oe Biden Tallies 110 Days With Approval Index Under -24, Far Surpassing Obama, Trump

[OKSTATE1]

And yes, we may not agree on much. But why does that mean we shouldn't discuss political issues? Do you feel threatened by hearing another viewpoint?

Not threatened, I just know when it is a waste of time to debate a position I will never agree with. One is immigration, never, ever, get me to agree what this administration is doing is right. NEVER.

And did I not tell you that I opposed the law in Washington state?

You fail to see why it is important to support the law in Florida to prevent crap like this. You don't care about controlling the extremism in your party. You called the law in Florida a dog whistle, by proxy you are allowing crap like what is happening in Washington state to happen. Why is it you never posted this information on Washington state if you are so up on sexual and gender issues as you proclaim to be? Why did I have to bring it to the Board? Because it flies in the face of you want in Florida. You could give 2 shits, don't lie.


And again, I have no problem admitting to Biden's failings, his real failings.


What are they?

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

OMG, Sanders and Warren? You are a hardcore commie. That is why they ran Joe, they knew Bernie and Warren were so far left they would never be elected. And Harris was the first one out in the primaries. Joe not far left enough for you.

Of course, you had some really BAD options, and you have to shine all those turds in to gold to be able to hold your nose and vote for them.

This all starting to make real sense in trying to understand you. Full on wokester. Off the charts leftist.

Which means zero reason to even exchange posts with you.

Socialism is the rest stop on the road to communism. I recommend The Communist Manifesto, 1910 English version by Marx and Engels.

I recommend American Marxism by Mark Levin. Many "progressives" have no idea they are Marxists.

Bernie Sanders' economic policies are on full display in Venezuela. Bernie knows socialism has never worked but believes he's the one anointed to make it work.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Did I understand Bongino right? The NY Times is turning on Brandon. The Times is admitting Hunter's lap top exposes the Biden Crime Family. 17% of Independents would change their vote if MSM hadn't hidden Hunter's lap top details.

Chapter 5, The Revenge of Fake News in Rigged by Mollie Hemingway is good additional reading.

 

[my_2cents]

Not threatened, I just know when it is a waste of time to debate a position I will never agree with. One is immigration, never, ever, get me to agree what this administration is doing is right. NEVER.

The reason to discuss is so you can try to understand the opposing viewpoint and contrast it with your own. Also, you may realize some common ground can be achieved.

You fail to see why it is important to support the law in Florida to prevent crap like this.

Because I don't support the law in Florida. Just because there is a bad law in one state doesn't mean we should embrace a bad law in another state as a response. You can oppose both laws.

The law in Florida is creating a problem that doesn't exist. It is an attack on public schools educators and LGBTQ students. There is no need for it.

You don't care about controlling the extremism in your party.

Are you doing anything to control the extremism in your party? You made the argument that parents shouldn't be allowed to seek out gender-affirming medical care for their children. You want to attack the right of parents to make medical decisions for their children as well. That is just as extreme as what they did in Washington. Both are extreme positions. And I oppose both.

Why can't you just agree that parents should have the right of consent and be allowed to seek out gender-affirming medical care for their children if they so choose?

You called the law in Florida a dog whistle, by proxy you are allowing crap like what is happening in Washington state to happen. Why is it you never posted this information on Washington state if you are so up on sexual and gender issues as you proclaim to be? Why did I have to bring it to the Board? because it flies in the face of you want in Florida. You could give 2 shits, don't lie.

The law in Florida is a dog whistle. No doubt about that. I live in Florida, I know what is going on in this state.

And I'm not lying. I don't support the Washington state law. If I lived in Washington, I would be opposing it. And I would oppose such a measure in Florida.

What are they?

Biden's past willingness to go along with the aims and goals of neo-conservatives as it relates to foreign policy. His willingness to give too much away sometimes when compromising (not saying compromise is bad, just that Biden sometimes goes too far and ends up undermining legislation). His inability at times to recognize what is happening and how Americans are thinking outside the D.C. bubble. His temper. His tendency to be gaffe-prone and tendency to ramble.

Those are just a few that immediately came to mind.

 

[my_2cents]

I recommend American Marxism by Mark Levin.

Chapter 5, The Revenge of Fake News in Rigged by Mollie Hemingway is good additional reading.

No one is interested in your right-wing propaganda except you and other right-wingers who are easy pawns. We get that you love this junk. You cut and paste it over and over and over again lol.

Mark Levin.🤣🤣

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

No one is interested in your right-wing propaganda except you and other right-wingers who are easy pawns. We get that you love this junk. You cut and paste it over and over and over again lol.

Mark Levin.🤣🤣

Thank you for your regular reminders. As the board well knows, I have a series of questions to measure IQ.....

 

[my_2cents]

Thank you for your regular reminders. As the board well knows, I have a series of questions to measure IQ.....

Cut and paste. Cut and paste.🤣

Your shtick is a bore. Get some new material.

 

[OKSTATE1]

The reason to discuss is so you can try to understand the opposing viewpoint and contrast it with your own. Also, you may realize some common ground can be achieved.


Because I don't support the law in Florida. Just because there is a bad law in one state doesn't mean we should embrace a bad law in another state as a response. You can oppose both laws.

The law in Florida is creating a problem that doesn't exist. It is an attack on public schools educators and LGBTQ students. There is no need for it.


Are you doing anything to control the extremism in your party? You made the argument that parents shouldn't be allowed to seek out gender-affirming medical care for their children. You want to attack the right of parents to make medical decisions for their children as well. That is just as extreme as what they did in Washington. Both are extreme positions. And I oppose both.

Why can't you just agree that parents should have the right of consent and be allowed to seek out gender-affirming medical care for their children if they so choose?


The law in Florida is a dog whistle. No doubt about that. I live in Florida, I know what is going on in this state.

And I'm not lying. I don't support the Washington state law. If I lived in Washington, I would be opposing it. And I would oppose such a measure in Florida.


Biden's past willingness to go along with the aims and goals of neo-conservatives as it relates to foreign policy. His willingness to give too much away sometimes when compromising (not saying compromise is bad, just that Biden sometimes goes too far and ends up undermining legislation). His inability at times to recognize what is happening and how Americans are thinking outside the D.C. bubble. His temper. His tendency to be gaffe-prone and tendency to ramble.

Those are just a few that immediately came to mind.

I have not achieved common ground with you, you fail to see the lack of consistency in your position between Florida and Washington, you could demonstrate the need for a line in the sand, it has to start somewhere. You continue to argue a point on this that is a falsehood as well. IF I lived in Washington, what a joke. Leftists start laws on the west coast and push them east. Florida and the rest of the country knows this, you do as well. So since you don't live in the states that borders Mexico, you should be ok with all the states that border Mexico that want to build a wall and enforce immigration laws should and can do so because you don't live there? Right? You don't live there, bet you have never spoken out on immigration and the need for open borders. If you want them closed, turn an eye and vote for candidates that keeps the flood gates wide open. Bet you love some wide open borders and since they are not running across your ranch land infected with COVID, smuggling dope and kids, everything is ok? Bet when COVID came out and Trump stopped planes from China, you called it racist, just like Pelosi.

I have said from day 1 all rioters should be jailed, from both political sides. Extremism? I would love to start seeing our current laws enforced, period. The summer of BLM led to January 6th, predicted the public saw the summer of BLM and riots "legalized" and even cheered on by media that it was only a matter time it hit DC and that is when someone would care. Were you denouncing all the burn, loot , and murder that was happening in this country? Did you want them all rounded up and thrown in jail? Did you denounce the BLM riots that killed people and destroyed businesses? Or like David Allen did you say, just a few cracked eggs to move us forward? No big deal. Kyle Rittenhouse - Bet you convicted him. As well as Nicholas Sandmann. Bet you ate that shit up. Jussie Smollett, bet you bought that hook, line, and sinker, because all you "right wingers" are raycist. So much racism in this country, Dims have to put forward false flags to keep their narrative going. You vote for a more divided country, with meaningless laws.

As for Biden's issues, how do you explain it, particularly the gaffe prone slurring of words, forgetting, rambling, getting mad, and not taking questions, WAY fewer questions than Trump? Saying I was told not to take questions, or was told to ask a question of these 2 reporters only? We knew why Trump acted as he did, his ego. There is a reason Biden behaves as he does, he is old as hell and he is in the early stages of dementia. So, you still can not face reality.

 

[my_2cents]

I have not achieved common ground with you, you fail to see the lack of consistency in your position between Florida and Washington, you could demonstrate the need for a line in the sand, it has to start somewhere. You continue to argue a point on this that is a falsehood as well. IF I lived in Washington, what a joke.

I've told you numerous times that I don't support the Washington state law. How many times do I have to tell you this? Again, I don't support the law in Washington state, nor would I support such an attempt to create a similar law in Florida.

I am also not being inconsistent on this. The Florida law is creating a problem that doesn't exist and is an attack on public educators and LGBTQ students from right-wingers. It is a bad law, just like the Washington law is (and what the Texas Governor is trying to do). You seem to think it is acceptable to support one bad law to send a message to another state that also passed a bad law. That is foolishness. One can oppose both the Washington law and the Florida law. And one should.

btw, it is you who are showing a lack of consistency here. You complain about what Washington did (removing a parent's right to consent) but then you turn around and want to strip parents of their right to seek gender-affirming medical care for their children. You are doing exactly what those in Washington are doing, just from a different perspective. You are seeking to take away parent's medical rights over their children. You are doing what you complain about Washington doing! Hypocrisy.

Were you denouncing all the burn, loot , and murder that was happening in this country?

Yes. I don't support anyone who engages in these actions. I support peaceful protest.

I also, though, understand the frustration and anger that exists in certain communities that feel as if their voices aren't being heard. Does this justify violence? No. But we need to be listening to their concerns. Do you care to listen to them? Or do you just dismiss what they have to say about their experiences?

So much racism in this country,

Unfortunately, there is a lot of racism in this country. Denying that racism exists in this country is just denying reality.

As for Biden's issues, how do you explain it, particularly the gaffe prone slurring of words, forgetting, rambling, getting mad, and not taking questions, WAY fewer questions than Trump? Saying I was told not to take questions, or was told to ask a question of these 2 reporters only? We knew why Trump acted as he did, his ego. There is a reason Biden behaves as he does, he is old as hell and he is in the early stages of dementia. So, you still can not face reality.

Biden has always been known as graffe-prone and having a tendency to ramble. This is nothing new for him. He has done this throughout his political career. And how do I explain something he has done his entire political career? Some people are just like that, especially politicians who frequently go off script as Biden (and Trump) did. You just wrote a post that was filled with a lot of rambling. Are you in the early stages of dementia?🤣

As for slurring of words, Biden has dealt with a very bad stuttering problem since childhood. He faced a lot of mockery for it as a child, including even from a teacher (as he still does from his political opponents such as yourself). He still struggles with his stutter and sometimes he overcompensates, which is common for someone with a stuttering problem. Again, this has nothing to do with dementia. If you cared to take time to read about how Biden has dealt with his stuttering problem his entire life, you would know this.

As for Trump, come on man. Trump made gaffes and rambled when he went off script all the time. Those around him were always telling him to stay on script and read the prepared remarks. Did Trump have dementia?

Lastly, a President and his staff seeking to control a press conference isn't anything new. It is actually smart.

The foolish idea (and right-wing talking point) that Biden has dementia or is medically mentally challenged is just foolishness. It isn't reality.

 

[Alpha Woke]

I've told you numerous times that I don't support the Washington state law. How many times do I have to tell you this? Again, I don't support the law in Washington state, nor would I support such an attempt to create a similar law in Florida.

I am also not being inconsistent on this. The Florida law is creating a problem that doesn't exist and is an attack on public educators and LGBTQ students from right-wingers. It is a bad law, just like the Washington law is (and what the Texas Governor is trying to do). You seem to think it is acceptable to support one bad law to send a message to another state that also passed a bad law. That is foolishness. One can oppose both the Washington law and the Florida law. And one should.

btw, it is you who are showing a lack of consistency here. You complain about what Washington did (removing a parent's right to consent) but then you turn around and want to strip parents of their right to seek gender-affirming medical care for their children. You are doing exactly what those in Washington are doing, just from a different perspective. You are seeking to take away parent's medical rights over their children. You are doing what you complain about Washington doing! Hypocrisy.


Yes. I don't support anyone who engages in these actions. I support peaceful protest.

I also, though, understand the frustration and anger that exists in certain communities that feel as if their voices aren't being heard. Does this justify violence? No. But we need to be listening to their concerns. Do you care to listen to them? Or do you just dismiss what they have to say about their experiences?


Unfortunately, there is a lot of racism in this country. Denying that racism exists in this country is just denying reality.


Biden has always been known as graffe-prone and having a tendency to ramble. This is nothing new for him. He has done this throughout his political career. And how do I explain something he has done his entire political career? Some people are just like that, especially politicians who frequently go off script as Biden (and Trump) did. You just wrote a post that was filled with a lot of rambling. Are you in the early stages of dementia?🤣

As for slurring of words, Biden has dealt with a very bad stuttering problem since childhood. He faced a lot of mockery for it as a child, including even from a teacher (as he still does from his political opponents such as yourself). He still struggles with his stutter and sometimes he overcompensates, which is common for someone with a stuttering problem. Again, this has nothing to do with dementia. If you cared to take time to read about how Biden has dealt with his stuttering problem his entire life, you would know this.

As for Trump, come on man. Trump made gaffes and rambled when he went off script all the time. Those around him were always telling him to stay on script and read the prepared remarks. Did Trump have dementia?

Lastly, a President and his staff seeking to control a press conference isn't anything new. It is actually smart.

The foolish idea (and right-wing talking point) that Biden has dementia or is medically mentally challenged is just foolishness. It isn't reality.

Bless your little retarded heart.

 

[OKSTATE1]

I've told you numerous times that I don't support the Washington state law. How many times do I have to tell you this? Again, I don't support the law in Washington state, nor would I support such an attempt to create a similar law in Florida.

I am also not being inconsistent on this. The Florida law is creating a problem that doesn't exist and is an attack on public educators and LGBTQ students from right-wingers. It is a bad law, just like the Washington law is (and what the Texas Governor is trying to do). You seem to think it is acceptable to support one bad law to send a message to another state that also passed a bad law. That is foolishness. One can oppose both the Washington law and the Florida law. And one should.

btw, it is you who are showing a lack of consistency here. You complain about what Washington did (removing a parent's right to consent) but then you turn around and want to strip parents of their right to seek gender-affirming medical care for their children. You are doing exactly what those in Washington are doing, just from a different perspective. You are seeking to take away parent's medical rights over their children. You are doing what you complain about Washington doing! Hypocrisy.


Yes. I don't support anyone who engages in these actions. I support peaceful protest.

I also, though, understand the frustration and anger that exists in certain communities that feel as if their voices aren't being heard. Does this justify violence? No. But we need to be listening to their concerns. Do you care to listen to them? Or do you just dismiss what they have to say about their experiences?


Unfortunately, there is a lot of racism in this country. Denying that racism exists in this country is just denying reality.


Biden has always been known as graffe-prone and having a tendency to ramble. This is nothing new for him. He has done this throughout his political career. And how do I explain something he has done his entire political career? Some people are just like that, especially politicians who frequently go off script as Biden (and Trump) did. You just wrote a post that was filled with a lot of rambling. Are you in the early stages of dementia?🤣

As for slurring of words, Biden has dealt with a very bad stuttering problem since childhood. He faced a lot of mockery for it as a child, including even from a teacher (as he still does from his political opponents such as yourself). He still struggles with his stutter and sometimes he overcompensates, which is common for someone with a stuttering problem. Again, this has nothing to do with dementia. If you cared to take time to read about how Biden has dealt with his stuttering problem his entire life, you would know this.

As for Trump, come on man. Trump made gaffes and rambled when he went off script all the time. Those around him were always telling him to stay on script and read the prepared remarks. Did Trump have dementia?

Lastly, a President and his staff seeking to control a press conference isn't anything new. It is actually smart.

The foolish idea (and right-wing talking point) that Biden has dementia or is medically mentally challenged is just foolishness. It isn't reality.

Sorry, you are not serious about any of the concerns of parents in regards to sex and gender education in schools and the implications of that long term. And you want to discuss hypocrisy? This is the problem, extreme left is so left, we need laws to protect common sense.

My position on transgender / parent issues is real clear and has been explained completely previously. I am all for parents seeking whatever education, counseling, and therapy (anti-depressants as an example) they want outside of the public school system. That is supporting those parents no matter how much you want to be in denial. No mater what you say that is support of those parents. Just like parents can do with their children what they want on religion. I am not taking that out of parents hands. I personally would support a law based on the psychological study I posted earlier and because of the life long impacts, that would only allow transgender surgeries once a child becomes a legal adult that can legally consent. All of this spelled out previously.


Now, if I was a Senator or as a voting citizen, I would trade to allow parents to butcher and provide chemicals (hormones) for an elective surgery for their kids before the legal consent age of 18, as long as sex and gender education was completely removed from all public school education systems thru high school. You do what you want to your kids physically and mentally, and you don't get to do a damn thing to mine mentally. Coolio. If you believe you can compromise, you would take that compromise immediately, especially if you think if it is not being taught. Otherwise, you have a HUGE hidden agenda. If you insist on having any possibility of teaching my kids about sex and gender, than I believe I have a right to enforce on you my parental belief transgender surgery and hormone replacement can only happen at age 18 because teachers who are not professional therapists could be really confusing kids at a very young age, especially mine.

You ignore riots and go to supporting peaceful protests, you act like the riots did not happen and you immediately talk about listening to their concerns. You can't even type riot. I don't listen to anybody that intentionally kills people, destroys lives, and destroys the ability for people to make a livelihood. The most notable racism I have seen in this country of late is the laws that were overturned prioritizing COVID medical treatment for AA's over whites. All Dim passed and promoted for "equality". Sounds like Rachel Maddow. This country does not have a serious racism problem, sorry but it does not. To the point Dims have to create and make up the narrative. The Dems are BLM and the summer of burn, loot, and murder. You get to own that, sorry you do. Maxine Waters crossed state lines and told people they needed to basically get more violent. Did Dems say anything? No. It was a crime what she did, far more inciting of a riot than anything Trump ever said. That is who your ilk votes for.

You will go to your grave insisting Brandon is just fine, good for you.

 

[my_2cents]

Sorry, you are not serious about any of the concerns of parents in regards to sex and gender education in schools and the implications of that long term.

I am willing to consider any concerns parents bring forward about real problems related to sex and gender education. Real problems, not created problems.

I am not willing though to accept bigotry and discrimination in our public educational system.

I personally would support a law based on the psychological study I posted earlier and because of the life long impacts, that would only allow transgender surgeries once a child becomes a legal adult that can legally consent. All of this spelled out previously.

Yes, you have been very clear about you position on this. You want to forbid parents from having the right to choose gender-affirming medical care for their children.

You are doing exactly what you complain about Washington state doing. Attacking the rights of parents. Hypocrisy.

Now, if I was a Senator or as a voting citizen, I would trade to allow parents to butcher and put chemicals in an elective surgery for their kids before the legal consent age of 18, as long as sex and gender education was completely removed from all public school education systems thru high school. You do what you want to your kids physically and mentally, and you don't get to do a damn thing to mine mentally. Coolio. If you believe you can compromise, you would take that compromise immediately, especially if you think if it is not being taught.

What do you mean by "sex and gender education completely removed from all public school education systems through high school."

Does this mean no reference whatsoever to homosexuality and transgender issues in higher level courses (including in the study of history)? Does this mean that teachers can't provide a supportive environment for LGBTQ students? Does this mean that students will be forbidden from referencing their LGBTQ identity (or family identity) in educational assignments or discussions?

You ignore riots and go to supporting peaceful protests, you act like the riots did not happen and you immediately talk about listening to their concerns.

I do not ignore riots or acts of violence. I condemn them. But yes, I believe those communities who feel that their voices aren't being heard need to be listened to. Their concerns need to be taken serious and an outlet for them to express their anger and frustration need to be provided so violence isn't resorted to. We also need to address their convenience.

I'm sorry if you can't understand the importance of listening to these communities.

"And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? ... It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

This country does not have a serious racism problem, sorry but it does not.

Racism still exists in this country. If you doubt this, you aren't paying attention or talking to those who experience it on a daily basis.

 

[OKSTATE1]

I am willing to consider any concerns parents bring forward about real problems related to sex and gender education. Real problems, not created problems.

I am not willing though to accept bigotry and discrimination in our public educational system.


Yes, you have been very clear about you position on this. You want to forbid parents from having the right to choose gender-affirming medical care for their children.

You are doing exactly what you complain about Washington state doing. Attacking the rights of parents. Hypocrisy.


What do you mean by "sex and gender education completely removed from all public school education systems through high school."

Does this mean no reference whatsoever to homosexuality and transgender issues in higher level courses (including in the study of history)? Does this mean that teachers can't provide a supportive environment for LGBTQ students? Does this mean that students will be forbidden from referencing their LGBTQ identity (or family identity) in educational assignments or discussions?


I do not ignore riots or acts of violence. I condemn them. But yes, I believe those communities who feel that their voices aren't being heard need to be listened to. Their concerns need to be taken serious and an outlet for them to express their anger and frustration need to be provided so violence isn't resorted to. We also need to address their convenience.

I'm sorry if you can't understand the importance of listening to these communities.

"And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? ... It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.


Racism still exists in this country. If you doubt this, you aren't paying attention or talking to those who experience it on a daily basis.

Yup, you are left of Bernie Sanders and possibly Maddow.

 

[my_2cents]

Yup, you are left of Bernie Sanders and possibly Maddow.

Was Dr. Martin Luther King, who I quoted, left of Sanders and Maddow too? Think he was a communist?

But please, answer the questions I asked of you regarding your proposal. I want to see if we can arrive at some common ground on that issue.

What do you mean by "sex and gender education completely removed from all public school education systems through high school." Does your proposal mean no reference whatsoever to homosexuality and transgender issues in higher level courses (including in the study of history)? Does this mean that teachers can't provide a supportive environment for LGBTQ students? Does this mean that students will be forbidden from referencing their LGBTQ identity (or family identity) in educational assignments or discussions?

 

[Scottsdale.Sooner]

my_2cents

I am curious. Serious question. What part of Sanders drew you to support his nomination? What policies or platforms of his were high on your list? Same for Warren? Why anyone would stand behind Warren is beyond my comprehension.

I am aware of my staunch conservative positions. I willingly except the "right-wing" label. I attribute my position(s) to my military service and subsequent extensive travels and experiences. As can probably guess, I felt compassion for Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men.

 

[my_2cents]

my_2cents

I am curious. Serious question. What part of Sanders drew you to support his nomination? What policies or platforms of his were high on your list?

For the most part, every part of his platform and policy positions that I can think of. I do sometimes have disagreements with him on some issues though, such as foreign policy, but they tend to be minor.

In terms of policies that were and remain high on my list, they are: universal healthcare, his plans to fight income and wealth inequality, tuition free post-secondery education, his strong commitment to environmental issues (including transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel), and his foreign policy commitments.

my_2cents

Same for Warren?

Warren was just a softer version of Sanders. If the nominee wasn't going to be Sanders, I would have preferred Warren over a Democrat like Biden because of the issues I've already mentioned.

 

[OKSTATE1]

Was Dr. Martin Luther King, who I quoted, left of Sanders and Maddow too? Think he was a communist?

But please, answer the questions I asked of you regarding your proposal. I want to see if we can arrive at some common ground on that issue.

What do you mean by "sex and gender education completely removed from all public school education systems through high school."
Does your proposal mean no reference whatsoever to homosexuality and transgender issues in higher level courses (including in the study of history)? Does this mean that teachers can't provide a supportive environment for LGBTQ students? Does this mean that students will be forbidden from referencing their LGBTQ identity (or family identity) in educational assignments or discussions?

I was pretty clear on last my post.

You have to hide behind Dr. King for justification of riots? That is like the religious right using Jesus in making the LGBTQ community a bunch of evil sinners. You dodge by trying to take the higher ground with Dr. King? Dodge what Maxine was preaching? We are suppose to listen to people criminally rioting? Let me speak very clearly: Never going to happen, and it is wrong, and hiding behind MLK is pathetic. Did you listen to the peaceful protests of January 6th you moron? Do you not try to understand as well? You deflect constantly.

Higher level courses? Like history? Or social studies? What a joke, we can't teach them to score high on math, reading, etc.. All that crap is for college sonny. Just like religion I don't want teachers, teaching anything but 2 scientific genders. We don't teach higher level Christianity classes in public schools, sex and gender issues is as personal to a family and their child as religion. Many on the left don't believe in religion, so they don't care and don't see the imbalance. Neither belong in schools up thru the HS level, parents can teach it outside of school like religion, and kids can go elect and get it in college, like religion.

Kids will be addressed based on how their parents enroll them in school or document how they want them to be addressed . Take my compromise or leave it, teachers have zero business parenting a child on religious or sex/gender issues, none.

We will never agree, and I am fine with that.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Racism is not near the problem the left claims. Baseless racist charges is M. O. for the left. Who was it taught me I'm 1/4 token and "white boy?" It was not OKSTATE1.

It was Brandon who informed me I ain't black and many of my kind don't know how to use the internet.

 

[my_2cents]

You have to hide behind Dr. King for justification of riots?

I am not hiding behind MLK, I simply gave a quote of his that related to what I was discussing.

I'm not, nor was MLK, justifying riots. I've told you twice now that I oppose riots and acts of violence. Why do you have a hard time accepting my position at face value without trying to twist it into something you can argue against?

Did you listen to the peaceful protests of January 6th you moron? Do you not try to understand as well?

Yes, I and this whole nation listened to Trump supporters for four years. We listened to Trump for months push the big lie about the 2020 election and we listened to his supporters repeat that nonsense.

Everyone knows why the January 6 insurrection happened.

Higher level courses? Like history? Or social studies? What a joke, we can't teach them to score high on math, reading, etc.. All that crap is for college sonny.

What are you talking about? History and social studies are taught in high school. Are you now claiming history and social studies shouldn't be taught in high school?

btw, world religion classes are taught and studied in some high schools too. Yes, no one religion is promoted over another in public schools. But people of all religions are welcomed and not discriminated against.

Kids will be addressed based on how their parents enroll them in school or document how they want to be addressed .

So if parents request that their student be addressed by a gender-affirming name, you are fine with that? Also, can teachers provide a supportive environment for LGBTQ students or do you oppose that? Do you want to forbid students from referencing their LGBTQ identity (or family identity) in educational assignments or discussions?

Once you clarify these positions in relation to your compromise, I will be able to let you know if I can accept it. Also, if you want to ban history and social studies classes and leave that just to college, I definitely would oppose that.

 

[OKSTATE1]

I am not hiding behind MLK, I simply gave a quote of his that related to what I was discussing.

I'm not, nor was MLK, justifying riots. I've told you twice now that I oppose riots and acts of violence. Why do you have a hard time accepting my position at face value without trying to twist it into something you can argue against?


Yes, I and this whole nation listened to Trump supporters for four years. We listened to Trump for months push the big lie about the 2020 election and we listened to his supporters repeat that nonsense.

Everyone knows why the January 6 insurrection happened.


What are you talking about? History and social studies iare taught in high school. Are you now claiming history and social studies shouldn't be taught in high school?

btw, world religion classes are taught and studied in some high schools too. Yes, no one religion is promoted over another in public schools. But people of all religions are welcomed and not discriminated against.


So if parents request that their student be addressed by a gender-affirming name, you are fine with that? Also, can teachers provide a supportive environment for LGBTQ students or do you oppose that? Do you want to forbid students from referencing their LGBTQ identity (or family identity) in educational assignments or discussions?

Once you clarify these positions in relation to your compromise, I will be able to let you know if I can accept it. Also, if you want to ban history and social studies classes and leave that just to college, I definitely would oppose that.

I don’t care if you accept my compromise. History and social studies can be taught without sex and gender education. My offer is final. I will vote accordingly. I am sure you will as well.

 

[my_2cents]

Racism is not near the problem the left claims. Baseless racist charges is M. O. for the left. Who was it taught me I'm 1/4 token and "white boy?" It was not OKSTATE1.

It was Brandon who informed me I ain't black and many of my kind don't know how to use the internet.

Your opinion and experience is not shared by all nor is it representative of all.

If this is your experience, great. But others have experiences that are different from yours and their voice matters just as much as yours does.

 

[Medic007]

I don’t care if you accept my compromise. History and social studies can be taught without sex and gender education. My offer is final. I will vote accordingly. I am sure you will as well.

It is hilarious watching dolts like him freak out over stuff they claim isn't happening.

 

[my_2cents]

I don’t care if you accept my compromise. My offer is final.

Well if that is the case, and you have no desire to explain what you want to actually forbid and allow (while implying you want to ban history and social studies classes in high school), then I can't accept your compromise at this point.

How about this compromise. Can we agree that parents should have to give their consent for a minor child to receive gender-affirming medical care and parents should have the right to choose such medical care for their children? Leave the medical care decisions for minors in the hands of their parents. I can agree to this. Can you?

 

[OKSTATE1]

Well if that is the case, and you have no desire to explain what you want to actually forbid and allow (while implying you want to ban history and social studies classes in high school), then I can't accept your compromise at this point.

How about this compromise. Can we agree that parents should have to give their consent for a minor child to receive gender-affirming medical care and parents should have the right to choose such medical care for their children? Leave the medical care decisions for minors in the hands of their parents. I can agree to this. Can you?

You need to read again my position for the 100th time. You are trolling now and you are boring me. Bye.

 

[my_2cents]

You need to read again my position for the 100th time. You are trolling now and you are boring me. Bye.

I have read your position many times, that is why I was seeking a compromise. And your answer is no. You want the government to intervene to take away the rights of parents to choose gender-affirming medical care for their children.

Your whole claimed commitment to protecting parent rights is a sham. What you really want is for the government to push your anti-LGBTQ agenda on all Americans. That has now been shown conclusively.

 

[OKSTATE1]

I have read your position many times, that is why I was seeking a compromise. And your answer is no. You want the government to intervene to take away the rights of parents to choose gender-affirming medical care for their children.

Your whole claimed commitment to protecting parent rights is a sham. What you really want is for the government to push your anti-LGBTQ agenda on all Americans. That has now been shown conclusively.

Your goal is to disagree for so long you get the last word in just so you can make that last statement. Just grind them down with a circular loop. It has only been made conclusive by the same guy that would if Joe was his dad would not get him to the Doctor to get checked out and some help. Dad is perfectly fine, it is conclusive in your brain. 😂

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

 

[my_2cents]

Your goal is to disagree for so long you get the last word in just so you can make that last statement. Just grind them down with a circular loop. It has only been made conclusive by the same guy that would if Joe was his dad would not get him to the Doctor to get checked out and some help. Dad is perfectly fine, it is conclusive in your brain. 😂

I thought you said bye?

Again, I support the rights of parents to make gender-affirming medical decisions for their minor children. You don't and want this right to be taken away from them while at the same time complaining about the Washington state law, which I also oppose. Hypocrisy on your part.

You have stated your position very well. If I have it wrong, explain how I have it wrong. You can't do that though, so you come back with a rambling pointless post. Do you have dementia?🤣🤣

 

[Medic007]

Yep.

 

[Medic007]

Your goal is to disagree for so long you get the last word in just so you can make that last statement. Just grind them down with a circular loop. It has only been made conclusive by the same guy that would if Joe was his dad would not get him to the Doctor to get checked out and some help. Dad is perfectly fine, it is conclusive in your brain. 😂

Whoopsie...

Polls show Americans support FL education bill after ABC News poll declares unpopular when omitting key detail

Polls show Americans support FL education bill after ABC News poll declares unpopular when omitting key detail

Liberals have repeatedly attacked the GOP-backed reform effort, calling it the 'Don't Say Gay' bill.

www.foxnews.com

 

[OUSOONER67]

Only thing 2pesos doesn't like about Bernie is that he hasn't been to Prison like his Socialist Hero Lil Debs. Bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha! Lil Debs would be ashamed of Bernie and lil 2pesos as well.