’t understand that they may (or have) in turn say then that is not an institution we have any interest in supporting. Again, I have zero problem with that attitude. I’m not interested in criticizing how anyone chooses to utilize their own money.

I am using the Thomas as an example. I don’t mention names initially others did. There are other HNW alums and we need to aggressively target all sources. We seem to have an infinite amount of built in excuses for why we can’t or certain alums won’t give to this or that cause. You either commit to making it happen or just except that we will drift back to below average program of the past.

 

[tcpoke]

I am using the Thomas as an example. I don’t mention names initially others did. There are other HNW alums and we need to aggressively target all sources. We seem to have an infinite amount of built in excuses for why we can’t or certain alums won’t give to this or that cause. You either commit to making it happen or just except that we will drift back to below average program of the past.

I don’t disagree with that.

 

[Pokewood]

I’ve received emails from Ashton Sheik this week to give to wrestling and softball. Nothing for the other sports. I thought that was strange.

I think there is matching money campaign going on for those two sports.

 

[dtspoke]

We have a glass ceiling that needs shattered by someone with vision that can outline a strategic plan to accomplish our goals.

I don’t see it in our current leadership. It takes more than wearing orange and being a cheerleader.

They have to cut dead weight and show donors that the money they give will actually move the needle towards our definition of success.

We need to be the power broker of this anemic conference so we can get in a position to be attractive when the next round of alignments happen.

Anyone that isn’t on board with that attempt can go to the Mountain West.

 

[SquinkY5786]

We have a glass ceiling that needs shattered by someone with vision that can outline a strategic plan to accomplish our goals.

I don’t see it in our current leadership. It takes more than wearing orange and being a cheerleader.

They have to cut dead weight and show donors that the money they give will actually move the needle towards our definition of success.

We need to be the power broker of this anemic conference so we can get in a position to be attractive when the next round of alignments happen.

Anyone that isn’t on board with that attempt can go to the Mountain West.

 

[cbond]

I’ve received emails from Ashton Sheik this week to give to wrestling and softball. Nothing for the other sports. I thought that was strange.

No other sports have anyone willing to match at the moment so not really strange. Someone(s) are tying to help those 2 programs.

 

[poke00]

No other sports have anyone willing to match at the moment so not really strange. Someone(s) are tying to help those 2 programs.

Strange as no one is emailing to even help those other programs. Matching or not would think it would be an email to say hey what program would you be willing to help. Basketball sure needs it.

 

[kruxter]

Strange as no one is emailing to even help those other programs. Matching or not would think it would be an email to say hey what program would you be willing to help. Basketball sure needs it.

What do you think about Baseball? I never hear anything about them.

 

[cbond]

Strange as no one is emailing to even help those other programs. Matching or not would think it would be an email to say hey what program would you be willing to help. Basketball sure needs it.

Pokes with a Purpose is constantly reaching out to people to donate. These are 2 specific campaigns that have donors willing to match up to $100K between now and 1/1/25. It's called a campaign to raise funds. Other sports need to find people willing to step up and do the same.

 

[poke00]

Pokes with a Purpose is constantly reaching out to people to donate. These are 2 specific campaigns that have donors willing to match up to $100K between now and 1/1/25. It's called a campaign to raise funds. Other sports need to find people willing to step up and do the same.

First time I’ve ever been contacted and appears several on here never have been. I reached out to Scott Albertson last year for the OL campaign. I reached out to CWC too for wrestling.

 

[poke00]

What do you think about Baseball? I never hear anything about them.

All sports. I mentioned basketball since Lutz is new. OSU should be trying to get money for all programs. I get a of mailing from the department I graduated from but that is it.

 

[Pokewood]

What do you think about Baseball? I never hear anything about them.

Last Spring Josh was trying to raise $150k and he needed it in a hurry. It is my understanding TH helped him raise it. I have not visited with him lately so no current info.