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If your water wasn’t good you wouldn’t go back to that well.

You should treat your news the same, but you and every lib here is still tapping the same poisoned well.
We will find out who the major population of america trusts in nov wont we
 
If your water wasn’t good you wouldn’t go back to that well.

You should treat your news the same, but you and every lib here is still tapping the same poisoned well.
We will find out who the major population of america trusts in
 
If your water wasn’t good you wouldn’t go back to that well.

You should treat your news the same, but you and every lib here is still tapping the same poisoned well.

@aliabedi is different than the libs here. He's not an American and his mullah tells him to come here and troll.
 
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We will find out who the major population of america trusts in

No, this will be the most outside influenced election in our history.

The Libs are gonna win. Biden will get 500,000,000 votes of the possible ~300,000,000.

China will be giggling.
 
No, this will be the most outside influenced election in our history.

The Libs are gonna win. Biden will get 500,000,000 votes of the possible ~300,000,000.

China will be giggling.
3 months ago one of the local newspaper said that talibans are getting money from russia to kill american soldiers.I totally ignored it now we find out Trumps best friend Putin is playing games with your soldiers.Some of the american politicians are asking what does russia have over Trump.They will not be smiling if Trump goes.
 
I am not outraged.Pick up your newspaper same kind of story would be there every week.One crazy guy does something and you blame the entire country.
But one crazy man is leading your country and all of you are behind him.
 
3 months ago one of the local newspaper said that talibans are getting money from russia to kill american soldiers.I totally ignored it now we find out Trumps best friend Putin is playing games with your soldiers.Some of the american politicians are asking what does russia have over Trump.They will not be smiling if Trump goes.

That’s funny.

Did you know Iran was paying Taliban soldiers a bounty with money they got from Obama.

How about Obama arming and training ISIS? How’s that worked out?

It’s odd to watch how effective our intelligence agencies are at twisting thee people of the world.

We destroy your country as a diversion to impose more social control at home and have convinced the pawns (you) that the people that used you are the good guys.

Stockholm much?
 
That’s funny.

Did you know Iran was paying Taliban soldiers a bounty with money they got from Obama.

How about Obama arming and training ISIS? How’s that worked out?

It’s odd to watch how effective our intelligence agencies are at twisting thee people of the world.

We destroy your country as a diversion to impose more social control at home and have convinced the pawns (you) that the people that used you are the good guys.

Stockholm much?
This is silly.Iran is shia and talibans are sunnis of wahabi strain.There is no way a shia country would pay sunnis to commit terrorism.
More over in the war with ISIS irani militia fought with the iraqi army against ISIS.
read your old newspapers and you would find it.
 
NBC was the only channel that this story was reported in. Now the world knows it was Russia.So what do you say about that.

Dude if that happened I’ll add it to my Borg of information and change course. Link?

Still means Obama is mysteriously absolved of something Trump is accused of.

How am I supposed to take you or anyone seriously that doesn’t use the same standards to judge everyone?
 
Dude if that happened I’ll add it to my Borg of information and change course. Link?

Still means Obama is mysteriously absolved of something Trump is accused of.

How am I supposed to take you or anyone seriously that doesn’t use the same standards to judge everyone?
You do know 170 historians in the US have called Trump the worst presiden in the history of America. what I dont understand what you like about him.He got a good economy when he came into power which continued for three yearsas soon as the 1st problem came he couldnt handle it and now you have 12.3% unemployment the worst since the great depression.
 
First of all I dont bash America I ust dont like the present Govt,besides being incompetent they have lost their influence around the world. Ask your son what do people think of US around europe and around the world.
Yes we are very proud of our daughter,she also got into yale also but we chose univ of chicago because I have two sisters there.At presents she wants psychology as her major but who knows.
We have already asked the univ to change her admission to Jan.I will see who wins the election then decide if to send her to the US or to Newzealand.
It is very toxic in the US today not because of the majority of the population but Trumps base.
University of Chicago is a fantastic school, albeit it is in a pretty dangerous part of town. The campus seems to be relatively safe, but not so much as you go out a couple of blocks. The same could be said for Yale. My son applied and was admitted to both schools. I liked Chicago a lot, wanted my son to go there. There was something about Yale I didn’t care for. It has a beautiful campus, but is surrounded on all sides by ghettos.

Just out of curiosity, if your daughter becomes a psychologist will she go back to Pakistan to hang her shingle? Forgive my ignorance about the Muslim faith in Muslim countries, but is a woman welcome to have such a practice in Pakistan? Or would she possibly be subject to violence like the dancer in the video?
 
You do know 170 historians in the US have called Trump the worst presiden in the history of America. what I dont understand what you like about him.He got a good economy when he came into power which continued for three yearsas soon as the 1st problem came he couldnt handle it and now you have 12.3% unemployment the worst since the great depression.
Leftist drama queenery and bureaucracy wrecked (By doing nothing but getting in the way) the great economy the Trump brought to us (by merely getting government out of the way). Btw, don’t you have an honor killing or something to go to?
 
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You do know 170 historians in the US have called Trump the worst presiden in the history of America. what I dont understand what you like about him.He got a good economy when he came into power which continued for three yearsas soon as the 1st problem came he couldnt handle it and now you have 12.3% unemployment the worst since the great depression.
You funny guy!
 
You do know 170 historians in the US have called Trump the worst presiden in the history of America. what I dont understand what you like about him.He got a good economy when he came into power which continued for three yearsas soon as the 1st problem came he couldnt handle it and now you have 12.3% unemployment the worst since the great depression.


Any historian that would add his name to that list would not be a legitimate historian, but an ideological activist. Just in my lifetime there have been at least three presidents that make Trump look positively spectacular. LBJ may have been the most incompetent and corrupt president of the 20th Century, and that’s saying a lot because Richard Nixon oozed corruption and Jimmy Carter was the epitome of incompetence.

Trump is not the horrible president you think he is. In many respects he has been very good. His attempts to reduce regulations tops the list. He pushed through and signed significant tax reductions (although I do wish it had been more). He has slowed, if not halted (temporarily) the rush toward activist judges. You are deceiving yourself that he inherited a great economy. America’s economy was growing slowly and he managed to light a fire under it. It is disingenuous for anyone to blame him for the decline in the economy after C-19 struck, or for his “handling” of the crisis. As anyone on this board will tell you I am not a Trump fan. But he has handled the C-19 crisis about as well as anyone should expect. The Trump haters are trying to have it both ways: if he behaves dictatorially they accuse him of wanting to be a dictator; if he leaves decisions to governors they insist he should be more dictatorial. He is FAR from America's worst president in history. It is nothing but pretense for you or any so-called historian to say he is.
 
University of Chicago is a fantastic school, albeit it is in a pretty dangerous part of town. The campus seems to be relatively safe, but not so much as you go out a couple of blocks. The same could be said for Yale. My son applied and was admitted to both schools. I liked Chicago a lot, wanted my son to go there. There was something about Yale I didn’t care for. It has a beautiful campus, but is surrounded on all sides by ghettos.

Just out of curiosity, if your daughter becomes a psychologist will she go back to Pakistan to hang her shingle? Forgive my ignorance about the Muslim faith in Muslim countries, but is a woman welcome to have such a practice in Pakistan? Or would she possibly be subject to violence like the dancer in the video?
Pakistan is full of women doctors and psychologists.Pakistan is not like saudia or other arab countries.Women have very important positions in Pakistan,infact one of the largest banks in Pakistan has a christian woman as the CEO.
What she would do after she is through with her studies is totally her choice,she can do and live wherever she wants to.
Yes univ of chicago is in a location which is not that safe,but like you said the campus is safe and if she ventures out in the evening it would be with friends.
Then my sisters are there and if she wants to go to their houses during the weekend she could do that.
Pakistan is quite liberal atleast as far as large cities are concerned. My daughter has been modeling for last couple of years.We would be more like india than other muslim countries.Most of the schools are coeducational,and a lot of marriages are by choice than arranged.
 
Any historian that would add his name to that list would not be a legitimate historian, but an ideological activist. Just in my lifetime there have been at least three presidents that make Trump look positively spectacular. LBJ may have been the most incompetent and corrupt president of the 20th Century, and that’s saying a lot because Richard Nixon oozed corruption and Jimmy Carter was the epitome of incompetence.

Trump is not the horrible president you think he is. In many respects he has been very good. His attempts to reduce regulations tops the list. He pushed through and signed significant tax reductions (although I do wish it had been more). He has slowed, if not halted (temporarily) the rush toward activist judges. You are deceiving yourself that he inherited a great economy. America’s economy was growing slowly and he managed to light a fire under it. It is disingenuous for anyone to blame him for the decline in the economy after C-19 struck, or for his “handling” of the crisis. As anyone on this board will tell you I am not a Trump fan. But he has handled the C-19 crisis about as well as anyone should expect. The Trump haters are trying to have it both ways: if he behaves dictatorially they accuse him of wanting to be a dictator; if he leaves decisions to governors they insist he should be more dictatorial. He is FAR from America's worst president in history. It is nothing but pretense for you or any so-called historian to say he is.
Ponca dan,i follow american politics very closely not just because of my association with your country because two of my children are there because my first wife was from oklahoma.
In 3rd world countries we have con men as politicians all the time with catchy slogans band end up doing nothing.I put Trump in the same category,his life history is of conning peoplehe failed in more businesses than he succeeded,His trump university was totally a con game.
There are areas that any government in any country has to take a close look at,one such thing is environment.One cannot take it non seriously,the north pole had gone to 100 degrees.Ice is melting and many of the cities on the coast would vanish in next 100yrs.
His team selection is poor look at the Boltons book. Not that I am a fan of his but few things he said were the same as many other authors have also said. He doesnt like to read and at best is a lazy president.
As far as LBJ is concerned he gave your country civil rights,and allowed the african american community a chance to compete on same footing.
I was an admirer of Nixon because he was a visionary,he was very insecure maybe that is why watergate happened,but he got the troops out of vietnam and opened up China.
One author talking about Trump said that he is the best at creating hype,and that is how he has conned his base.
 
Pakistan is full of women doctors and psychologists.Pakistan is not like saudia or other arab countries.Women have very important positions in Pakistan,infact one of the largest banks in Pakistan has a christian woman as the CEO.
What she would do after she is through with her studies is totally her choice,she can do and live wherever she wants to.
Yes univ of chicago is in a location which is not that safe,but like you said the campus is safe and if she ventures out in the evening it would be with friends.
Then my sisters are there and if she wants to go to their houses during the weekend she could do that.
Pakistan is quite liberal atleast as far as large cities are concerned. My daughter has been modeling for last couple of years.We would be more like india than other muslim countries.Most of the schools are coeducational,and a lot of marriages are by choice than arranged.


Please forgive my unenlightened prejudice. I know next to nothing about the Muslim religion, have always assumed “a Muslim is a Muslim” regardless of where they come from. It has been shameful that I thought that way.

I have always known there are highly educated professional and entrepreneurial people in every country, no matter how “backwater” it may appear to be. But it is too lazily easy for me to put that out of mind and think only in terms as shown in movies. I am thankful you are on this board to remind me of reality!

But that does lead me to one question that perplexes the hell out of me. Namely, why do highly educated professional and entrepreneurial people in places like Pakistan favor “big government” policies? What is the attraction to socialism or fascism? Surely highly educated people can look at the world and see that free societies are the ones that advance, both materially and spiritually. I would think people from countries that have overbearing governments would want them to be smaller, not larger. Is this another misconception on my part? Do you and your circle of friends in Pakistan advocate for liberty and free markets, work toward such a society? I ask because it seems to me from some of you’re comments on this board that you do not.
 
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Ponca dan,i follow american politics very closely not just because of my association with your country because two of my children are there because my first wife was from oklahoma.
In 3rd world countries we have con men as politicians all the time with catchy slogans band end up doing nothing.I put Trump in the same category,his life history is of conning peoplehe failed in more businesses than he succeeded,His trump university was totally a con game.
There are areas that any government in any country has to take a close look at,one such thing is environment.One cannot take it non seriously,the north pole had gone to 100 degrees.Ice is melting and many of the cities on the coast would vanish in next 100yrs.
His team selection is poor look at the Boltons book. Not that I am a fan of his but few things he said were the same as many other authors have also said. He doesnt like to read and at best is a lazy president.
As far as LBJ is concerned he gave your country civil rights,and allowed the african american community a chance to compete on same footing.
I was an admirer of Nixon because he was a visionary,he was very insecure maybe that is why watergate happened,but he got the troops out of vietnam and opened up China.
One author talking about Trump said that he is the best at creating hype,and that is how he has conned his base.


We’ll just have to disagree on most of this. I lived my “formative” years through the nightmare that was LBJ. Any notion he gave a damn about civil rights is pure hogwash. He helped create the race riots in my youth and had no idea how to overcome them. Richard Nixon didn’t have an incorruptible bone in his body. Jimmy Carter was an absolute embarrassment.

It’s very frustrating for me to be “defending” Donald Trump. I can barely tolerate looking at the man. But he has shown no more incompetence than most presidents. He’s average. Anyone who is able to look objectively at him recognizes that fact. He’s done many things that have driven me over the edge, as a few of our fellow posters will attest. But he’s also made a few right calls. He deserves criticism for his failures (which I have been more than willing to point out), but he also deserves praise when he gets things right. It is unfair to our country for anyone to deny that. From my perspective America started out with George Washington and Thomas Jefferson as presidents, and it’s been downhill ever since.
 
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You do know 170 historians in the US have called Trump the worst presiden in the history of America. what I dont understand what you like about him.He got a good economy when he came into power which continued for three yearsas soon as the 1st problem came he couldnt handle it and now you have 12.3% unemployment the worst since the great depression.

O, ffs.

You referencing an article written in 2018 (when the lib machine was still selling a lie 24/7, collusion) and a global pandemic where the China and The Who began the domino of questionable decisions by everyone, tells you how you weigh information.
 
We’ll just have to disagree on most of this. I lived my “formative” years through the nightmare that was LBJ. Any notion he gave a damn about civil rights is pure hogwash. He helped create the race riots in my youth and had no idea how to overcome them. Richard Nixon didn’t have an incorruptible bone in his body. Jimmy Carter was an absolute embarrassment.

It’s very frustrating for me to be “defending” Donald Trump. I can barely tolerate looking at the man. But he has shown no more incompetence than most presidents. He’s average. Anyone who is able to look objectively at him recognizes that fact. He’s done many things that have driven me over the edge, as a few of our fellow posters will attest. But he’s also made a few right calls. He deserves criticism for his failures (which I have been more than willing to point out), but he also deserves praise when he gets things right. It is unfair to our country for anyone to deny that. From my perspective America started out with George Washington and Thomas Jefferson as presidents, and it’s been downhill ever since.
Well to compare Washington and Jefferson to any recent presidents is not fair.It was a different time. US then was more libertarian but US was not a world power,and communism hadnt become a philosophy.
Presidents after 2nd war had international problems. They were fighting communism and it had become the only hurdle from communism spreading around the world.
T^o not to blame Trumps handling of covid 19 is naive.
Europe has it under control while it is surging in the US. With 4% of the world population and 25% of infections and deaths shows the incompetency of the govt.
Asking people to drink clorox is asinine,Going out without a mask is stupid.
We started using masks by end of feb and have continued to do so.
Humping the US flag was idiotic.And photo op with the bible was something I see our mullahs do.
In the present racial tensions he is the first president unable to come out with a statement to unite the country.He is calling them nazis while the real american nazis are supporting him..
 
Well to compare Washington and Jefferson to any recent presidents is not fair.It was a different time. US then was more libertarian but US was not a world power,and communism hadnt become a philosophy.
Presidents after 2nd war had international problems. They were fighting communism and it had become the only hurdle from communism spreading around the world.
T^o not to blame Trumps handling of covid 19 is naive.
Europe has it under control while it is surging in the US. With 4% of the world population and 25% of infections and deaths shows the incompetency of the govt.
Asking people to drink clorox is asinine,Going out without a mask is stupid.
We started using masks by end of feb and have continued to do so.
Humping the US flag was idiotic.And photo op with the bible was something I see our mullahs do.
In the present racial tensions he is the first president unable to come out with a statement to unite the country.He is calling them nazis while the real american nazis are supporting him..


I really don’t want to get in a “data” war over this. We can both cite statistics to make our side look good. You will admit, surely, that most of the bad C-19 statistics come from states, counties and cities that are dominated by anti-Trump Democratic strongholds. Why you want to place all the blame on Donald Trump is a curiosity.

I’m unaware that he recommends people drink Clorox. Personally I find that unbelievable. It sounds like left-wing “spin” of something he said that leftists knew they could take out of context. Also I don’t know what you’re talking about him “humping” the flag. I agree the “bible incident” was very poor optics. As regards calling his opponents Nazis, I think it depends on his target. There is no doubt in my mind the Antifa and BLM’s hover very close to nazi ideology. Your claim that he’s the first president that couldn’t make a statement to unite the races is poppycock. You may not be aware of the race riots while LBJ was president. They make most of today’s riots look like amateurs. Everything LBJ did and said only made things worse.

I’ll talk to you about American foreign policy at another time. For now it’s time for me to hit the treadmill!
 
I really don’t want to get in a “data” war over this. We can both cite statistics to make our side look good. You will admit, surely, that most of the bad C-19 statistics come from states, counties and cities that are dominated by anti-Trump Democratic strongholds. Why you want to place all the blame on Donald Trump is a curiosity.

I’m unaware that he recommends people drink Clorox. Personally I find that unbelievable. It sounds like left-wing “spin” of something he said that leftists knew they could take out of context. Also I don’t know what you’re talking about him “humping” the flag. I agree the “bible incident” was very poor optics. As regards calling his opponents Nazis, I think it depends on his target. There is no doubt in my mind the Antifa and BLM’s hover very close to nazi ideology. Your claim that he’s the first president that couldn’t make a statement to unite the races is poppycock. You may not be aware of the race riots while LBJ was president. They make most of today’s riots look like amateurs. Everything LBJ did and said only made things worse.

I’ll talk to you about American foreign policy at another time. For now it’s time for me to hit the treadmill!
There more reasons for race riots during 1968 elections they are now,
Leasership is when you take most of the country with you this man hasnt been able to rhat,his speech at mount rushmore was very divisive
In one of his speech to some conservative group he was hugging the flag.
What is his base today are the people he despises in real life.
 
Well to compare Washington and Jefferson to any recent presidents is not fair.It was a different time. US then was more libertarian but US was not a world power,and communism hadnt become a philosophy.
Presidents after 2nd war had international problems. They were fighting communism and it had become the only hurdle from communism spreading around the world.
T^o not to blame Trumps handling of covid 19 is naive.
Europe has it under control while it is surging in the US. With 4% of the world population and 25% of infections and deaths shows the incompetency of the govt.
Asking people to drink clorox is asinine,Going out without a mask is stupid.
We started using masks by end of feb and have continued to do so.
Humping the US flag was idiotic.And photo op with the bible was something I see our mullahs do.
In the present racial tensions he is the first president unable to come out with a statement to unite the country.He is calling them nazis while the real american nazis are supporting him..

That’s mostly idiotic.

Just spewing meme captions.
 
There more reasons for race riots during 1968 elections they are now,
Leasership is when you take most of the country with you this man hasnt been able to rhat,his speech at mount rushmore was very divisive
In one of his speech to some conservative group he was hugging the flag.
What is his base today are the people he despises in real life.
I don’t think we could be further apart. I thought his Mt. Rushmore Speech was his best ever. It was a call to arms to protect the sanctity of our nation from elements hell bent on destroying it. The divisiveness you saw stuck me as an appeal for the “silent majority” to speak up before it is too late.
 
I don’t think we could be further apart. I thought his Mt. Rushmore Speech was his best ever. It was a call to arms to protect the sanctity of our nation from elements hell bent on destroying it. The divisiveness you saw stuck me as an appeal for the “silent majority” to speak up before it is too late.
Well I guess we are far apart in thinking.Protecting statues of southern generals I dont understand because they were traitors and fought against the union,and nobody was going to destroy mont rushmore.I dont think he was appealing to the silent majority but to his base and the white supramist supporters.
 
Please forgive my unenlightened prejudice. I know next to nothing about the Muslim religion, have always assumed “a Muslim is a Muslim” regardless of where they come from. It has been shameful that I thought that way.

I have always known there are highly educated professional and entrepreneurial people in every country, no matter how “backwater” it may appear to be. But it is too lazily easy for me to put that out of mind and think only in terms as shown in movies. I am thankful you are on this board to remind me of reality!

But that does lead me to one question that perplexes the hell out of me. Namely, why do highly educated professional and entrepreneurial people in places like Pakistan favor “big government” policies? What is the attraction to socialism or fascism? Surely highly educated people can look at the world and see that free societies are the ones that advance, both materially and spiritually. I would think people from countries that have overbearing governments would want them to be smaller, not larger. Is this another misconception on my part? Do you and your circle of friends in Pakistan advocate for liberty and free markets, work toward such a society? I ask because it seems to me from some of you’re comments on this board that you do not.
Pakistan has free press atleast as far as politics are concerned.It is the religious part that one has to be careful about.
As far as educated professionals are concerned they are on both side of the isle just like your country.I dont think there is any support for fascism unless you include small minority that is righr wing religious parties like evangelicals in the US
As far as big govt is concerned,most of the times the party heading the govt is coalition,thus a lot of ministers and departments.But as far as big issues are concerned like education and health they are provincial subjjects.We generally dont get much done is because of ramoant corruption.Our last two leaders are multi billionaire in dollars.Infact one of was rated as the most corrupt politician in the world bu Guardian of UK.
Your press whether liberal or conservative is very biased as far as international
reporting is concerned. Therefore to get to actually what is happening around the world one has to supplement ones reading one has to look at press from several different countries reporting the same story to get an idea to what is actually happening.
We are in greece right now so to get time to go thru the internet is limited.
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