Matt Lauer.....
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Bottom line, no matter the "party affiliation", it is sad that many men in a position of privilege, tremendous wealth, notoriety, etc... In the movie/TV/News/Talk Show industry became so self indulged and so clueless to their hypocrisy that they preyed on women like this. These men were in a position of power over these women because of an employment / work environment situation, not as if they were at a bar and could have just slapped them and walked off.
I guess I am really, really, naïve, I would have never predicted something like this. Those who are guilty deserve all the shame they are getting and more. But like many things in life I am pretty old school, married to one women for 26 years and never have cheated on her.
If you want to be a playboy, do not marry and date a bunch of women, not hard to do with all that fame and fortune.
Alternative 2, again if you have that much wealth (Lauer making $25 million a year) and you can not control yourself and keep it in your pants, why not just go "Pretty Women" style and pay to have very discreet and high class call girls take care of you? Get busted here and it is embarrassing, but my lord at least you were dealing with professional call girls who enjoy their profession and get paid extremely well and you are not harassing women, molesting them, and raping them?
Maybe I do not understand the psychology behind this, maybe it is all about control, etc...
How on earth if you have Matt Lauer's life do you screw that up? How phucked up do you have to be? Like a great athlete blowing millions over stupid stuff.
There have been rumors about Matt for a long time, NBC knew there is no doubt, the boys club culture there assisted this. Having a button to lock doors behind someone should have never been allowed with no windows, etc... Any experienced HR manager would know this is not ideal and might be a huge red flag. What could you be doing in your office that requires so much privacy if it is a work area?
I worked in a Fortune 500 company at one time, and they installed inside windows looking in to the building for all offices so that any manager could not call someone in to their office and have complete privacy. Why would anyone have a problem with that? It was good protection for the manager as well, much harder to make a false complaint.
We were also taught to never drive alone with a female subordinate, just common sense. It was sad things came to that, but just do not put yourself in a position of temptation or again being a victim of a false complaint.
I guess I am really, really, naïve, I would have never predicted something like this. Those who are guilty deserve all the shame they are getting and more. But like many things in life I am pretty old school, married to one women for 26 years and never have cheated on her.
If you want to be a playboy, do not marry and date a bunch of women, not hard to do with all that fame and fortune.
Alternative 2, again if you have that much wealth (Lauer making $25 million a year) and you can not control yourself and keep it in your pants, why not just go "Pretty Women" style and pay to have very discreet and high class call girls take care of you? Get busted here and it is embarrassing, but my lord at least you were dealing with professional call girls who enjoy their profession and get paid extremely well and you are not harassing women, molesting them, and raping them?
Maybe I do not understand the psychology behind this, maybe it is all about control, etc...
How on earth if you have Matt Lauer's life do you screw that up? How phucked up do you have to be? Like a great athlete blowing millions over stupid stuff.
There have been rumors about Matt for a long time, NBC knew there is no doubt, the boys club culture there assisted this. Having a button to lock doors behind someone should have never been allowed with no windows, etc... Any experienced HR manager would know this is not ideal and might be a huge red flag. What could you be doing in your office that requires so much privacy if it is a work area?
I worked in a Fortune 500 company at one time, and they installed inside windows looking in to the building for all offices so that any manager could not call someone in to their office and have complete privacy. Why would anyone have a problem with that? It was good protection for the manager as well, much harder to make a false complaint.
We were also taught to never drive alone with a female subordinate, just common sense. It was sad things came to that, but just do not put yourself in a position of temptation or again being a victim of a false complaint.
TTIWWOP!
Got no pics. Sick of these dumb bastards giving us real ladies men a bad rep. Matt Lauer? Al fvckin Franken? Roy Moore? These douche bags groping the ladies and forcing themselves on girls make me wanna puke. We have to change our game now because people like syssy and Gloria Allred gonna come at us with law suits for simply opening the door for some broad. Sick of it! Free the ladies man!!
I like your post and I don’t think you are saying anything differently....but I just wanted to point out that if these same men did the same things being alleged at a bar or in public, it still wouldn’t have been completely wrong and possibly/likely criminal conduct (certainly at the point of physical touching in a sexual manner without consent, etc).
Fellas, it’s a crime to “grope” without permission or consent.
Just putting that out there for all you YDAFC fellows out there. I’m sure it’s something all of us old sedate married guys understand.
Just to add to this, any place, any time, offline, online...if it ever involves a co-worker, it can be sexual harassment. So, think twice before every retweet/FB like if you have co-worker followers/FB friends.I like your post and I don’t think you are saying anything differently....but I just wanted to point out that if these same men did the same things being alleged at a bar or in public, it still wouldn’t have been completely wrong and possibly/likely criminal conduct (certainly at the point of physical touching in a sexual manner without consent, etc).
Fellas, it’s a crime to “grope” without permission or consent.
Just putting that out there for all you YDAFC fellows out there. I’m sure it’s something all of us old sedate married guys understand.
For the record, shouldn't Michelle Obama be on the list for sexual harassment? They eventually married, but she was Obama's supervisor when they met and worked together at a Chicago Law firm.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46368364/ns/business-careers/t/behind-numbers-office-romance/
For the record, I didn't know this. My wife was simply a co-worker when we met, so I was looking up details about inter-office dating. Was thinking that this new culture change is going to freeze a lot office dating opportunities, and thus may serve as a good time to by stock in mtch (match.com).
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46368364/ns/business-careers/t/behind-numbers-office-romance/
For the record, I didn't know this. My wife was simply a co-worker when we met, so I was looking up details about inter-office dating. Was thinking that this new culture change is going to freeze a lot office dating opportunities, and thus may serve as a good time to by stock in mtch (match.com).
The training I last had a couple of decades ago was pretty good.
For example, let's say a boss and his secretary go on a business trip together, they go to dinner and they have some drinks. As they are walking to their hotel rooms he asks her if she would like to come to his room. She says no. They go their separate ways. Is this sexual harassment? No. Stupid? Perhaps. Let's say he invites her to his room and tells her if she does not she is not getting that promotion. Is that sexual harassment? Yes!
Let's say in the first instance, when he invites her to the room, she says she is flattered but his invitation makes her uncomfortable and she would appreciate for him to never make such a request again. So, fast forward 4 weeks, same deal, and he invites her to his room again, is that harassment? Very well could be. If it happens a 3rd time? No doubt.
Harassment is highly subjective, it is up to a person if they are uncomfortable with something (a boss that every now and then puts a hand on a shoulder slightly when standing behind someone while they are sitting and talking to them) to set boundaries, that way someone knows what boundaries to not cross. Not everything someone might be doing may be intended to be creepy or harassing, but the person on the other end is still uncomfortable.
That NBC news division is a bunch of hyenas. Brian Williams. This guy. They aren't fox-level but the people that rise through the ranks over there don't give NBC a good look.
The biggest challenge I'm having is if harassment is by definition performing actions that make the victim feel uncomfortable, does the uncomfortable feeling have to be at the time of the incident? Obviously not the case with Lauer, but I'd be concerned that what was consensual in the evening may become harassment in the morning.
Undrafted free agent. One time incident or are more going to come forward?
http://news.valubit.org/report-nbc-paid-off-chris-matthews-accuser-over-sexual-harassment-claims/
He had the tingles.
Undrafted free agent. One time incident or are more going to come forward?
http://news.valubit.org/report-nbc-paid-off-chris-matthews-accuser-over-sexual-harassment-claims/
Inappropriate jokes in 1999? This shit is getting beyond ridiculous.
Undrafted free agent. One time incident or are more going to come forward?
http://news.valubit.org/report-nbc-paid-off-chris-matthews-accuser-over-sexual-harassment-claims/
As Yuri Bezmenov (the brilliant KGB Defector) said in his 1984 interview, Marxist power structures aren't forgiving (or tolerant) to their own foot soldiers.
Simply think about the vast numbers of powerful people surrounding Stalin and Mao who had quick and brutal downfalls.
Hence, so many well-known leftists going down (with zero sympathy or remorse) by the system they promoted, perpetuated and believed in.
Listen closely:
Its sad that this is news now, but at least she reported it back in '99. The fact that he got a slap on the wrist (if that) for it shows how far we've come as a society in 20 years. The hard part is (and this is the same concern I had about the current prosecution of past slaveowners) is that we are trying to apply today's standards and morality to a prior era.
It probably wouldn't be at a fevered pitch if some folks hadn't spent an entire presidential election cycle grandstanding about their moral superiority on the issues (deplorables, misogyny, sexist, etc). Hypocrisy is largely indefensible and makes for great news coverage.
So, his leg wasn't tingling in '99?
Wrist, or the post-99 tingling leg?
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