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Lots of people going to hell

When do you think human life begins?

That simply doesn’t matter...

If an 8-month-pregnant woman suffers complications ultimately necessitating an abortion to save her own life, she absolutely has that right and should.
 
That simply doesn’t matter...

If an 8-month-pregnant woman suffers complications ultimately necessitating an abortion to save her own life, she absolutely has that right and should.
While I agree with this, you know damn well this is a very low percentage of abortions.
 
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If you’re 100 percent absolutist against abortion, you’re a disgusting piece of shit. That’s my point.
I have never met anyone who believes the mother should die if there is a choice to be made. And I have hung out with the church crowd my whole life. There might be 0.00001% of the population that feels that way.
Where do you come up with these ridiculous ideas?
 
I have never met anyone who believes the mother should die if there is a choice to be made. And I have hung out with the church crowd my whole life. There might be 0.00001% of the population that feels that way.
Where do you come up with these ridiculous ideas?

Was on twitter debating with JCinOK, an osu fan, who literally said he’d disown his own daughter if she were raped and had an abortion. Thoughts?
 
Was on twitter debating with JCinOK, an osu fan, who literally said he’d disown his own daughter if she were raped and had an abortion. Thoughts?

That’s his decision to make

Just like abortion after rape is hers

You’re concerned about his decision why?
 
Do you think his decision is morally respectable?

No

But are you the arbiter of all things moral?

Disowning her is a whole hell of a lot better of a fundamental stand than how they do it in Islam.

At least he’s not taking her life

Now that is argument worthy material
 
Wait...did you just change the subject?

You asked me where I came up with these “ridiculous” ideas, and I presented you a scenario I find not just ridiculous but reprehensible. It’s why I question people if they’re absolutists on abortion, trying to find their actual breaking point to approval. He obviously is absolutely 100 percent in every way and circumstance against abortion.
 
You asked me where I came up with these “ridiculous” ideas, and I presented you a scenario I find not just ridiculous but reprehensible. It’s why I question people if they’re absolutists on abortion, trying to find their actual breaking point to approval. He obviously is absolutely 100 percent in every way and circumstance against abortion.
But who ITT are you arguing with?

You have some serious demons dude.
 
No

But are you the arbiter of all things moral?

Disowning her is a whole hell of a lot better of a fundamental stand than how they do it in Islam.

At least he’s not taking her life

There is a rather large pro-life movement in this country that wants all abortion outlawed. I actually favor abortion restrictions, but a total outlaw is clearly fvcked.
 
There is a rather large pro-life movement in this country that wants all abortion outlawed. I actually favor abortion restrictions, but a total outlaw is clearly fvcked.

I think you’re overestimating.

The vast majority imo want to outlaw abortion as a convenience but favor common sense issues like rape, medical issues, the mother’s life being at stake.

Personally, I think all women that report rape should be given the 72 hour pill at no cost.

I am a firm believer is absolutely zero convienience abortions as soon as a heart beat is established.

With that I want total reform of adoption and foster programs
 
I’m not arguing with anyone. I find the pro-life movement to be quite often counter to the very “values” they claim to stand for.
As others have said, you are finding the fringe and making the entire crowd out to be that. The vast majority of pro lifers don’t believe in 100% ban. Most, don’t want to see it as a form of birth control.
 
I think you’re overestimating.

The vast majority imo want to outlaw abortion as a convenience but favor common sense issues like rape, medical issues, the mother’s life being at stake.

Personally, I think all women that report rape should be given the 72 hour pill at no cost.

I am a firm believer is absolutely zero convienience abortions as soon as a heart beat is established.

With that I want total reform of adoption and foster programs

I would be on board with much of this, but let’s also consider “convenience abortions” and think about how many pregnancies are welfare taxpayer-funded? It happens a lot in this country.
 
As others have said, you are finding the fringe and making the entire crowd out to be that. The vast majority of pro lifers don’t believe in 100% ban. Most, don’t want to see it as a form of birth control.

Perhaps, but the pro-life movement does a really poor job of marginalizing that fringe.
 
Perhaps, but the pro-life movement does a really poor job of marginalizing that fringe.
Eh...Muslims do a shitty job of calling out extremists. The left does a shitty job calling out radical groups like BLM and Antifa. That’s because most of us work and simply just don’t give a shit.
 
You asked me where I came up with these “ridiculous” ideas, and I presented you a scenario I find not just ridiculous but reprehensible. It’s why I question people if they’re absolutists on abortion, trying to find their actual breaking point to approval. He obviously is absolutely 100 percent in every way and circumstance against abortion.
So yeah, it’s literally impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you.
 
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