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Macron Ater Call With Putin: Prepare For The Worst In Ukraine

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Sounds like Putin is not going to back down under any circumstances. I feel for the people of Ukraine. I also find it very telling that Putin is calling Macron and not Biden.
 

Sounds like Putin is not going to back down under any circumstances. I feel for the people of Ukraine. I also find it very telling that Putin is calling Macron and not Biden.
Telling in a positive way or no? I would say positive in so far as the parties most directly impacted are taking the lead. That Putin is doing the calling is also quite telling.

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I kind of agree with you, Biden cannot lead and it's better to have someone else handle this. With Bidens track record of foreign policy failure, he would more than likely start WWIII. Sad that the US has lost its leadership position in the world all due to having an incompetent, corrupt senile idiot in the White House. Good job lefties.
 
Telling in a positive way or no? I would say positive in so far as the parties most directly impacted are taking the lead. That Putin is doing the calling is also quite telling.

Here is a link to the story:
Nice try but you are way off the mark. There was no diplomatic call scheduled. Putin called Macron to rip into him about his speech to the French nation yesterday. Macron used pretty aggressive words and tones in his speech to chide Putin for his "faible" excuses for attacking Ukraine. Putin's tone was reported to be very harsh and threatening with Macron. Putin said he would up his demands once he has destroyed the "pitch", meaning playing field. I'm sure Biden would have pissed down both legs if Macron handed him the phone. Try France24 or Navaya Gazeta after you dig out your French-English and Russian-English dictionaries.
 
I kind of agree with you, Biden cannot lead and it's better to have someone else handle this. With Bidens track record of foreign policy failure, he would more than likely start WWIII. Sad that the US has lost its leadership position in the world all due to having an incompetent, corrupt senile idiot in the White House. Good job lefties.
Smart.
 
Nice try but you are way off the mark. There was no diplomatic call scheduled. Putin called Macron to rip into him about his speech to the French nation yesterday. Macron used pretty aggressive words and tones in his speech to chide Putin for his "faible" excuses for attacking Ukraine. Putin's tone was reported to be very harsh and threatening with Macron. Putin said he would up his demands once he has destroyed the "pitch", meaning playing field. I'm sure Biden would have pissed down both legs if Macron handed him the phone. Try France24 or Navaya Gazeta after you dig out your French-English and Russian-English dictionaries.

I've heard Macron was so hurt and upset he is already drawing up the French surrender documents.
 
I kind of agree with you, Biden cannot lead and it's better to have someone else handle this. With Bidens track record of foreign policy failure, he would more than likely start WWIII. Sad that the US has lost its leadership position in the world all due to having an incompetent, corrupt senile idiot in the White House. Good job lefties.
I'm going to say he and NATO have already started WW3- horrible Global leaders And global puppets and Putins not gonna just pull out.....NATO pushed it's way into Putin's no go zones and Putin's not gonna buy into this one world Govt CRAP. Energy and the Benjamin's are way involved but have I said fix 2020 and it fixes the world? Or we find a way to bunkers to survive the holocaust or Nukes?
 
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I'm going to say he and NATO have already started WW3- horrible Global leaders And global puppets and Putins not gonna just pull out.....NATO pushed it's way into Putin's no go zones and Putin's not gonna buy into this one world Govt CRAP. Energy and the Benjamin's are way involved but have I said fix 2020 and it fixes the world? Or we find a way to bunkers to survive the holocaust or Nukes?

Just curious as to your thoughts about what other countries should putin/russia be able to tell those citizens who or what organizations they should belong to?

No arguments on weak leadership........
 
Just curious as to your thoughts about what other countries should putin/russia be able to tell those citizens who or what organizations they should belong to?

No arguments on weak leadership........
I trust you understand that the United States is literally the last government on earth with the right to criticize another nation's government for telling another country what organizations it can belong to. I understand if you personally want to take this line of approach, but surely you recognize how tone deaf it is for the US government to pretend it sits atop the moral high ground on this particular topic.
 
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Yeah Biden should just stay out of it, he would just cock it up worse than it already is. Maybe our Border Czar could have given Ukraine some tips on Securing their Border but alas its too late.
 
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Nice try but you are way off the mark. There was no diplomatic call scheduled. Putin called Macron to rip into him about his speech to the French nation yesterday. Macron used pretty aggressive words and tones in his speech to chide Putin for his "faible" excuses for attacking Ukraine. Putin's tone was reported to be very harsh and threatening with Macron. Putin said he would up his demands once he has destroyed the "pitch", meaning playing field. I'm sure Biden would have pissed down both legs if Macron handed him the phone. Try France24 or Navaya Gazeta after you dig out your French-English and Russian-English dictionaries.
You are trying way too hard. To be clear, I wasn't suggesting that the conflict was positively impacted by the call. Rather I am suggesting that the leaders of Europe being completley engaged is a positive development. They (Macron, Johnson, Steinmeier) need to own this. That is a positive development IMO.
 
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You are trying way too hard. To be clear, I wasn't suggesting that the conflict was positively impacted by the call. Rather I am suggesting that the leaders of Europe being completley engaged is a positive development. They (Macron, Johnson, Steinmeier) need to own this. That is a positive development IMO.

What a surprise, a Democrat voter absolving the people they voted for of all responsibility.
 
What a surprise, a Democrat voter absolving the people they voted for of all responsibility.
We should support Ukraine and our Eurpoean allies in just about every way they ask us to. With arms, with defensive troops in NATO countries, with intel, shit I was even joking we should be giving them drones that we surreptiously fly on their behalf. But in no way should the US be standing at the front of the room during a conversation on European security. You can try and make that partisan if you like, best wishes in doing so.
 
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Just curious as to your thoughts about what other countries should putin/russia be able to tell those citizens who or what organizations they should belong to?

No arguments on weak leadership........
I just know NATO is dogshit. Global POS (and including us in that with our leadership)

Putin told NATO NOT to push for Ukraine joining NATO- and they pushed it anyways.

NWO wants total planetary control and will stop at nothing to get it. Ukraine was NWO laundering playground for years and they're PISSED they don't have it anymore. They took our election - they will take us all down- Putin IMO is way lesser of evil.

I'm presenting the other side - it takes two to tango
 
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We should support Ukraine and our Eurpoean allies in just about every way they ask us to. With arms, with defensive troops in NATO countries, with intel, shit I was even joking we should be giving them drones that we surreptiously fly on their behalf. But in no way should the US be standing at the front of the room during a conversation on European security. You can try and make that partisan if you like, best wishes in doing so.
Isn't funny how you Democrats wash your hands of things when it turns to shit. Obama undermined the Ukrainian government to replace it with a pro-western government, knowing full well it would threaten the Russians. Biden is Obama's point man in Ukraine but instead of working to make peace he makes his family rich. Now Russia invades and it's up to the EU to handle it? SMFH. Now I'm starting to understand why the EU no longer trusts the US.
 
Isn't funny how you Democrats wash your hands of things when it turns to shit. Obama undermined the Ukrainian government to replace it with a pro-western government, knowing full well it would threaten the Russians. Biden is Obama's point man in Ukraine but instead of working to make peace he makes his family rich. Now Russia invades and it's up to the EU to handle it? SMFH. Now I'm starting to understand why the EU no longer trusts the US.
Bingo!!! Someone give this man his cigar!!
 
I just know NATO is dogshit. Global POS (and including us in that with our leadership)

Putin told NATO NOT to push for Ukraine joining NATO- and they pushed it anyways.

NWO wants total planetary control and will stop at nothing to get it. Ukraine was NWO laundering playground for years and they're PISSED they don't have it anymore. They took our election - they will take us all down- Putin IMO is way lesser of evil.

I'm presenting the other side - it takes two to tango
How many countries have you been in where NATO peacekeepers were present on the ground trying to maintain law and order?
 
I'm telling you- NATO is a global corrupt entity
You did not answer my questions. You are telling me but I'm having trouble understanding you. What is your basis of fact in claiming NATO is a global corrupt entity? Do you have personal dealings or experiences with NATO?
 
You did not answer my questions. You are telling me but I'm having trouble understanding you. What is your basis of fact in claiming NATO is a global corrupt entity? Do you have personal dealings or experiences with NATO?
Have kept Up with what has been going on there for years-I have insiders and Could tell you but would have to kill you. From the time a obama and Biden overthrew their legitimate govt in 2014 Until today- if people keep up with it people will know this is a farce what they're reporting.

I'm sorry it goes against the tv news- but even OAN is reporting on it- it's not rocket science but all you have to do is not trust the tv, question everything and the id you have any CT skills it's not hard.

 
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Have kept Up with what has been going on there for years-I have insiders and Could tell you but would have to kill you. From the time a obama and Biden overthrew their legitimate govt in 2014 Until today- if people keep up with it people will know this is a farce what they're reporting.

I'm sorry it goes against the tv news- but even OAN is reporting on it- it's not rocket science but all you have to do is not trust the tv, question everything and the id you have any CT skills it's not hard.

I kinda sensed you were full of shit but I seriously underestimated the volume and density of your shit. You are a Grade A USDA Prime Clown. Do you wear a red nose and big floppy shoes to work at the mall? You have insiders? But you would have to kill me? You are a modern day Barney Fife.
 
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I kinda sensed you were full of shit but I seriously underestimated the volume and density of your shit. You are a Grade A USDA Prime Clown. Do you wear a red nose and big floppy shoes to work at the mall? You have insiders? But you would have to kill me? You are a modern day Barney Fife.
Ooo you got me there- So creative there. Sorry the truth bombs I reign down don't flow with your love of Ukraine Globalist govt...you agreeing with Soros, Biden, Macron, Schwab, Trudeau, L Graham, Pelosi, Kerry,
Merkel, McConnel et al and the state run media.

I bet you took all their BS and injected yourself eh? Somehow they lied about all the Coof for 2 years but now are telling the truth about the Ukraine? Rriiighhhtt- Ukraine is the number one or tied being THE most Corrupt country -
PERIOD.

Sorry you buy their BS- you will learn someday...or maybe not
 
I trust you understand that the United States is literally the last government on earth with the right to criticize another nation's government for telling another country what organizations it can belong to. I understand if you personally want to take this line of approach, but surely you recognize how tone deaf it is for the US government to pretend it sits atop the moral high ground on this particular topic.

Maybe the dumbest statement you have ever made PD. "literally the last government on earth," unbeleivable......so we should fall in behind countries like Russia, China, NK, Saudi and a host of others? This is not an apples to apples comparison and that is where your belief is misguided. By virtue of sacrificing over 600k US soldiers (WWI, WWII & KOREA) we have absolutely earned the right to sit at a moral table way the hell higher then most if not every country on the planet. Do we have our warts? Does the government do amazingly stupid and unintuitive things? There is no doubt and I would never ever argue otherwise. BUT given our generosity and influence of freeing millions upon millions of people from tyranny we do what no one other country has done, we do have a moral high ground.

This is the same argument I always make when it comes to the War of Northern Aggression......to condemn so many without the benefit of living in that time, is just plain ignorant. After WWII, there was a very real threat of communist domination, so that the US gov't acted accordingly is no surprise. Hindsight tells us some of the ears were justified others weren't.

The American people, therefore to some degree the government are the most generous people on the earth. We don't fight wars to subjugate people nor consume territory, we don't sell slaves from conquered lands, our soldiers don't indiscriminately rape and pillage, our polices encourage restraint in combat (even to the detriment of individua soldiers safety) and once an area is surrender we shovel money and aid to the area. What other country does that?

The problem now and in the free worlds face is that you have no idea where the bolsheviks will stop, anyone with a nuke can now say "better sty out of our way of we'll start WWIII and any country that wants to be democratic but lies outside the treaty boundaries of something like NATO are screwed. Why would NATO not come to the aid of Ukraine, but devolve into a world war over Lithuania, a mush smaller and much less significant country then Ukraine?

Russia, a mass murdering regime for 100's of years, has absolutely no business dictating to countries what they can or cannot do. Same with China.

The US has more then enough chips on the table to sit in one of the chairs at the top of the moral ground table.
 
Maybe the dumbest statement you have ever made PD. "literally the last government on earth," unbeleivable......so we should fall in behind countries like Russia, China, NK, Saudi and a host of others? This is not an apples to apples comparison and that is where your belief is misguided. By virtue of sacrificing over 600k US soldiers (WWI, WWII & KOREA) we have absolutely earned the right to sit at a moral table way the hell higher then most if not every country on the planet. Do we have our warts? Does the government do amazingly stupid and unintuitive things? There is no doubt and I would never ever argue otherwise. BUT given our generosity and influence of freeing millions upon millions of people from tyranny we do what no one other country has done, we do have a moral high ground.

This is the same argument I always make when it comes to the War of Northern Aggression......to condemn so many without the benefit of living in that time, is just plain ignorant. After WWII, there was a very real threat of communist domination, so that the US gov't acted accordingly is no surprise. Hindsight tells us some of the ears were justified others weren't.

The American people, therefore to some degree the government are the most generous people on the earth. We don't fight wars to subjugate people nor consume territory, we don't sell slaves from conquered lands, our soldiers don't indiscriminately rape and pillage, our polices encourage restraint in combat (even to the detriment of individua soldiers safety) and once an area is surrender we shovel money and aid to the area. What other country does that?

The problem now and in the free worlds face is that you have no idea where the bolsheviks will stop, anyone with a nuke can now say "better sty out of our way of we'll start WWIII and any country that wants to be democratic but lies outside the treaty boundaries of something like NATO are screwed. Why would NATO not come to the aid of Ukraine, but devolve into a world war over Lithuania, a mush smaller and much less significant country then Ukraine?

Russia, a mass murdering regime for 100's of years, has absolutely no business dictating to countries what they can or cannot do. Same with China.

The US has more then enough chips on the table to sit in one of the chairs at the top of the moral ground table.
My reference is to the million+ lives the US government is responsible for ending this century alone as a result of its unquenchable desire to be an empire. I am NOT saying other countries have engaged in church socials, only that the US government sits high atop the list of governments in the world that have intervened in places that were none of its business. And because of that I don't think the US government has any right to condemn the actions it takes on a daily basis when another country does the same thing.
 
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My reference is to the million+ lives the US government is responsible for ending this century alone as a result of its unquenchable desire to be an empire. I am NOT saying other countries have engaged in church socials, only that the US government sits high atop the list of governments in the world that have intervened in places that were none of its business. And because of that I don't think the US government has any right to condemn the actions it takes on a daily basis when another country does the same thing.
Dan, this comes across as because I did something wrong, I can not point out something wrong. There is an illogical element to that.
 
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Dan, this comes across as because I did something wrong, I can not point out something wrong. There is an illogical element to that.
I can see what you're saying, but there is nothing illogical in saying a hypocrite is being hypocritical. The US government is being hypocritical when it condemns another government as being immoral for doing what the US government does routinely. That's the point I am stressing.
 
Ooo you got me there- So creative there. Sorry the truth bombs I reign down don't flow with your love of Ukraine Globalist govt...you agreeing with Soros, Biden, Macron, Schwab, Trudeau, L Graham, Pelosi, Kerry,
Merkel, McConnel et al and the state run media.

I bet you took all their BS and injected yourself eh? Somehow they lied about all the Coof for 2 years but now are telling the truth about the Ukraine? Rriiighhhtt- Ukraine is the number one or tied being THE most Corrupt country -
PERIOD.

Sorry you buy their BS- you will learn someday...or maybe not
Your psycho babble is tiresome. Give it a rest.
 
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