Man Arrested For Placing Joe Biden I Did That Stickers On Gas Pumps

[2012Bearcat]

Pennsylvania man arrested after putting ‘I did that!’ Biden stickers on gas pumps - Washington Examiner

A Pennsylvania man has been charged after being caught allegedly putting stickers on gas pumps that protest President Joe Biden's effect on gas prices. The charges were filed on April 5 against Thomas Richard Glazewski, who was arrested on March 31 after causing a commotion at a Turkey Hill gas...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I've seen several of those stickers on gas pumps when I'm filling up and thought they were funny. Evidently it's illegal to place stickers protesting high gas prices on gas pumps.

 

[windriverrange]

Just have to be careful when placing. I'm on my 2nd pack of 100.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Pennsylvania man arrested after putting ‘I did that!’ Biden stickers on gas pumps - Washington Examiner

A Pennsylvania man has been charged after being caught allegedly putting stickers on gas pumps that protest President Joe Biden's effect on gas prices. The charges were filed on April 5 against Thomas Richard Glazewski, who was arrested on March 31 after causing a commotion at a Turkey Hill gas...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I've seen several of those stickers on gas pumps when I'm filling up and thought they were funny. Evidently it's illegal to place stickers protesting high gas prices on gas pumps.

I think there would be a definite free speech issue that could be brought up here.

 

[wyomingosualum]

I think there would be a definite free speech issue that could be brought up here.

But the gas pumps are private property. You wouldn’t want somebody plastering your car with Biden stickers, I think.

But if I was the owner of the gas station, every pump would have those stickers on them!

 

[davidallen]

I remember folks here celebrating a gas station owner threatening to arrest people removing those stickers....

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

But the gas pumps are private property. You wouldn’t want somebody plastering your car with Biden stickers, I think.

But if I was the owner of the gas station, every pump would have those stickers on them!

I don't know if you would win but argue that it is like the flag burning. No property was damaged in this case as well. You should be able to draw a line between a personal car and publicly used gas pump.

 

[davidallen]

I don't know if you would win but argue that it is like the flag burning. No property was damaged in this case as well. You should be able to draw a line between a personal car and publicly used gas pump.

LOL. The lengths you'll go to to support your team.

 

[Ponca Dan]

I don't know if you would win but argue that it is like the flag burning. No property was damaged in this case as well. You should be able to draw a line between a personal car and publicly used gas pump.

A publicly used gas pump is privately owned property and defacing privately owned property should not be considered free speech.

 

[2012Bearcat]

I never even thought about it being illegal but I did find it funny and always appreciated the conversations around the gas pumps it caused. Heard a lot of people shouting out the not as polite "Lets Go Brandon" chant.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

A publicly used gas pump is privately owned property and defacing privately owned property should not be considered free speech.

I think there is enough government regulation of the pump to warrant constitutional protections. In this case a decision like the Tinker Test may have some limited application. Did the expression substantially interfere with the operation of the pump? Where does public and private begin or where is the side walk?

 

[wyomingosualum]

I don't know if you would win but argue that it is like the flag burning. No property was damaged in this case as well. You should be able to draw a line between a personal car and publicly used gas pump.

You purchase a flag and decide to burn it, you’re golden. You take a flag that’s not yours and burn it, you have committed a crime.

Note that the Oklahoma state law also covers defacement of property (i.e., graffiti, stickers, etc.):

Title 21. Crimes and Punishments​

§21-1760. Malicious injury or destruction of property generally - Punishment - Damages.​

Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 21-1760 (2014)
A. Every person who maliciously injures, defaces or destroys any real or personal property not his or her own, in cases other than such as are specified in Section 1761 et seq. of this title, is guilty of:

1. A misdemeanor, if the damage, defacement or destruction causes a loss which has an aggregate value of less than One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00);

2. A felony, if the damage, defacement or destruction causes a loss which has an aggregate value of One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) or more; or

3. A felony, if the defendant has two or more prior convictions for an offense under this section, notwithstanding the value of loss caused by the damage, defacement or destruction.

B. In addition to any other punishment prescribed by law for violations of subsection A of this section, he or she is liable in treble damages for the injury done, to be recovered in a civil action by the owner of such property or public officer having charge thereof.

 

[Ponca Dan]

I think there is enough government regulation of the pump to warrant constitutional protections. In this case a decision like the Tinker Test may have some limited application. Did the expression substantially interfere with the operation of the pump? Where does public and private begin or where is the side walk?

Well I've never heard of the Tinker Test, so I can't comment on that. But in my opinion something is private property when someone buys it, installs it and makes it available to dispense the product. IMO it doesn't matter if it interfers with the operation of the pump. If the owner doesn't want his property to be defaced, then no one should deface it.

 

[OUSOONER67]

 

[AC2020]

I remember folks here celebrating a gas station owner threatening to arrest people removing those stickers....

I guess it's a little better than burning the place down.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

You purchase a flag and decide to burn it, you’re golden. You take a flag that’s not yours and burn it, you have committed a crime.

Note that the Oklahoma state law also covers defacement of property (i.e., graffiti, stickers, etc.):

Title 21. Crimes and Punishments​

§21-1760. Malicious injury or destruction of property generally - Punishment - Damages.​

Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 21-1760 (2014)
A. Every person who maliciously injures, defaces or destroys any real or personal property not his or her own, in cases other than such as are specified in Section 1761 et seq. of this title, is guilty of:

1. A misdemeanor, if the damage, defacement or destruction causes a loss which has an aggregate value of less than One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00);

2. A felony, if the damage, defacement or destruction causes a loss which has an aggregate value of One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) or more; or

3. A felony, if the defendant has two or more prior convictions for an offense under this section, notwithstanding the value of loss caused by the damage, defacement or destruction.

B. In addition to any other punishment prescribed by law for violations of subsection A of this section, he or she is liable in treble damages for the injury done, to be recovered in a civil action by the owner of such property or public officer having charge thereof.

Fair enough, but what would be the value of the loss? Also, could you define how a sticker is maliciously placed on the pump? Not sure these key elements are being met.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Fair enough, but what would be the value of the loss? Also, could you define how a sticker is maliciously placed on the pump? Not sure these key elements are being met.

It does seem to be an awfully low-key crime, hardly worth an arrest. But it’s defacing someone’s private property nevertheless, and the owner of said property deserves justice, even if it’s nothing more than making the perp remove the sticker and banning him from ever coming to that gas station again. I’m with Wyoming on this. If it were my gas station I’d put one of those stickers on every pump I own.

 

[2012Bearcat]

I would blow that sticker up to lifesize and hoist it up to the sign that advertises the price.

 

[davidallen]

I guess it's a little better than burning the place down.

Free speech and #whatnot.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

LOL. The lengths you'll go to to support your team.

Talking to the mirror again, fatboy?

 

[davidallen]

I would blow that sticker up to lifesize and hoist it up to the sign that advertises the price.

Sure you would Sparky. Why haven't you?

 

[davidallen]

I never even thought about it being illegal but I did find it funny and always appreciated the conversations around the gas pumps it caused. Heard a lot of people shouting out the not as polite "Lets Go Brandon" chant.

What are these "gas stations" you plebs speak of?

 

[wyomingosualum]

Fair enough, but what would be the value of the loss? Also, could you define how a sticker is maliciously placed on the pump? Not sure these key elements are being met.

Definition of malice​

1: desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to anotheran attack motivated by pure malice
2: intent to commit an unlawful act or cause harm without legal justification or excuse

Did the person intentionally place the sticker on the private property belonging to somebody else? If the answer is yes, then this element is met.

As for damage, I don’t know. Pretty low grade, as @Ponca Dan said. Any paint come off when the sticker was removed? When the employee gets sent out to the same pump to remove another sticker for the 8th time today, 7 days every week, has the finish on the pump become damaged by another scraping with a razor? Hard to say from here.

If the answer is “the defacement caused no damage”, then I’d say zero is less than $1,000, so it’s a misdemeanor. Just my opinion.

The stickers are funny, though. I think it was @GunsOfFrankEaton that posted a meme one time that had the Biden “I did that” sticker next to a Pelosi “I helped” sticker next to a Kamala “I’m just stupid” sticker. That was a literal LOL post.

 

[OKSTATE1]

Well, maybe people that want to do this should put the stickers on cars pointing to the gas cap. Especially ones with Brandon stickers or tags from blue states. 😂

 

[Ostatedchi]

That's not free speech. It's vandalism. You don't get to molest other people's property. The left does it by stealing, spray painting, or burning it down. The right does it with stickers. One is more wrong than the other. But they are both wrong.

 

[Medic007]

Wherefore had he not acted like a screaming dickhead to the store employee and responding officers, he probably wouldn't have been arrested. His charges aren't for vandalism.

 

[OKSTATE1]

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Definition of malice​

1: desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to anotheran attack motivated by pure malice
2: intent to commit an unlawful act or cause harm without legal justification or excuse

Did the person intentionally place the sticker on the private property belonging to somebody else? If the answer is yes, then this element is met.

As for damage, I don’t know. Pretty low grade, as @Ponca Dan said. Any paint come off when the sticker was removed? When the employee gets sent out to the same pump to remove another sticker for the 8th time today, 7 days every week, has the finish on the pump become damaged by another scraping with a razor? Hard to say from here.

If the answer is “the defacement caused no damage”, then I’d say zero is less than $1,000, so it’s a misdemeanor. Just my opinion.

The stickers are funny, though. I think it was @GunsOfFrankEaton that posted a meme one time that had the Biden “I did that” sticker next to a Pelosi “I helped” sticker next to a Kamala “I’m just stupid” sticker. That was a literal LOL post.

I would disagree with that, I read it as it has to placed with intent to harm.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be pushy, just like arguing the point. The law can be read a million different ways. Intent, and interpretation become a big part of how it is enforced. I would look down upon any owner filing suit for a sticker, and even a DA that took the case. At the same time, I believe the law is the law, and if you break it don't be surprised when someone calls you on it.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Definition of malice​

1: desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to anotheran attack motivated by pure malice
2: intent to commit an unlawful act or cause harm without legal justification or excuse

Did the person intentionally place the sticker on the private property belonging to somebody else? If the answer is yes, then this element is met.

As for damage, I don’t know. Pretty low grade, as @Ponca Dan said. Any paint come off when the sticker was removed? When the employee gets sent out to the same pump to remove another sticker for the 8th time today, 7 days every week, has the finish on the pump become damaged by another scraping with a razor? Hard to say from here.

If the answer is “the defacement caused no damage”, then I’d say zero is less than $1,000, so it’s a misdemeanor. Just my opinion.

The stickers are funny, though. I think it was @GunsOfFrankEaton that posted a meme one time that had the Biden “I did that” sticker next to a Pelosi “I helped” sticker next to a Kamala “I’m just stupid” sticker. That was a literal LOL post.

It wasn’t me. Wish it had been. I will be on the lookout for that sticker now.

 

[iasooner2000]

I have seen it around. I will look for some made on ‘semi-permanent’ sticker stock. Otherwise I have the means to make my own

 

[wyomingosualum]

I would disagree with that, I read it as it has to placed with intent to harm.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be pushy, just like arguing the point. The law can be read a million different ways. Intent, and interpretation become a big part of how it is enforced. I would look down upon any owner filing suit for a sticker, and even a DA that took the case. At the same time, I believe the law is the law, and if you break it don't be surprised when someone calls you on it.

No offense taken at all. I enjoy reading your posts.

 

[ClintonDavidScott]

That's not free speech. It's vandalism. You don't get to molest other people's property. The left does it by stealing, spray painting, or burning it down. The right does it with stickers. One is more wrong than the other. But they are both wrong.

Cmon man lolololololol jfc hahahahahahahahaha

Police investigating racist threats at Black church in Floyd County

Floyd County police are investigating racist threats at a Black church.

www.wsbtv.com

Proud Boys Sued Over Attack on Black Church in DC

The far-right group the Proud Boys was dragged to court Monday by a church in the nation’s capital that claims it was terrorized last month when members of the group vandalized Black Lives Matter signs in an attempt to silence supporters of racial justice.

www.courthousenews.com

How many more you want?

 

[SquatchinPoke]

Cmon man lolololololol jfc hahahahahahahahaha

Police investigating racist threats at Black church in Floyd County

Floyd County police are investigating racist threats at a Black church.

www.wsbtv.com

Proud Boys Sued Over Attack on Black Church in DC

The far-right group the Proud Boys was dragged to court Monday by a church in the nation’s capital that claims it was terrorized last month when members of the group vandalized Black Lives Matter signs in an attempt to silence supporters of racial justice.

www.courthousenews.com

How many more you want?

I wish your momma would spit you out instead of swallowing.

 

[ClintonDavidScott]

I wish your momma would spit you out instead of swallowing.

***thinks babies are born through the mouth, displays yet another example of developmental disability***

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Cmon man lolololololol jfc hahahahahahahahaha

Police investigating racist threats at Black church in Floyd County

Floyd County police are investigating racist threats at a Black church.

www.wsbtv.com

Proud Boys Sued Over Attack on Black Church in DC

The far-right group the Proud Boys was dragged to court Monday by a church in the nation’s capital that claims it was terrorized last month when members of the group vandalized Black Lives Matter signs in an attempt to silence supporters of racial justice.

www.courthousenews.com

How many more you want?

This one definitely has malice, and free speech would not apply.

 

[SquatchinPoke]

***thinks babies are born through the mouth, displays yet another example of developmental disability***

Do you know how hard it is living in the top 10% of intelligence in the world and having to explain life, comedy, economics, and morality to you idiots???? The whole idea that you are so dumb you must have been conceived by unnatural means just was too much for that intelligent brain of yours, isn't it?

then again you might have been conceived by anal who knows with you. Keep on Jimmy

 

[ClintonDavidScott]

Do you know how hard it is living in the top 10% of intelligence in the world and having to explain life, comedy, economics, and morality to you idiots???? The whole idea that you are so dumb you must have been conceived by unnatural means just was too much for that intelligent brain of yours, isn't it?

then again you might have been conceived by anal who knows with you. Keep on Jimmy

***doubles down on display of developmental disability***

 

[SquatchinPoke]

***doubles down on display of developmental disability***

Great rebuttal took a bunch of that brain power up there. Man you got me and put me in my place. Got any news article you can google instead of forming your own ideas on here? Keep killing it Big Show.

 

[ClintonDavidScott]

This one definitely has malice, and free speech would not apply.

Isn’t this kinda your problem in this thread tho? You’re trying to envision this movable goalpost of the legal definition of malice. This man obviously had some element of malice to have the audacity to deface private property with political stickers…he completely lost his sh!t when he got called out for doing it lol.

 

[SquatchinPoke]

Isn’t this kinda your problem in this thread tho? You’re trying to envision this movable goalpost of the legal definition of malice. This man obviously had some element of malice to have the audacity to deface private property with political stickers…he completely lost his sh!t when he got called out for doing it lol.

Did you have malice when you tweeted you wanted to kill Trump?

 

[ClintonDavidScott]

Did you have malice when you tweeted you wanted to kill Trump?

Is that how it went? Hahahahaha


Carry on